Re: Does anyone recommend the Smart Book from Always Innovating

2011-11-13 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, 2011/11/13 Goswin von Brederlow : > I'm considering buying a Smart Book from Always Innovating [1]: > >    *  1GHz ARM cortex-A8 DM3730 with video and 3D acceleration >    * Numonyx 512MB RAM + 256 MB NAND >    * 8GB microSD card >    * 1024x600 8.9" capacitive touchscreen >    ... > > Doe

Re: Bug#635126: status of ruby 1.9.1 wrt porting

2011-12-02 Thread Hector Oron
Hello Lennart, On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 10:08:29AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 11:48:34PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > Ruby 1.9.3 is going to be released in september, and is a candidate for > > the default ruby version in wheezy. A snapshot is available in > > expe

Re: Bug#635126: status of ruby 1.9.1 wrt porting

2011-12-05 Thread Hector Oron
Hello Lennart, 2011/12/5 Lennart Sorensen : > I tried adding armhf to the list of archs needing -fno-tree-sra, and it > made no difference at all.  Exact same crash in the same place. Yes, that matches my tests. Thanks very much for trying. --  Héctor Orón  -.. . -... .. .- -.   -.. . ...- . .

Re: debian-installer -> cross-compile to armel?

2011-12-14 Thread Hector Oron
tached [2]. Then, we wanted to talk to you about getting this stuff into mainline vs your work. Solving this blocker, getting official debian-installer support should be doable, so any work towards adding dreamplug into mainline kernel is welcome. [1] dreamplug.patch [2] u-boot.patch Cheers, -- He

Re: python-enchant is not importable in python 2.6 on armhf. Any idea which package is at fault?

2011-12-25 Thread Hector Oron
Hello Peter, 2011/12/25 peter green : > While investigating the build failure of scim-python on armhf I discovered > that importing enchant with python 2.6 fails on armhf > > root@debian:/# python2.6 -c "import enchant" > Traceback (most recent call last): >  File "", line 1, in >  File "/usr/lib

Re: python-enchant is not importable in python 2.6 on armhf. Any idea which package is at fault?

2011-12-25 Thread Hector Oron
Hello again, 2011/12/25 peter green : > While investigating the build failure of scim-python on armhf I discovered > that importing enchant with python 2.6 fails on armhf > > root@debian:/# python2.6 -c "import enchant" > Traceback (most recent call last): >  File "", line 1, in >  File "/usr/lib

Re: python-enchant is not importable in python 2.6 on armhf. Any idea which package is at fault?

2011-12-25 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, 2011/12/25 peter green : > So would the reasonable thing to do be to binnmu it and see if the problem > goes away? Done and problem does not go away, but installing `libenchant-dev' makes the error go away. It looks like to me that `scim-python' build-deps are missing `libenchant-dev', w

Re: winff fails to build on Armel: unit path of lazarus points to 0.9.30 i.s.o. 0.9.30.2

2012-01-18 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, 2012/1/14 Paul Gevers : > So basically my questions are: > Abou: 1) Where do the the paths get set for the units, as I believe I > don't set them in my package (as on all other architectures there are no > problems at all). > Abou: 2) Do you have any idea how to solve this problem (in Lazar

Re: Bug#649912: eclipse 3.7.1 armel - build success

2012-02-02 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, 2012/2/2 Niels Thykier : > We would like to try a build of eclipse on arm{el,hf}.  However, it may > require a kernel upgrade on the buildds[1].  As far as I can tell, > linux-2.6/3.2.1-1 carries those patches[2]. We are aware of it, build daemons are not yet ready, we will proceed with i

Re: Wanted: superstar hacker to complete Mono port to armhf

2012-02-02 Thread Hector Oron
Hello Jo, I am forwarding the message to a couple mailing lists which might have people interested on the Mono porting for ARM hard-float ABI. 2012/2/2 Jo Shields : > Right now, Mono is available in Debian armhf. This is a hack - what > we're actually doing is building Mono as an armhf binary, bu

Re: armhf installer?

2012-02-10 Thread Hector Oron
Hello Peter, 2012/2/9 peter green : > E: Unable to locate package kernel-image-3.1.0-1-mx5-di > E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'kernel-image-3.1.0-1-mx5-di' > Are the errors i'm seeing just caused by ongoing kernel transitions in sid > or are they indicative of a bigger problem? That's mo

Re: [kbibtex] FTBS on armel

2012-02-16 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, 2012/2/16 Bastien ROUCARIES : > Any news of this bug It has not been fixed. It is reproducible on porterbox with latest software versions in SID. [ 53%] Building CXX object src/gui/CMakeFiles/kbibtexgui.dir/kbibtexgui_automoc.o cd /home/zumbi/kbibtex-0.4/obj-arm-linux-gnueabi/src/gui && /

Re: Bug#649912: eclipse 3.7.1 armel - build success

2012-02-23 Thread Hector Oron
e, as I see openjdk-7 is built for armel, while there are some installability brokeness with openjdk-6 on armel. Also armel kernel has not yet been upgraded. Regards, -- Hector Oron -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe".

