I wish we would take a look at the task packages and fix them up.
Anyone can help with this process, which would significantly improve
the experience for new users. All you have to do is run 'tasksel' and
play around with it. For extra creds, on a base-only system
(debootstrap can build one
While I like the idea of removing old kernels from the Potato (and
woody) archives, I object to some of the removals.
Here are my arguments:
No way to use 2.2.19 for boot-floppies update for Potato, there are no
PCMCIA for it.
Moreover, I think 2.2.19 has some serious problems, although I
Adam Di Carlo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No way to use 2.2.19 for boot-floppies update for Potato, there are no
PCMCIA for it.
PCMCIA modules have been compiled for 2.2.19. They've been around for
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Previously Wolfgang Sourdeau wrote:
Another argument is that zile is kind of a stripped-down version of
Emacs, and Emacs is the standard editor for the GNU system, which I am
sure most of the people on this list are using.
Emacs is not `the standard editor', it is just one of the two most
Wolfgang == Wolfgang Sourdeau [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
what do you think to include as basic editor? vim? and elvis-tiny
for boot-floopies?
Wolfgang I am just experiencing zile and I find it quite good. And,
Wolfgang btw, it is meant primarily for boot floppies. Another
Wolfgang
On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 11:33:30AM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote:
rblcheck why standard?
exim use this? i don't know
There would be a dependency between them if it did.
mtoolsonly usefull for dos users
Considering of the number of DOS-formatted floppy disks in
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On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 03:46:13AM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
aenot used as basic editor anymore, everyone seems to hate it
what do you think to include as basic editor? vim? and
Woody installation (via boot-floppies, base-config, tasksel, apt) will
change from Potato in that, normally, all packages marked as standard
will be marked for installation.
Citing Policy:
`standard'
These packages provide a reasonably small but not too limited
On Sat, 12 May 2001 03:46:13 -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
exim we should move to postfix, IMHO
Let's not go over this again, but why change at all if it is
working ok? We should all have better things than to worry
about such things.
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Previously Adam Di Carlo wrote:
exim we should move to postfix, IMHO
FWIW, I disagree, and I'ld like to see some really good arguments before
we make a change like that.
Wichert.
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On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 03:46:13AM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
exim we should move to postfix, IMHO
Whilst I agree with you on all the others. postfix is 3 times the size
of exim, and a fraction harder to configure. (This isn't meant as
flamebait.)
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On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 01:13:54PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
Emacs is not `the standard editor', it is just one of the two most popular
ones. More importantly, we need an editor in the b-f that everyone can
use easily without having to know emacs, vi or any other editor.
I seem to have
I just installed debian from the cd's and after entering name and password,
I get a command line which reads
jdj329@debian:~$ What do I do from here?
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| On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 03:46:13AM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
|aenot used as basic editor anymore, everyone seems to hate it
|
| what do you think to include as basic editor? vim? and elvis-tiny for
| boot-floopies?
nano-tiny
This has been decided alreay,
On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 03:46:13AM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
Here's a provisional list of packages which are standard or higher and
should not be:
exim we should move to postfix, IMHO
Just for education's sake, what are the reasons you hold this opinion?
I use exim simply
On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 12:42:01AM +1000, Drew Parsons wrote:
On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 03:46:13AM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
Here's a provisional list of packages which are standard or higher and
should not be:
exim we should move to postfix, IMHO
Just for education's
At 10:38 PM +0200 5/11/01, Giorgio Terzi wrote:
Bug 4: dboostrap problem.
dbootsrap was not able to recognize the driver's floppy disk
because the drivers' default names was treated as complete
names but they are really root names for example:
drv14 is a root name
drv14apus.bin is a
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 10:38:07PM +0200, Giorgio Terzi wrote:
Hello Sven,
In first i wish to thank you for your help and for your last
e-mail. :)))
But let's speak about job.
The second goal is reached!
Now is possible to load install Rescue Driver images from
floppies,
On 12 May 2001, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
libident why? not used by other std package, pidentd
rblcheck why standard?
These are used by exim IIRC.
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Just for education's sake, what are the reasons you hold this opinion?
I use exim simply because it came standard. I'd like to know why postfix is
better.
http://www.postfix.org/motivation.html
Postfix is a little bigger on
Previously Jacob Kuntz wrote:
http://www.postfix.org/motivation.html
From what I hear:
postfix does not do IPv6
postfix does not do TLS (not officialy and juding by comments on
#debian-devel from today not reliably either)
postfix header rewriting isn't flexible
postfix uses multiple files
I'm a simple user,
I think after install Debian base, switch from exim to
postfix is just a matter of apt-get install!
