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Hello,
At this moment has this bug severity 'grave'.
That means that not being able to resize NTFS partitions (that start at
an odd sector) is blocking the release.
Is it really a release blocker?
Cheers
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tags 321109 patch
thanks
Oops, forgot the patch itself.
I have some comments about the wording:
On Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 07:21:32PM -0700, Philip Stephens wrote:
Package: installation-reports
Boot method: Minimal CD, then network
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Output of lspci and lspci -n:(not available: stuck in setup)
It is available at VT2 (virtual termian 2, use ALT-F2 (or
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On Sunday 13 August 2006 22:38, Julian Graham wrote:
The attached patch adds a password confirmation window to the
grub-installer script (http://bugs.debian.org/321109).
This patch asks the password as two separate questions (with a separate
db_go for each db_input, while it is also possible
On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 05:03:50PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
The Debian Installer team is proud to announce the third beta release
of the installer for Debian GNU/Linux Etch.
How to handle installation reports we get from Beta 3?
More peticular: How to tag those reports?
Instructions I'm
Hi,
After electing elilo (GRUB/LILO were presented as alternatives) installing
elilo stalled at 50%. I had accepted to install into the only presented
partition (/dev/sda1, about 200 MB FAT32 partition, partman reported 3.1 kB
free memory before.). This first partition was created my the
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On Monday 14 August 2006 10:18, Geert Stappers wrote:
At this moment has this bug severity 'grave'.
That means that not being able to resize NTFS partitions (that start at
an odd sector) is blocking the release.
No, but offering the option to users with the result that data on the
partition
On Monday 14 August 2006 13:33, Geert Stappers wrote:
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due
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On Monday 14 August 2006 01:58, Michael Gilbert wrote:
Package: debian-installer
the following packages require the user to enter information during the
package installation portion of the
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On Monday 14 August 2006 04:48, Jay Berkenbilt wrote:
It occurs to me that the reason this succeeded was that it was using
the 2.4 kernel rather than the 2.6 kernel. So the problem is that the
2.6 d-i kernel fails to see both devices simultaneously.
Have
Package: installation-reports
Version: 2.17
Severity: important
I don't remember if cupsys was installed by default, but I certainly did
not install lpr. However, I had both of them installed on my system and
was wondering why I could not print.
My question is: if cupsys is being installed by
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Package: installation-reports
Boot method: CD
Image version: beta3 netinst
Date: 20060814
Machine: SGI IP22 (Indigo2)
Processor: R4400SC 200 MHz
Memory: 256 MB
Partitions:
No partitioning done.
Output of lspci and lspci -n:
No PCI onboard.
Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E
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Hi Frans,
I would like to participate the Debian-installer translation work.
The language I intend to translate is Chinese-Traditional.
My account name in alioth is suenr-guest. Please grant me the
admission to this project.
Well, we already have
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Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Note: the installation manual lacks the instructions needed to boot
from the CD (boot -f scsi(X)cdrom(Y)partition(8)/r4k-ip22 in the PROM)
This should work semi-automatically via the install system entry in
the
Julien BLACHE wrote:
[snip]
Note: the installation manual lacks the instructions needed to boot
from the CD (boot -f scsi(X)cdrom(Y)partition(8)/r4k-ip22 in the PROM)
This should work semi-automatically via the install system entry in
the firmware menu.
Thiemo
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Indeed, the code in localechooser that decides to display one or
another set of languages is pretty incomplete. It decides this based
on assumptions about the display but these are probably incomplete:
The console in this case should be a standard
Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Note: the installation manual lacks the instructions needed to boot
from the CD (boot -f scsi(X)cdrom(Y)partition(8)/r4k-ip22 in the PROM)
This should work semi-automatically via the install system entry in
the firmware menu.
That's what I thought
Package: installation-reports
Boot method: CD
Image version: etch beta 3
Date: 2006-08-14
Machine: SUN SparcStation 20 clone (WS-20L)
Processor: SuperSparc II 70MHz
Memory: 448 MB
Partitions:
Output of lspci and lspci -n:
(System has only SBUS)
Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK,
Some strings in the list of languages aren't displayed properly, which
means the installation probably can't be done using the affected
languages.
Indeed, the code in localechooser that decides to display one or
another set of languages is pretty incomplete. It decides this based
on
Find attached a revised version of the patch that asks the questions together.
On 8/14/06, Frans Pop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sunday 13 August 2006 22:38, Julian Graham wrote:
The attached patch adds a password confirmation window to the
grub-installer script
On Sunday 13 August 2006 21:36, Ingo Juergensmann wrote:
Please add:
* Keyboard doesn't work on MIPS (SGI Indy)
I've added this to the errata. My guess is that this is a kernel issue.
I'd suggest reporting a bug against the kernel or first discussing it on
the debian-mips list.
* X
Julien BLACHE wrote:
Christian Perrier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Indeed, the code in localechooser that decides to display one or
another set of languages is pretty incomplete. It decides this based
on assumptions about the display but these are probably incomplete:
The console in this
On Friday 11 August 2006 17:09, Rick Thomas wrote:
Will this fix the problem of the kernel not booting on OldWorld
PowerPC Macintosh?
Hello Rick,
I'm sorry, but I honestly don't know. It sounds to me that there has been
a regression in the kernel that results in your system not booting any
Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Well, it _should_ try to boot from scsi(X)cdrom(Y)partition(8)/sashARCS,
which _should_ be provided in the CD's volume header as an alias to
r4k-ip22.
From the PROM:
ls scsi(0)cdrom(3)partition(8)
scsi(0)cdrom(3)partition(8):
r4k-ip22
From a
Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The console in this case should be a standard Linux console on
framebuffer, but I guess that it's not /that/ standard after
all. Maybe Thiemo can tell us more about that ?