Re: ARM kernel cross compilation issues for iMX53

2012-03-26 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, 2012/3/25 Lennart Sorensen : > On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 04:13:22PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: >> They're fine for us. I started using the Freescale 2.6.35 kernel, then >> moved over to mainline with 3.2.0. Networking and SATA work fine >> there, but USB is still not quite there yet... > A

Re: armel v4t vs v5

2012-04-19 Thread Hector Oron
Hi, 2012/4/18 Wookey : > +++ Martin Guy [2012-04-18 14:30 +0200]: >> On 17 April 2012 18:36, Wookey wrote: >> > debian armel is currently >> > built for v4t but is likely to move forward to v5 at some point. >> >> -1 as we have and others have products that are arm4vt and that ship >> with Debian

Re: Making an armhf kernel package.

2012-05-09 Thread Hector Oron
Hi, 2012/5/9 Arnaud Patard : > "Paul Kench" writes: >> When I try and build a debian packaged kernel/modules with the deb-pkg >> target, the package builds but it builds an armel package that complains >> around architecture when trying to install. I am building natively on the >> Mele. > deb-p

Re: armel *and* armhf qualification for Wheezy

2012-05-18 Thread Hector Oron
t;>as would any other information you think is relevant to helping us >>determine armel's status for the release. > Currently each has only 3 porters listed: > >  * Riku Voipio, Wookey, Colin Tuckley >  * Steve McIntyre, Julian Andres Klode, Hector Oron I think Kons

Re: armel qualification for Wheezy

2012-05-19 Thread Hector Oron
Hello Luk, 2012/5/19 Luk Claes : > As everyone keeps claiming there is no armel buildd location redundancy, > I don't have much motivation to keep ancina running. It's ignored anyway. I sent you an email about it as well, ancina is doing d-i armel builds and currently armel is lagging a bit behi

Re: __aeabi_unwind_cpp_pr1@GCC_3.5

2012-06-11 Thread Hector Oron
Hello Bernhard, 2012/6/8 Bernhard R. Link : > A large number of packages (I guess around 800-900) > generates the following warning on armel and armhf at build time: > > dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: symbol __aeabi_unwind_cpp_pr1@GCC_3.5 used by > FILENAME found in none of the libraries. > > and/or the

Re: How to install Debian on MCIMX53-START-R

2012-07-07 Thread Hector Oron
Hi Gregor, 2012/7/6 Gregor Jasny : > Thank you for this hint. I was able to build an image and dd'ed it to the > micro SD card. On the serial console I could watch the boot process but > noticed some warnings and errors: > > [1.248177] > /build/buildd-linux_3.2.21-3-armhf-ki0aTS/linux-3.2.21/

Re: Add new armhf flavor armada370xp

2013-03-07 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, 2013/3/7 Arnaud Patard : > Steve McIntyre writes: >> On Thu, Mar 07, 2013 at 09:27:42AM +0200, Riku Voipio wrote: >>>I hope we could be more ambitious and enter the single zImage / >>>multiplatform setup early. We could start by simply calling the >>>armada370 / armadaxp flavour "multipla

Re: Bug#703209: linux: Please Add multiplatform flavour to armhf

2013-04-08 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, 2013/4/2 Nobuhiro Iwamatsu : > Then, the two candidates have come armmp and armv7. > Which do you like? > if there is no other opinions, I would want to decide on armmp. armmp ++ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? C

Re: Donation of a Calxeda Highbank node

2013-04-26 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, 2013/4/12 Raphael Hertzog : > OffensiveSecurity owns a Calxeda Highbank cluster of ARM machines[1] and is > willing to dedicate one of the nodes to Debian. Thanks, that is a very kind offer and with ARM hat on, we cannot reject the offer, it makes it very interesting as a playground machi

Re: Donation of a Calxeda Highbank node

2013-04-29 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, 2013/4/26 Raphael Hertzog : > On Fri, 26 Apr 2013, Hector Oron wrote: >> * DSA hat: The machine shall not be a debian.org machine, so DSA could >> export accounts if requested. >> * Buildd hat: The machine shall not be used to run buildd software to >> build of

ipa.debian.net: new armhf and armel porterbox

2013-05-18 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, Please find publicly available ipa.debian.net, a Calxeda Highbank Quad Core Cortex-A9 with 4GB RAM node donated to Debian by Offensive Security. The machine node is available to all Debian Developers. Find available instructions on how to use porter chroots in message of the day (motd).

