Re: Summary of the ARM ports BoF at DC15

2015-09-28 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 9:02 PM, Christoph Biedl wrote: > So add me to your list. I run four Seagate DockStar (v5) and two > Raspberry Pi (v6, first generation). Although bout the latter, I was > hoping for a "arm6hf" port and used armel until then. But with more > recent Pi models AFAIK being

Re: Summary of the ARM ports BoF at DC15

2015-09-16 Thread Christoph Biedl
Steve McIntyre wrote... > First released with Lenny, supports ARMv4t & later. QNAS etc. kirkwood > & some freedombox. Toolchain and kernel support upstream are probably > never going away due to the massive number of simple ARM devices still > being made and shipped, however... Quite recently I

Re: Summary of the ARM ports BoF at DC15

2015-09-14 Thread Lucy Wayland
On Sat, Sep 12, 2015 at 03:55:38PM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: > On Fri, 2015-09-11 at 16:58 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > Does this issue go away entirely if we move from a v4t to v5 base, or > are there also v5 instructions which are (potentially) absent in v8? (I > think so, but I don't have my

Re: Summary of the ARM ports BoF at DC15

2015-09-14 Thread Wookey
+++ Paul Wise [2015-09-14 15:31 +0200]: > On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Lucy Wayland wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 12, 2015 at 03:55:38PM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: > >> On Fri, 2015-09-11 at 16:58 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > >> Does this issue go away entirely if we move from a v4t to v5 base, or

Re: Summary of the ARM ports BoF at DC15

2015-09-14 Thread Ian Campbell
On Mon, 2015-09-14 at 15:31 +0200, Paul Wise wrote: > On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Lucy Wayland wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 12, 2015 at 03:55:38PM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: > > > On Fri, 2015-09-11 at 16:58 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > > > Does this issue go away entirely if we move from a v4t

Re: Summary of the ARM ports BoF at DC15

2015-09-14 Thread Philippe Clérié
This is microATX with 2 Gbe, 210Gbe and 4 SATA III ports. : http://www.eteknix.com/latest-gigabyte-microatx-motherboard-arrives-with-octo-core-armv8-soc/ which is actually on-sale: http://www.ldlc.com/fiche/PB00191584.html But it's server kit so it's 950 EUR. Wookey Good to know that there

Re: Summary of the ARM ports BoF at DC15

2015-09-14 Thread Rob J. Epping
On September 14, 2015 12:45:03 PM GMT+02:00, JM wrote: >On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 5:58 PM, Steve McIntyre >wrote: >> >> Summary: if people care about armel for Stretch, they should make >> noise NOW and convince people it's needed and can/should be supported

Re: Summary of the ARM ports BoF at DC15

2015-09-14 Thread Nagel, Peter (IFP)
Although I'm quite new to Linux I was able to setup jessy on a new QNAP TS-420U (... many thanks to tbm and the list) and it would be great if kirkwood devices would get support also in the future. If (for whatever reason) this is not possible ... I hope that (at least) some kind of LTS will

Re: Summary of the ARM ports BoF at DC15

2015-09-14 Thread Björn Wetterbom
On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 5:58 PM, Steve McIntyre wrote: > Summary: if people care about armel for Stretch, they should make > noise NOW and convince people it's needed and can/should be supported > in future. > I'd hate to see my two QNAP NAS:es unsupported. Setting them up

Re: Summary of the ARM ports BoF at DC15

2015-09-13 Thread Ian Campbell
On Sat, 2015-09-12 at 23:26 +0100, Wookey wrote: > +++ Ian Campbell [2015-09-12 15:55 +0100]: > > > The other two subarches in the kernel are orion5x and versatile. I > have > > no personal interest in either. My gut suggests that orion5x (the > > Marvell variant prior to kirkwood) is the one

Re: Summary of the ARM ports BoF at DC15

2015-09-13 Thread Philippe Clérié
On 09/11/2015 11:58 AM, Steve McIntyre wrote: Summary: if people care about armel for Stretch, they should make noise NOW and convince people it's needed and can/should be supported in future. Thanks for that post. Very timely, as I was about to recommend some QNAP hardware because of armel

Re: Summary of the ARM ports BoF at DC15

2015-09-13 Thread Wookey
+++ Philippe Clérié [2015-09-13 20:14 -0400]: > On 09/11/2015 11:58 AM, Steve McIntyre wrote: > > >Summary: if people care about armel for Stretch, they should make > >noise NOW and convince people it's needed and can/should be supported > >in future. > > > > Thanks for that post. Very timely,

Re: Summary of the ARM ports BoF at DC15

2015-09-12 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
At Fri, 11 Sep 2015 16:58:42 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > Summary: if people care about armel for Stretch, they should make > noise NOW and convince people it's needed and can/should be supported > in future. I think it would be a pity if we wouldn't support kirkwoord devices such as those QNAP

Re: Summary of the ARM ports BoF at DC15

2015-09-12 Thread Wookey
+++ Ian Campbell [2015-09-12 15:55 +0100]: > The other two subarches in the kernel are orion5x and versatile. I have > no personal interest in either. My gut suggests that orion5x (the > Marvell variant prior to kirkwood) is the one people might more > plausibly still be interested in, but I

Re: Summary of the ARM ports BoF at DC15

2015-09-12 Thread Ian Campbell
On Fri, 2015-09-11 at 16:58 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > armel > = > > [...] > Known worries/issues: > > * Kernel size due to very restrictive flash space; has been a >problem, but not believed to be affecting current users so much >now. Several problematic sub-arches have been

Summary of the ARM ports BoF at DC15

2015-09-11 Thread Steve McIntyre
[ Please note the cross-post and Reply-To ] Hi folks, As promised, here's a quick summary of what was discussed at the BoF session in Heidelberg. Apologies for the delay - it takes a while to write these up, especially when struck down with the traditional post-DebConf plague. :-( Thanks to the