Re: Y2038 - best way forward in Debian?

2020-02-04 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Feb 04, 2020 at 11:03:03AM -0500, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > On Tue, Feb 04, 2020 at 09:38:46AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > * 32-bit ABIs/arches are more awkward. glibc will continue *by > > >default* to use 32-bit time_t to keep compatibility with existing > > >code. This

Re: Y2038 - best way forward in Debian?

2020-02-04 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, 2020-02-04 at 11:03 -0500, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > On Tue, Feb 04, 2020 at 09:38:46AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > * 32-bit ABIs/arches are more awkward. glibc will continue *by > > >default* to use 32-bit time_t to keep compatibility with existing > > >code. This will

Re: Y2038 - best way forward in Debian?

2020-02-04 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Tue, 2020-02-04 at 13:14:10 +, Steve McIntyre wrote: > The glibc folks have taken an interesting approach. > > * 64-bit ABIs/architectures are already using 64-bit time_t >throughout. The design is sane and so we should already be mostly >safe here, modulo silly code bugs

Re: Y2038 - best way forward in Debian?

2020-02-04 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Feb 04, 2020 at 09:38:46AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > * 32-bit ABIs/arches are more awkward. glibc will continue *by > >default* to use 32-bit time_t to keep compatibility with existing > >code. This will *not* be safe as we approach 2038. > > > > * 32-bit ABIs/arches *can*

Re: Armbian

2020-02-04 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, Feb 03, 2020 at 09:46:09PM +0100, Andreas Jellinghaus wrote: > I wrote the guide for OdroidHC1, happy to answer any questions. Thank you for your work. I used that page as a template for two successful HC2 Debian installations. > Also the blobs required to boot the device

Re: Y2038 - best way forward in Debian?

2020-02-04 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Feb 04, Steve McIntyre wrote: >We'd need to decide exactly which of our 32-bit ports we would want >to do this path with (probably armhf->arhmft?, maybe >armel->armelt?, i386->i386t?. mipsel???). Due to the libc6 soname I agree with Ansgar here: there is no point in rebuilding

Re: Y2038 - best way forward in Debian?

2020-02-04 Thread Stefan Monnier
> * 32-bit ABIs/arches are more awkward. glibc will continue *by >default* to use 32-bit time_t to keep compatibility with existing >code. This will *not* be safe as we approach 2038. > > * 32-bit ABIs/arches *can* be told to use 64-bit time_t from glibc >upwards, but this will of

Re: Y2038 - best way forward in Debian?

2020-02-04 Thread Ansgar
On Tue, 2020-02-04 at 13:14 +, Steve McIntyre wrote: > What do people think here? Which do you think is the better path? Feel > free to point out things you think I may have missed. We should get > started on this soon - the longer we leave it, the more likely it is > that we'll see 2038 bugs

Y2038 - best way forward in Debian?

2020-02-04 Thread Steve McIntyre
Hey folks, Apologies - I should have sent this mail quite a while back. :-/ Arnd Bergmann (in CC) has been helping to drive a lot of work to solve the 2038 problem in the Linux world. I've spoken about this before, e.g. at DebConf17. He's been pushing a lot of updates throughout the Linux

Re: arm64-net-install buster 10.2

2020-02-04 Thread Pete Batard
Hi Paul, On 2020.02.04 03:09, Paul Wise wrote: Is there a plan to package edk2-platforms for Debian? Not that I know of. We already have an edk2 package, but it only supports x86/ARM virtual machines. It would be nice to have open UEFI firmware for ARM platforms available in Debian. You

Re: Armbian

2020-02-04 Thread deloptes
Uwe Kleine-König wrote: > I don't know the capabilities of the vendor U-Boot, but I already > installed Debian successfully on some machines by just starting the > installer via tftp. unfortunately tftp and usb boot are not (yet) officially working on RPI 4

Re: Armbian

2020-02-04 Thread Uwe Kleine-König
Hello, On 2/3/20 9:46 PM, Andreas Jellinghaus wrote: > The debian installer sounds great in theory, but in practice you install > from one medium to a second medium. But with the device I have there is > just a single medium: the sdcard I enter. I don't know the capabilities of the vendor