Re: Debian Wheezy, u-boot and armhf installation

2013-05-18 Thread Hector Oron
Hello Paul, 2013/5/12 Paul MARCHAND : > I've got an efika MX running a version of wheezy built by genesi, i > would like to switch on the original debian. By the way i would like to > encrypt my disk (the rootfs) > > I'm asking me how can i do it ? > I found some initrd and uimage on the mirrors.

Raspbian checks and question for Jessie

2013-05-30 Thread Hector Oron
Hello Peter, I have been trying to find a reference on which checks runs Raspbian on binaries to verify those are properly built for armv6hf. Also, I think I have already asked you such question, could you please remind me about those? Regarding Raspbian for Jessie, would it be nice to add a

Re: Donation of a Calxeda Highbank node

2013-06-27 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, 2013/6/27 Luca Filipozzi : > On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 07:27:54PM +, David Power wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 09:56:51AM +0300, Riku Voipio wrote: >> > My main concern is that having a single node as buildd without another >> > for development purposes means that we don't have easy

Re: Dropping support for the smallest armel machines

2013-06-27 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, 2013/6/27 Ben Hutchings : > On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 04:39:15PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 03:13:48PM +0200, Arnaud Patard wrote: >> > Ben Hutchings writes: >> > btw, iop32x is used on n2100 which are used on buildd/porter boxes. If >> > we stop supporting it, I

Building armhf/armel in same machines (was Re: Dropping support for the smallest armel machines)

2013-07-11 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, 2013/7/5 Ansgar Burchardt : > [ Please CC me in replies. I'm not subscribed to the list. ] > On 06/27/2013 19:22, Ben Hutchings wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 04:39:15PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: >>> Bet they're slower than QEMU versatile emulation on an x86. And DSA >>> loves virtu

Re: ipa.debian.net: new armhf and armel porterbox

2013-08-10 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, > < https://db.debian.org/machines.cgi?host=ipa > The machine shall be down for few days, while we do maintenance works on it. Regards, -- Héctor Orón -.. . -... .. .- -. -.. . ...- . .-.. --- .--. . .-. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subje

Re: linaro ld works, but debian ld does not

2013-08-12 Thread Hector Oron
Hello Stephen, 2013/8/9 Stephen Kelly : > After compiling a file I can attempt to link it while passing a --sysroot > argument. With my linaro ld, this works, but not with my debian ld (can not > find libc.so.6): Debian does not provide cross-ld. Could you please tell where did you get your cros

Re: Removing armel from the list of arches we build for

2013-08-21 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, 2013/8/21 Joey Hess : > Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: >> armel has been one of the sore points of maintaining WebKit in Debian. >> It often fails to build the package because of lack of memory or disk >> space. I'm told by my colleague Hector Oron that WebKit

ARM Sprint (Re: Arm bof and raspbian.)

2013-08-21 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, 2013/8/17 Wookey : > +++ peter green [2013-08-16 11:53 +0100]: >> Finally it's not strictly related to anything else mentioned here >> but someone mentioned a mini-debconf in cambridge, can anyone tell >> me where I can find more details. > https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/Miniconf-UK/2013 >

Re: Removing armel from the list of arches we build for

2013-08-22 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, 2013/8/22 Loïc Minier : > FWIW, the Calxeda boxes are armhf and armel capable and make a massive > difference in buildd performance (good SATA I/O, 4G of RAM, SMP); these > aren't exactly cheap (yet?), but I definitely wish Debian armel and > armhf builds all eventually move to server clas

Re: ARM Sprint (Re: Arm bof and raspbian.)

2013-08-25 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, 2013/8/24 Jeremiah C. Foster : > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 04:01:06AM +0200, Hector Oron wrote: >> Source (org-mode): >> < http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=users/zumbi/debian-org.git > >> < git://anonscm.debian.org/users/zumbi/debian-org.git > >

Re: [PATCH 1/2] deb-pkg: Add automatic support for armhf architecture

2013-10-07 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, 2013/10/6 Ben Hutchings : > The Debian armhf architecture uses the ARM EABI hard-float variant, > whereas armel uses the soft-float variant. Although the kernel > doesn't use FP itself, CONFIG_VFP must be enabled to support > hard-float userland and will probably be disabled when supportin

Re: [PATCH 1/2] deb-pkg: Add automatic support for armhf architecture

2013-10-24 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, 2013/10/13 Ben Hutchings : > On Tue, 2013-10-08 at 02:23 +0200, Hector Oron wrote: >> Hello, >> >> 2013/10/6 Ben Hutchings : >> > The Debian armhf architecture uses the ARM EABI hard-float variant, >> > whereas armel uses the soft-float variant.

