Re: latency test results for armhf vs arm64?

2022-07-16 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Sat, Jul 16, 2022 at 08:35:26PM +0200, Diederik de Haas wrote: > Raspbian(.org) was created by Peter Green (plugwash) (and Mike Thompson who's > name is still attached to raspbian(.org)'s GPG key, but otherwise moved on) > precisely because the RPi 1 did not meet the armhf/armv7

Re: latency test results for armhf vs arm64?

2022-07-16 Thread Diederik de Haas
On Saturday, 16 July 2022 18:19:31 CEST gene heskett wrote: > > You said raspios which sure looks like raspian. Raspian/Raspberry Pi > > OS is armv6. If you are running Debian armhf, then it is armv7 but it > > would be a lot less confusing to call it Debian and not raspios in > > that case. >

Re: latency test results for armhf vs arm64?

2022-07-16 Thread Matthias Klein
> Am 16.07.2022 um 18:02 schrieb gene heskett : > > I've not been > able to find another kernel src any newer that even admits to having a > realtime preempt in its config, it is conspicuously absent in anything > newer, and I am subbed to linux-rt so I see all the new stuff being > announced.

Re: latency test results for armhf vs arm64?

2022-07-16 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Sat, Jul 16, 2022 at 12:19:31PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > raspian/raspios is available in all 3 flavors. Oh right they do have the other ones, they are just not the ones they recommend by default. > True, but when those two seagate 2T drives puked in quick succession, I lost > all > my

Re: latency test results for armhf vs arm64?

2022-07-16 Thread gene heskett
On 7/16/22 11:32, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Sat, Jul 16, 2022 at 08:41:07AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: I wish you would admit that the raspios I am running IS armhf (kernel7l) I've no clue where you got the impression it was v6. It is not. You said raspios which sure looks like raspian.

Re: latency test results for armhf vs arm64?

2022-07-16 Thread gene heskett
On 7/16/22 10:33, Arnd Bergmann wrote: On Sat, Jul 16, 2022 at 2:41 PM gene heskett wrote: On 7/16/22 08:10, Arnd Bergmann wrote: - 4.19 is four years old, and both the mainline kernel and the preempt-rt patches have changed a lot in the meantime. It's possible that a current

Re: latency test results for armhf vs arm64?

2022-07-16 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Sat, Jul 16, 2022 at 08:41:07AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > I wish you would admit that the raspios I am running IS armhf (kernel7l) > I've no clue where you got the impression it was v6. It is not. You said raspios which sure looks like raspian. Raspian/Raspberry Pi OS is armv6. If you are

Re: latency test results for armhf vs arm64?

2022-07-16 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Sat, Jul 16, 2022 at 2:41 PM gene heskett wrote: > On 7/16/22 08:10, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > > > > - 4.19 is four years old, and both the mainline kernel and the > >preempt-rt patches have changed a lot in the meantime. It's > >possible that a current preempt-rt has regressed compared

Re: latency test results for armhf vs arm64?

2022-07-16 Thread gene heskett
On 7/16/22 08:10, Arnd Bergmann wrote: On Sat, Jul 16, 2022 at 5:05 AM gene heskett wrote: On 7/15/22 21:54, Paul Wise wrote: On Fri, 2022-07-15 at 13:40 -0400, gene heskett wrote: Because our latency-test results are better on armhf than on arm64, we use armhf for its performance. Are

Re: latency test results for armhf vs arm64?

2022-07-16 Thread gene heskett
On 7/16/22 05:59, Paul Wise wrote: On Fri, 2022-07-15 at 23:05 -0400, gene heskett wrote: The whole install of raspios is armhf. So I guess its yes. I seem to remember them switching to arm64 recently? They may have, I've had a total loss of history here with 2, 2T seagate drives dieing

Re: latency test results for armhf vs arm64?

2022-07-16 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Sat, Jul 16, 2022 at 5:05 AM gene heskett wrote: > On 7/15/22 21:54, Paul Wise wrote: > > On Fri, 2022-07-15 at 13:40 -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > > >> Because our latency-test results are better on armhf than on arm64, > >> we use armhf for its performance. > > Are these results for armhf

Re: latency test results for armhf vs arm64?

2022-07-16 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, 2022-07-15 at 23:05 -0400, gene heskett wrote: > The whole install of raspios is armhf. So I guess its yes. I seem to remember them switching to arm64 recently? > I have not tried to build an aarch64 from the src I have. I think it would be helpful if someone with an RPi4 could do

Re: latency test results for armhf vs arm64?

2022-07-15 Thread gene heskett
On 7/15/22 21:54, Paul Wise wrote: On Fri, 2022-07-15 at 13:40 -0400, gene heskett wrote: Because our latency-test results are better on armhf than on arm64, we use armhf for its performance. Are these results for armhf kernel with armhf userland? The whole install of raspios is armhf. So I

latency test results for armhf vs arm64?

2022-07-15 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, 2022-07-15 at 13:40 -0400, gene heskett wrote: > Because our latency-test results are better on armhf than on arm64, > we use armhf for its performance. Are these results for armhf kernel with armhf userland? Are the results for arm64 kernel with armhf userland similar? How much worse