Regards, Paulo Henrique
Quoting Wichert Akkerman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Previously Jacob Kuntz wrote:
http://www.postfix.org/motivation.html
From what
WA postfix does not do IPv6
WA postfix does not do TLS (not officialy and juding by comments on
WA#debian-devel from today not reliably either)
Recently there was released new stable version of postfix. It does
support TLS. AFAIK it doesn't support IPV6 out of box right now. There
is exist
At 12:46 PM -0700 5/11/01, David Whedon wrote:
Fri, May 11, 2001 at 01:56:34PM -0500 wrote:
The next major stumbling block I ran into was that pump doesn't work
(bts# 94176). Pump has annoyed me for a number of reasons including
bts#64092 and its kin. I think there was some discussion
James Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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I get a command line which reads
jdj329@debian:~$ What do I do from here?
Wherever you want to...
Most people generally get X11 worked out so they have a GUI
environment.
I should be able to release 2.2.24 tomorrow -- I'm not testing that it
builds and all that, then I'll tag it and build from exported sources
tomorrow.
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Herbert Xu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Adam Di Carlo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No way to use 2.2.19 for boot-floppies update for Potato, there are no
PCMCIA for it.
PCMCIA modules have been compiled for 2.2.19. They've been around for
weeks.
Well, auric is down so I can't even check
Adam Di Carlo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Herbert Xu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Adam Di Carlo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No way to use 2.2.19 for boot-floppies update for Potato, there are no
PCMCIA for it.
PCMCIA modules have been compiled for 2.2.19. They've been around for
On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 03:32:39AM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
I propose the following thorough-going changes:
rename server packages to 'task-server-*'
rename devel packages to 'task-devel-*'
rename l10n packages to 'task-l10n-*'
The purpose of this is to group like packages together in
Herbert Xu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
My experience of the 2.2.19 kernels is that they are still unsuitable
for building. I will research more so I can more demonstrations of
this.
Please do so.
Hmm, I compared all the config files and they seem fine. My
apologies. Nice work.
Once
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At 12:46 PM -0700 5/11/01, David Whedon wrote:
Fri, May 11, 2001 at 01:56:34PM -0500 wrote:
The next major stumbling block I ran into was that pump doesn't work
(bts# 94176). Pump has annoyed me for a number of reasons including
bts#64092
David Whedon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Fri, May 11, 2001 at 01:56:34PM -0500 wrote:
That got me all the way to installing base, but that slammed to a halt
quickly since it appears that md5sum is broken (another busybox problem?
ppc-only? needs more research). So, I commented out the md5
Bastian Blank wrote:
On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 03:46:13AM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
aenot used as basic editor anymore, everyone seems to hate it
what do you think to include as basic editor? vim? and elvis-tiny for
boot-floopies?
The editor for boot floppies doesnt have
BTW, anthony, I hadn't read your thread on task packages when I wrote
this plea for help. But I think we're going after different things
-- you, a sane task system for sid, me, just better tasks using
existing tools for Woody.
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Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I want to check and see if some of the uglier cruft in base-config can
be removed for the woody boot-floppies. Can anyone verify:
- If LANG is set, will it be properly set to a ll_LL form? Base-config
had some code to deal with the ll form, which broke
Sounds like a good plan. /sbin/dhclient in the deb is a script that
calls either dhclient-2.2.x or dhclient-2.0.x depending on uname -r. I
just dropped dhclient-2.0.x and dhclient from the EXTRACT lists. I
wonder if dhclient-2.2.x is renamed dhclient in the udeb? I suppose
I'll just
On Sat May 12, 2001 at 01:05:55PM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
David Whedon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Fri, May 11, 2001 at 01:56:34PM -0500 wrote:
That got me all the way to installing base, but that slammed to a halt
quickly since it appears that md5sum is broken (another busybox
Fabian Roth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
i've been trying to make the cvs-snapshot. make check succeeds, but
make fails with:
make[3]: Entering directory `/home/fin/cvs/boot-floppies/utilities/dbootstrap'
pointerize -m po/C.mo floppy_merge.c build/floppy_merge.t.c
String Some important
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I'm building a new one now. Rather then waiting for 0.52 to
stabalize, I'm backporting the critical bugfixes into 0.51.
Thank you . Please let us know when it's up. I can do a source
release tomorrow and then we can have working boot-floppies source
Anthony Towns wrote:
you can't see the packages that comprise a task or their descriptions, nor
can you include a long description. ie, the whole Task Info thing's
missing.
I don't think that's very important. A task is supposed to satisfy a
simple, well-defined need. If you want a web
On 12 May 2001, Peter Korsgaard wrote:
Wolfgang == Wolfgang Sourdeau [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
what do you think to include as basic editor? vim? and elvis-tiny
for boot-floopies?