Re: armhf d-i switched to armmp only, no armhf daily builds happening? (Was: Re: Uploading linux (3.11.5-1))

2013-10-24 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, 2013/10/20 Cyril Brulebois : > Ian Campbell (2013-10-19): [...] > I'm not sure about ancina, but at least hasse had disc issues. Not sure > what the status is, but the right contact would usually be $arch@buildd, > added. Thanks for heads-up! I'll have a look during this week. Cheers, --

Re: Dropping valgrind from armel?

2013-10-24 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, 2013/10/24 Alessandro Ghedini : > Hence the idea: what about dropping valgrind from armel? Or alternatively, is > there anyone who cares about valgrind on armel and wants to debug and try to > fix this (possibly without making the original kinda ugly hack any worse)? If interested, also c

Re: Proposal to replace/extend current armhf builders

2013-11-15 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, 2013/11/15 Konstantinos Margaritis : > Riku Voipio wrote: >> Wearing my armel buildd maintainer hat, I don't feel the same urgency >> as you seem to have - perhaps that's because the armel buildd'd are >> less ram-starved than the locos? > > Yeah, you're spoiled, iirc, one buildd has 3GB

Re: Further trimming of ARM NAS kernel images

2013-11-15 Thread Hector Oron
Hello Ben, 2013/11/11 Ben Hutchings : > As the Linux kernel has continued to grow, in Linux 3.12 the iop32x and > ixp4xx kernel images have again exceeded the size limits for the target > machines. > > [Note, all figures here are based on the emdebian gcc-4.7 cross-compiler > whereas we'll actuall

Re: Proposal to replace/extend current armhf builders

2013-11-15 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, 2013/11/15 Konstantinos Margaritis : >> On the other side of things, Boston guys are aware of our interests >> and they need to do some internal discussion and maybe allocate some >> budget for special price or donation, I'll come back with more once >> they let us know. Also, it appears t

Bits from ARM porters

2013-12-02 Thread Hector Oron
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hello, Find below some bits collected while ARM sprint in Cambridge, UK. < http://titanpad.com/debian-arm > If you would like further information or discussion on any of the topics, please follow up at debian-arm or any relevant mailing list

Bits from ARM porters

2013-12-02 Thread Hector Oron
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hello, (Re-sending with appropriate charset) Find below some bits collected while ARM sprint in Cambridge, UK. < https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/Miniconf-UK/2013 > If you would like further information or discussion on any of the topics, pl

Re: Bits from ARM porters

2013-12-03 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, 2013/12/3 Aurelien Jarno : > On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 12:43:36AM +0100, Hector Oron wrote: >> 5.2 Setup arm64 debian-ports >> >> >> ⁃ arm64 setup as new bootstrapping port >> ⁃ manual builds could be uploaded but pos

Re: Bits from ARM porters

2013-12-03 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, 2013/12/3 Dmitrijs Ledkovs : > On 2 December 2013 23:08, Hector Oron wrote: >> 5 arm64 Debian port support >> ═══ >> >> If Debian is unable to find ARM 64-bit hardware before Jessie gets >> frozen, it likely won't be

Re: Proposed changes to installer for armhf

2014-04-29 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, 2014-04-28 12:26 GMT+02:00 Ian Campbell : > On Fri, 2014-04-25 at 19:06 +0200, Karsten Merker wrote: >> On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 08:42:23AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: >> > Aside: "EfikaMX" is listed in 2.1.2.4 as no longer supported, but we do >> > supply a specific image for it using the a

Re: Updating the installation guide, arm platform support

2014-04-29 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, 2014-03-20 19:26 GMT+01:00 Karsten Merker : [...] > This is the commit that has removed the code: > > commit c7c29b3aeb318b9efe3035cacf42800dfe2970f5 > Author: Matt Sealey > Date: Wed Aug 1 12:49:30 2012 -0500 > > ARM: efikamx: remove Genesi Efika MX platform files from the t

Re: debootstrap hangs at libc6.postinst

2008-06-01 Thread Hector Oron
Hi! When you are not running on SysV Init based system, glibc does not behave as expected. 2008/6/2 Olaf Lüke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hallo, > > Im trying to get eabi debian running on a small single board computer > based on an xscale pxa270. I can allready boot a minimal initramfs with > busybox

