Re: Dropping support for the smallest armel machines

2013-06-26 Thread Martin Guy
+1 for maintaining iop32xx support. I bought and use one for debian development and offer it as a service to open-source developers. Keeping it running with standard stable and sid is essential to this. I also remember nslu2 being the whizzo machine for hackers On 25 June 2013 04:05, Chris

Re: Dropping support for the smallest armel machines

2013-06-26 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Martin Guy wrote: +1 for maintaining iop32xx support. I bought and use one for debian development and offer it as a service to open-source developers. Keeping it running with standard stable and sid is essential to this. I also remember nslu2 being the whizzo machine for hackers Has anybody

Re: Using /usr/lib/gcc-cross/ for triples

2013-06-26 Thread Stephen Kelly
On 06/19/2013 06:49 PM, Wookey wrote: +++ Stephen Kelly [2013-06-19 15:48 +0200]: Hi there, In attempting to use clang as a cross compiler, clang needed to be able to find some c runtime files etc which are part of gcc it seems. However, clang only looks in /usr/lib/gcc/$$TRIPLE for such

Re: Dropping support for the smallest armel machines

2013-06-26 Thread Björn Wetterbom
Dropping support for nslu2 is fine with me. As noted above, I can continue running it with an older kernel and be equally happy. Or I could retire it and get (another) rpi. What would be (a little) worse for me though is dropping orion5 support. I rely on security updates for my ts-209. OTOH, by

Re: Dropping support for the smallest armel machines

2013-06-26 Thread Loïc Minier
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: Has anybody investigated using something like OpenFirmware as an intermediate boot loader? If that were in internal Flash then it should be possible to load the kernel from external storage- Yeah; I didn't have time to try it out, but there's also

Re: Dropping support for the smallest armel machines

2013-06-26 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 02:08:19PM +0200, Loïc Minier wrote: On Wed, Jun 26, 2013, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: Has anybody investigated using something like OpenFirmware as an intermediate boot loader? If that were in internal Flash then it should be possible to load the kernel from external

Re: Dropping support for the smallest armel machines

2013-06-26 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Björn Wetterbom bj...@wetterbom.se [2013-06-26 13:28]: What would be (a little) worse for me though is dropping orion5 support. I rely on security updates for my ts-209. OTOH, by 2016 it may well be ready to be replaced by something faster. Ben didn't propose dropping Orion altogether -- it

Re: Dropping support for the smallest armel machines

2013-06-26 Thread Rtp
Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk writes: We have a recurring problem with building kernels for armel: three flavours (iop32x, ixp4xx, orion5x) require the kernel image size to be less than 1.4-1.5 MB in order to fit into a fixed flash partition. As more features continue to be added to

Re: Dropping support for the smallest armel machines

2013-06-26 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 03:13:48PM +0200, Arnaud Patard wrote: Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk writes: We have a recurring problem with building kernels for armel: three flavours (iop32x, ixp4xx, orion5x) require the kernel image size to be less than 1.4-1.5 MB in order to fit into a