Wolfgang I am just experiencing zile and I find it quite good. And,
Wolfgang btw, it is meant
On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 01:13:54PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
Previously Wolfgang Sourdeau wrote:
Another argument is that zile is kind of a stripped-down version of
Emacs, and Emacs is the standard editor for the GNU system, which I am
sure most of the people on this list are using.
Your message dated 12 May 2001 13:18:04 -0400
with message-id [EMAIL PROTECTED]
and subject line Bug#96906: Base-install over net doesnt load lilo
has caused the attached Bug report to be marked as done.
This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with.
If this is not the case it
On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 01:39:43PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
(BTW, could someone from Progeny PLEASE speak up and give us a summary
of how your task analog works?)
I'd tell you in IRC, but whoops, for no apparent reason I've been banned
from the channel. Probably by someone who has said in the
On Sat, 12 May 2001, Wolfgang Sourdeau wrote:
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aenot used as basic editor anymore, everyone seems to hate it
what
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These are based on the latest CVS of boot-floppies. The major change is
that the sun4u images are built from the 2.4.4 kernel images. The best
part about this is that this means that should support Blade 100/1000
(don't hold me to this, I can't test them) since they are synced with
vger CVS as of
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These are based on the latest CVS of boot-floppies. The major change is
that the sun4u images are built from the 2.4.4 kernel images. The best
part about this is that this means that should support Blade 100/1000
(don't hold me to this, I can't test
On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 04:40:51PM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
These are based on the latest CVS of boot-floppies. The major change is
that the sun4u images are built from the 2.4.4 kernel images. The best
part about this is that this means that
I don't understand this. How is it related to debian-cd ?
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I have removed fdutils because the interactive setup it has was breaking the
install, as aj had noticed when building debootstrap 0.1.7, has anybody
noticed the maintainer about this? shall I do it?
yes, please file a serious bug
You should be using the idepci flavor of i386 install disks. That
is bootable from one of the ISO images -- see the manual. Or you can
make a rescue floppy and use CD1 for the rest.
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I assume this patch was already applied by David Weldon?
s/Weldon/Whedon/ everybody does it, I don't know why :-)
Yes, I applied it. If something is missing, unfinished or messed with respect to
this patch I don't know about it.
David
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Immediately before the main menu appears, I see a whole bunch of
messages that look like this:
modprob: modprob: Can't open dependencies file
target/lib/modules/2.2.19pre17...
Does the directory exist?
AFter you install the kernel and modules,
* Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010512 14:00]:
Yeah. That's why I'm just worrying about sun4u, since I can test those.
Let me know if there are any oddities with sparc32 boot.
Sadly, it doesn't seem to work on the AX1105 (similar to SB100) that I
have here:
ok boot net
Boot
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
close 96156
Bug#96156: dbootstrap install menus look wierd
Bug closed, send any further explanations to David Whedon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Somehow this has been fixed.
Unknown command or malformed arguments to command.
End of message, stopping
On Sat May 12, 2001 at 12:10:26PM -0600, Erik Andersen wrote:
It is now in incoming. Lemme know if you have any problems with
it. I did a rather quick hack-n-slash job to put this together.
It should be fine now, and I think I have all bugs bothering the
boot-floppies fixed. Hopefully I
I have an Ultra1 and I installed Debian using the boot floppies. Typing in
boot floopy at the ok prompt seemed to work just fine.
Tom Korte
On Sat, 12 May 2001 14:58:49 Ben Collins wrote:
On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 04:40:51PM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
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On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 01:39:43PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
Anthony Towns wrote:
Also, this is one of the reasons I think we should give people the
opportunity to drop into dselect/something better after broadly
outlining their tasks to they can tweak the result if necessary.
I think we
Ben Collins writes:
Let me know how things go.
It gets an illegal instruction immediately on my sb1000.
Something is hosed with the TILO image I think. The 'linux-a.out'
image, on the other hand, booted just fine on the machine.
Later,
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Hi,
I wonder if anyone could help me with an installation problem. I'm trying to
install Debian 2.2r2 from CD onto an AMD based PC. This is a completely
empty drive I'm installing to.
So far I have seen the black screen with the help pages (and read them),
pressed enter, seen lots of info whizz
On Sat, May 12, Ben Collins wrote:
Let me know how things go.
http://auric.debian.org/~bcollins/disks-sparc/current/
For netboot, you should only need the tftpimage under the subarch
directory of your choice. The rest of the install should be able to
download everything else itself.
If
Fri, May 11, 2001 at 05:39:21PM +0200 wrote:
Hello,
On Monday I had to install my new box and decided to go for Woody
directly. This is my report.
thanks for the report.
Install
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could review the state of the
Bastian Blank [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 03:46:13AM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
rcs few use it
replace it with cvs
rcs and cvs solve very different problems. They are by no means
equivalent, and I use both, and I know lots of people who use both on a
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