Re: debootstrap hangs at libc6.postinst

2008-06-02 Thread Hector Oron
Hello Olaf, Check postinst file and look for Black magic... that is the problem. If you solve it, please tell on list. Cheers 2008/6/2 Olaf Lüke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> try running >> >> sh -x /var/lib/dpkg/info/libc6.postinst configure >> >> to see the exact command getting stuck. > > It look

Re: debootstrap hangs at libc6.postinst

2008-06-03 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, Neil Williams (codehelp) has already work arround it, here a fwd: message, The error is that sysvinitver is undefined but the black magic fails to take account of this possibility because sysvinit "will always exist" for Debian. --- debhelper.in/libc.p

Re: gdb package cannot install?

2009-02-22 Thread Hector Oron
21:58 < drasko> still same message 22:00 < zumbi> dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/gdb-arm-linux-gnu_6.8-3_i386.deb 22:01 < drasko> Great! 22:02 < drasko> Thanks a lot, lesson learned 2009/2/22 Drasko DRASKOVIC : > Marx:/home/drasko# apt-get install gdb-arm-linux-gn

Re: gdb package cannot install?

2009-02-23 Thread Hector Oron
> Not a great solution. The real solution is that gdb should be taught > to rename the man page or leave it out entirely when building a cross > gdb package. This "bug" has been around for years though. This solution was a quick work arround, but should we fill a bug against gdb package? or is i

Re: update-passwd problem with debian system?

2009-02-26 Thread Hector Oron
> Setting up base-passwd (3.5.20) ... > > /scratchbox/tools/bin/misc_runner: SBOX_CPUTRANSPARENCY_METHOD not set [ .. ] > I did not set up cpu transparency method because I did not need it. > Could that be the reason? Are you using Scratchbox? It uses cpu transparency. Kind r

[SheevaPlug] Order not received

2009-04-07 Thread Hector Oron
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Re: Installing debian on ARM board

2009-04-22 Thread Hector Oron
Hi, > I am new to this so I might be asking something very simple. But I do > need your help. > I have an ARM based board AT91SAM9263-EK and I want to run Debian on it. > I am running U-Boot 2009.03. > What options do I have for installation. I don't have a CD-ROM interface > or Hard disk on it wh

Re: Installing debian on ARM board

2009-04-22 Thread Hector Oron
Hi, > I will love to tftp but my ARM target board is connected to a machine > running windows XP and running Debian 5.0 in a VMware player. Do you > think I can still boot from tftp? I do have tftp set up on both windows > and Debian and can transfer files between them but not sure if Debian in > V

Re: [SheevaPlug] Order not received (SOLVED)

2009-04-23 Thread Hector Oron
Hi all, After more than a month, I finally got the desired toy. :-) Cheers -- Héctor Orón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Debian 5.0 (lenny) tar ball for the SheevaPlug - USB install

2009-05-06 Thread Hector Oron
Hi Martin, Thanks for all the work you and others do. I just wanted to comment some wishlist points if you get back to the sheevaplug soon: * Add support to u-boot so it can boot kernel from SD [1] * Try out emdebian grip rootfs (half smaller than Debian one) [2] * Try out recent egl

Re: Debian 5.0 (lenny) tar ball for the SheevaPlug - USB install

2009-05-06 Thread Hector Oron
Hi, 2009/5/6 Martin Michlmayr : >>   *  Try out emdebian grip rootfs (half smaller than Debian one) [2] > > I don't know anything about emdebian.  Maybe that's something you can > help out with. Sure. FYI, emdebian in its grip form it is just Debian stripped, it is also Debian compatible. In ord

Re: arm port plans for the squeeze cycle

2009-08-19 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, 2009/8/19 Riku Voipio : > I'd like to throw the ball back to our ARM port users - what are missing > from Debian ARM port? I am missing an optimized eglibc for small systems (for example, -Os), i have commented such thing to debian-eglibc people (aurel) and he asked for porters providing b

Re: Problems building glibc/eglibc

2009-08-25 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, 2009/8/25 Lluís Batlle : > How should I build glibc or eglibc? Can I check the build scripts for > debian's glibc somewhere? $ apt-get source eglibc will give you the source and you can check build scripts in there. For the build logs[1] or you can try upstream recommendations[2][3] [