It is not at all a standard framebuffer. The hardware allows no direct
memory
On Monday 14 August 2006 14:43, Steve McIntyre wrote:
The DVD torrents are already produced, just not linked from the page
at http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/. Check out
I've committed a change to the d-i page that adds all missing links (there
were a few others that were
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Christian, can you confirm that the installer uses a UTF-8 console ?
Yes, it does.
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On Monday 14 August 2006 10:18, Geert Stappers wrote:
[ this bug, severity 'grave', is blocking the release. ]
No, but offering the option to users with the result that data on the
partition will be destroyed (or at least unusable
On Monday 14 August 2006 16:32, Tapio Lehtonen wrote:
Some glitch during installgui, error message flashed too fast to read.
Someting about not being able to pan. Looked like after that some text
were in english and not finnish anymore.
Hmm. Does not ring any bells. Anything in the syslog
reassign 382976 tasksel
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On Monday 14 August 2006 14:44, Ionut Georgescu wrote:
I don't remember if cupsys was installed by default, but I certainly
did not install lpr. However, I had both of them installed on my system
and was wondering why I could not print.
My question is: if
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My other computer installs Debian from
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http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/main/installer-i386\
/current//images/netboot/debian-installer/i386/ and
Otavio Salvador wrote:
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+db_get base-installer/includes
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log() {
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Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Which would indicate a problem with the CD build script, I guess ?
Yes. IIRC it worked correctly for sarge.
Looking at the debian-cd SVN, the scripts for sarge and etch are
mostly identical. So that would be an issue with mkisofs.
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Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Well, it _should_ try to boot from scsi(X)cdrom(Y)partition(8)/sashARCS,
which _should_ be provided in the CD's volume header as an alias to
r4k-ip22.
From the PROM:
ls scsi(0)cdrom(3)partition(8)
user debian-boot@lists.debian.org
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Thomas Arendsen Hein wrote:
I booted d-i etch beta3 (full CD, x86) in expert mode.
The system has two S-ATA disks (sda and sdb).
When playing around with the installer I deleted two existing RAID
partitions and recreated them. d-i detected existing data (a LVM pv)
on the RAID partition and
Frans Pop wrote:
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On Monday 14 August 2006 14:44, Ionut Georgescu wrote:
I don't remember if cupsys was installed by default, but I certainly
did not install lpr. However, I had both of them installed on my system
and was wondering why I could not print.
Martin Michlmayr wrote:
Author: tbm
Date: Sun Aug 13 23:05:04 2006
New Revision: 39782
Modified:
trunk/installer/build/config/arm/ixp4xx/netboot.cfg
Log:
use initramfs so we don't have to worry about root=
Modified: trunk/installer/build/config/arm/ixp4xx/netboot.cfg
Tiago Saboga wrote:
The shell in my root partition ran, but I could not mount /usr, grub-install
didn't work (this is imho a bug in grub-install, which depends on programs
in /usr). And the error message, when I close the shell, was much clearer:
Error running shell in /target: A shell
On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 02:01:32PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
On Monday 14 August 2006 13:33, Geert Stappers wrote:
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See this mail
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Bug#321109: no confirm password window
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Joseph Smidt wrote:
I choose to go the sudo route. Everything works fine on the command
line, i.e. I can't login as root and sudo works with the password I gave
it. But none of the gui admin applications work without root.
Example, I try to use synaptic my sudo password doesn't work.
As far as I know there is absolutely no way to have user-setup being
run before partman in the current way the installer is working.
Is that actually true anymore? user-setup only touches /target in
user-setup-apply; user-setup-ask seems to not need /target at all, and
user-setup-udeb doesn't
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On Monday 14 August 2006 05:10, Christian Perrier wrote:
(BTW, we should fix nextwork-console so that the very similar password
confirmation prompt is worded similarly)
AFAICT only the short description for password-again is different. Fixed.
The one where I see a real difference is
On Monday 14 August 2006 16:21, Julian Graham wrote:
Find attached a revised version of the patch that asks the questions
together.
After looking at the patch a bit more I noticed that it conflicts with
current preseeding:
- it does not allow preseeding anymore because it empties password
-
On Monday 14 August 2006 23:30, Joey Hess wrote:
That said, I don't actually see any benefit from running user-setup
before partman, as opposed to before apt-setup. In either case it's
running as part of a block of questions that all happen quite close
together with minimal wait time for the
Package: installation-reports
Boot method: I booted from the 14 CD.isos provided at http://cosmos.cites.uiuc.edu/pub/debian-cd/3.1_r2/i386/iso-cd/
Image version: Version 3.1 release 2
Date: 8/14/2006
(I verified all the iso files using md5sum, and comparing them to the
values given on
On Tuesday 15 August 2006 02:59, Kevin P. Rosteing, M.D. wrote:
Comments/Problems: I did not get past the initial CD-ROM disk.
4.Detecting hardware to find CD-ROM drives at 92%; Starting PC card
services .
Please see if this section from our installation guide helps you:
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log() {
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it. But none of the gui admin applications work without root.
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Christian, can you confirm that the installer uses a UTF-8 console ?
Yep, it does.
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A scan shows that only two packages still refer to VT3. These have now
been fixed in line with other packages.
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Bug#383066: debian-installer: Installer talks about the third console, but it
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Bug#383066: debian-installer: Installer talks about the third console, but
On Saturday 12 August 2006 10:35, Otavio Salvador wrote:
Does anyone has comments about it?
(Ignoring the debug stuff which was already removed in a later version of
the patch.)
This patch gives me the feeling that functionality is being added because
it is possible, not because it is really
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