Re: Bootstrapping gcc and then (if I could) glibc

2009-08-27 Thread Hector Oron
Hello friendly Lluís, 2009/8/27 Lluís Batlle : > I'm trying to bootstrap a gcc+glibc in arm, in a Sheevaplug, and I'm > encountering a problem I don't know how to fix. I'll study the CLFS for arm > better, maybe that gives some clues, but here is what I find. First of all, i let you know I am als

Re: Bootstrapping gcc and then (if I could) glibc

2009-08-27 Thread Hector Oron
Hello Lluís, 2009/8/27 Lluís Batlle : > I'm not crosscompiling. I'm using a debian and a fedora on arm. I have > two Sheevaplugs available, and try in both. I'd like to bootstrap gcc > there. So I'll keep on debian-arm :) > I could have asked the same in both lists, but I thought I could > offend

Re: I need fast ARM Hardware for native compile

2010-01-13 Thread Hector Oron
Hi Lennert, 2010/1/13 Lennert Buytenhek : > There's e.g.: > >         > http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives/2009/12/kuro_sheeva_mini_server.html ...and wireless? -- Héctor Orón "Our Sun unleashes tremendous flares expelling hot gas into the Solar System, which one day will disconnect us."

Re: I need fast ARM Hardware for native compile

2010-01-13 Thread Hector Oron
Hi again, 2010/1/13 Lennert Buytenhek : > I guess you could add an SDIO or USB wireless module?  (I don't know > of retail Sheevaplug variants with wireless built in, if that's what > you're asking.) I saw http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Marvell-Plug-Computer-30-and-Armada-300-and-610/ j

Re: 8.9" CT-PC89E ARM netbook .... UPDATE 04 FEB 2010 12:00

2010-02-04 Thread Hector Oron
Hi ! 2010/2/4 Alejandro Mery : > been "engineering samples"... what about the UART, serial port (even 2 > pins help a lot) and jtag reachability? =) That's an important part. :-) Let me explain our experience. A bunch of Debian Developers met at Taipei (.tw) and we got a netbook (MIPS based) unde

Re: 8.9" CT-PC89E ARM netbook .... UPDATE 04 FEB 2010 12:00

2010-02-04 Thread Hector Oron
Hi, 2010/2/4 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton : >> Let me explain our experience. A bunch of Debian Developers met at >> Taipei (.tw) and we got a netbook (MIPS based) under $100. After we >> got it, we had *no shell*, *no root*, *no loader access*, *no >> serial*,... >> >> We had to exploit a vulnera

Re: genesi and open rd

2010-02-08 Thread Hector Oron
Hello Nicolas, 2010/2/8 NG : > i've seen that open rd seems good and used on this forum. > But what about genesi ? the form factor is sleek, but the processor is > perhaps outdated (A8). OpenRD (armv5 instruction set) is supported in debian-installer, thanks to tbm. I would like to have more time

Re: genesi and open rd

2010-02-08 Thread Hector Oron
Hi, 2010/2/8 Martin Guy : > On 2/8/10, Bill Gatliff wrote: >> OT, but has anyone looked at what gains can be had by rebuilding >>  packages with, say, A8 or other optimizations for processors that >>  support them? > Well, it has a VFP FPU, so floating point apps will run N times > faster, and GC

Yet another [cross] installer

2010-03-01 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, Nowadays, the number of devices (non x86) is growing and growing. Lots of these devices have not upstream linux kernel support, which makes it a bit harder to maintain in the context of debian-installer. Also, afaict, debian-installer team does not like to add complexity to d-i, which I u

Re: Yet another [cross] installer

2010-03-05 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, 2010/3/3 Oliver Kiddle : > If you consider what makes the non-x86 hardware different it is the lack > of a standard way to boot an alternate OS. With a PC BIOS you can instruct > a PC to boot from a floppy/CD/whatever and we only need a single CD image > to boot most PCs. Even for headless

Re: Yet another [cross] installer

2010-03-05 Thread Hector Oron
Hi, 2010/3/5 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton : >> It is nice if we can hack manufacturers toys, but if those are >> non-free to hackers, why should we "officially" support them? > >  because they may turn out to be "toys" numbering in the several > hundred thousand to millions of units (e.g. > http:/

Re: Yet another [cross] installer

2010-03-05 Thread Hector Oron
Hello Luke, Thanks for the comments, really interesting stuff :-) > so the question comes down to this: whom do you serve? do you serve > yourself, or do you serve others, who have less skill with computers > than yourself? Today I work on free software for learning... I think it has alwa

Re: Very newbe help/pointers required about building a distribution from scratch

2010-03-11 Thread Hector Oron
(Add debian-embedded@ as Neil was suggesting) Hello, 2010/3/10 Jonathan Wilson : > What I'd like to know is how do I build a distribution entirely from > scratch/source like the pro's do. linux from scratch is a great reference. > ie. Get all the debian source for the latest arm port (just the

Re: ARM BoF at DebConf

2010-06-09 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, 2010/6/9 Daniel Kahn Gillmor : > Both you and Hector Oron submitted ARM BoF-type events, but they were > submitted well after the submission deadline, so they won't even be > reviewed for submission into the published schedule.  (i'm currently the > point person for

Re: ARM BoF at DebConf

2010-06-09 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, 2010/6/9 Martin Michlmayr : > Ian Sullivan said he'd submit a BoF or other event for people > interested in hacking on the SheevaPlug.  We could use this event to > talk about in ARM in general as well, assuming Ian submitted > something.  Can you confirm, Daniel? According to https://pent

armelfp: new architecture name for an armel variant

2010-07-06 Thread Hector Oron
Dear armel porters, I am writting this letter to you by out concern of having to pick up a name for a new armel architecture variant optimized for hard floating point, instead soft floating point. Konstantinos (and I shall be also supporting him) is willing to maintain a new architecture fo

Re: armelfp: new architecture name for an armel variant

2010-07-08 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, 2010/7/8, Wookey : .. > armarm-linux-gnu .. > I guess that's (more than) enough for now. Thoughts welcome. Would be sane to use old deprecated OABI name? armarm-linux-gnu Kind regards, -- Héctor Orón "Our Sun unleashes tremendous flares expelling hot gas into t

Re: armelfp: new architecture name for an armel variant

2010-07-08 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, 2010/7/8, Wookey : .. > armarm-linux-gnu .. > I guess that's (more than) enough for now. Thoughts welcome. Would it be sane to use old deprecated OABI name? armarm-linux-gnu Kind regards, -- Héctor Orón "Our Sun unleashes tremendous flares expelling hot gas int

Re: armelfp: new architecture name for an armel variant

2010-07-08 Thread Hector Oron
I, hereby, quote some comments from Matt Sealey (Genesi-USA devel): ( Call for hardware: Anyone wanting hardware to work on the port, please contact me -- better do it ASAP --, Genesi-USA is kind enough to provide it ) -- Just a few comments on the IRC log: The kernel on gitorious was kind of a

Re: armelfp: new architecture name for an armel variant

2010-07-09 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, 2010/7/9, Loïc Minier : > Please, let's not use the last field; there is not only the default > target of the toolchain, there is also the toolchain itself. An > arm-linux-gnueabi toolchain can target both soft and hard float calling > conventions, so a single triplet. It would be per

Re: armelfp: new architecture name for an armel variant

2010-07-09 Thread Hector Oron
Hello again, 2010/7/9, Clint Adams : > I prefer 'armhf', FWIW. Somebody against 'armhf'? Have we got it? And for the triplet, is it OK to use vendor tag as explained in the wiki page[1]? arm-hardfloat-linux-gnueabi or armhf-linux-gnueabi Please, remember, that this effort is not official t

Re: armelfp: new architecture name for an armel variant

2010-07-10 Thread Hector Oron
Hello Martin, 2010/7/10, Martin Guy : > What are the effects of the name choice? If we pick up the wrong name, then we would need to start over the bootstrapping again, and we would like to avoid that. > Is it really just a matter of personal taste? For the Debian architecture name, I believe t

Re: armelfp: new architecture name for an armel variant

2010-07-10 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, 2010/7/10, Martin Guy : > Sure. So my question was "what are the technical impacts of the string > chosen as an arch name?" -or- "What would make it 'wrong'"? AFAICS, there are no technical impacts. If someone knows it better, please expand. > Sorry, I didn't mean that literal string, I m

Re: armelfp: new architecture name for an armel variant

2010-07-10 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, 2010/7/10, Hector Oron : > 2010/7/10, Martin Guy : >> Sure. So my question was "what are the technical impacts of the string >> chosen as an arch name?" -or- "What would make it 'wrong'"? > > AFAICS, there are no technical impacts. If so

Re: armelfp: new architecture name for an armel variant

2010-07-13 Thread Hector Oron
Dear Aurelien, 2010/7/13, Aurelien Jarno : > One more technical issue, though not directly related to ARM: we need to > upgrade the hard drives on the debian-ports.org machine before accepting > a new port. Nothing hudge, but that may introduce a bit of delay. Is there something I can do to help

cortex / arm-hardfloat-linux-gnueabi (was Re: armelfp: new architecture name for an armel variant)

2010-07-14 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, 2010/7/6, Hector Oron : > Dear armel porters, [...] It is past over a week and people is wanting to start. I would like to point you to a parallel discussion hold at recent created Linaro group [1] There is also a wiki page for the port [2] The one that bootstraps the port picks

Re: wxWidgets-2.8 completely broken on lenny arm

2010-07-14 Thread Hector Oron
Hello Cristian, 2010/7/14, Cristian Greco : > To the best of my knowledge and experience, the only bug which seems to > be related to this kind of issue could be #487406, which was filed and > forwarded upstream a lot of time ago[2]. > > Any confirmation, help and comment would be really apprecia

Re: wxWidgets-2.8 completely broken on lenny arm

2010-07-14 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, 2010/7/14, Cristian Greco : > bug #537733 only affects the version of amule in lenny for arm. > > I did all of my tests on a qemu-system-arm virtual machine. The > segfaults are not reproducible on armel (again, tested with qemu). I would recommend you tag the bug as 'wontfix', as Debian d

Re: cortex / arm-hardfloat-linux-gnueabi (was Re: armelfp: new architecture name for an armel variant)

2010-07-14 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, 2010/7/15, Konstantinos Margaritis : > First, 'cortex' is not a vendor. it's a cpu family. It's not owned by > Marvell > or Qualcomm, but by ARM, if they are OK with us using the name, I don't see > why the other companies would mind, esp. if they don't offer a cpu in that > particular fami

Re: wxWidgets-2.8 completely broken on lenny arm

2010-07-14 Thread Hector Oron
Hello Martin, 2010/7/15, Martin Michlmayr : > * Hector Oron [2010-07-14 22:54]: >> I would recommend you tag the bug as 'wontfix', as Debian does not fix >> stable release, but only provides security updates on the stable >> release. > > That's not true.

Re: cortex / arm-hardfloat-linux-gnueabi (was Re: armelfp: new architecture name for an armel variant)

2010-07-15 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, 2010/7/15, Paul Brook : > It isn't. "Cortex" is the marketing name for the current set of CPU core > implementations designed by ARM ltd. Calling the armv7 port "cortex" is > equivalent to calling the i686 port "pentium" [1]. But i?86 is ABI compatible, while ARM ABI is a full mess AFAICS

Re: armelfp: new architecture name for an armel variant

2010-07-15 Thread Hector Oron
Dear developers, 2010/7/13, Riku Voipio : > Subarchs could also be useful if we wanted to build softfp abi compatible > armv6/armv7 armel builds of the whole debian repository. Of course we could > do > builds without subarchs, but then users would be unable distinguish which > installed packages

Re: cortex / arm-hardfloat-linux-gnueabi (was Re: armelfp: new architecture name for an armel variant)

2010-07-15 Thread Hector Oron
Hello Loïc, 2010/7/15, Loïc Minier : > Concerning the triplet choice, I'd highly recommend reading this > upstream thread: > http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2010-07/threads.html#00179 Thanks for sharing it. Quite interesting. For my point of view, ABI should not be encoded in the upstream triple

Re: cortex / arm-hardfloat-linux-gnueabi (was Re: armelfp: new architecture name for an armel variant)

2010-07-16 Thread Hector Oron
Hello Loic, 2010/7/16 Loïc Minier : >  still need a new port.  We also need a different triplet for the >  multiarch use case; I know you're not too interested in multiarch >  yourself anymore, but it's safer to pick a different triplet >  nevertheless IMHO, using the vendor field. Excuse me! Do

Re: cortex / arm-hardfloat-linux-gnueabi (was Re: armelfp: new architecture name for an armel variant)

2010-07-16 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, 2010/7/16 Aurelien Jarno : >> So, the same question: what is the measured speed up for users of ARM >> architectures >=5, and is it worth excluding the significant number of >> users of armv4t boards, from using "the universal operating system" >> Debian? > > I was not aware of that. If the

Take 3: armhf /arm-hardfloat-linux-gnueabi as new arch

2010-07-16 Thread Hector Oron
Dear porters, dpkg maintainers and developers, It seems that `armhf' and `arm-hardfloat-linux-gnueabi' are the winners. We are starting to work on Debian new port based on those names. Thanks all for your contributions! Best regards, -- Héctor Orón 19:57 < markos_> ostable: armhf

Multiarch and ABI support

2010-07-19 Thread Hector Oron
-architecture flags set could do the job) • Lots of work for administrator. (A distributed shell or the right bindings in place could also keep up with it) Plus there is place for multiple binaries as well, that you can easily run using QEmu magic. > (BTW... if you want to run

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