Re: RFC: warn user about first accounts privs

2007-01-11 Thread Frans Pop
Hi Dann, On Thursday 11 January 2007 02:05, dann frazier wrote: I'm not sure what changes are considered acceptable at this point in d-i, but I wanted to float this one. I discovered while researching #404927 that the first user added at install time is also added to various system groups.

Bug#406431: marked as done (debian-installer-manual: Document how to enable the use of SATA optical drives)

2007-01-11 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug#406473: installation-reports

2007-01-11 Thread Werner Macho
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Package: installation-reports Boot method: CD etch 04012007 Image version: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/amd64/iso-cd/debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso Date: 11.01.2007 Machine: SunFire X4100 Processor: processor

Processing of partman-base_102_amd64.changes

2007-01-11 Thread Archive Administrator
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Processing of hw-detect_1.47_amd64.changes

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hw-detect_1.47_amd64.changes ACCEPTED

2007-01-11 Thread Debian Installer
Accepted: archdetect_1.47_amd64.udeb to pool/main/h/hw-detect/archdetect_1.47_amd64.udeb disk-detect_1.47_all.udeb to pool/main/h/hw-detect/disk-detect_1.47_all.udeb ethdetect_1.47_all.udeb to pool/main/h/hw-detect/ethdetect_1.47_all.udeb hw-detect_1.47.dsc to

partman-base_102_amd64.changes ACCEPTED

2007-01-11 Thread Debian Installer
Accepted: partman-base_102.dsc to pool/main/p/partman-base/partman-base_102.dsc partman-base_102.tar.gz to pool/main/p/partman-base/partman-base_102.tar.gz partman-base_102_amd64.udeb to pool/main/p/partman-base/partman-base_102_amd64.udeb Override entries for your package:

Bug#406483: After base install computer hang

2007-01-11 Thread Grzegorz Szyszło
Package: installation-reports Version: etch Severity: critical This report is about current (see email date) floppy installation. I make 4 installation etch diskettes. All processess after flopy boot works ok, hard drive is detected properly, partitioning, detect network ok, getting packages

Bug#406483: System fails to boot after installation

2007-01-11 Thread Frans Pop
severity 406483 normal retitle 406483 System fails to boot after installation thanks On Thursday 11 January 2007 15:19, Grzegorz Szyszło wrote: Severity: critical A simple failure to reboot is not a critical issue, especially not if it only happens for one user. This report is about current

Bug#406473: marked as done (installation-reports)

2007-01-11 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Processed: Re: Bug#406483: System fails to boot after installation

2007-01-11 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: severity 406483 normal Bug#406483: After base install computer hang Severity set to `normal' from `critical' retitle 406483 System fails to boot after installation Bug#406483: After base install computer hang Changed Bug title. thanks Stopping

Bug#406473: usb-storage

2007-01-11 Thread Werner Macho
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 error again - after a few reboots without problems the kernel is again starting usb-storage (from where?) and mixing up the HD so the server is again and still rendered in an unbootable state allthough successfully installed.. it depends on luck

Re: Bug#403639: Fix committed in svn repo

2007-01-11 Thread Frans Pop
Hi Loïc, Again our thanks for your quick and excellent response. On Tuesday 09 January 2007 20:12, Loïc Minier wrote: It's not trivial to backport, the upstream 2.10 code doesn't map so well with our 2.8.20 with backported directfb and I think it wouldn't be possible to pull the 2.10

Bug#406026: installation-reports: problems with X.org on a ThinkPad X60 (i945)

2007-01-11 Thread Luca Capello
Hello! Some updates... On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 02:40:17 +0100, Luca Capello wrote: here the report of the installation of an IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad X60 (model 1706-GMG [1]). Briefly, two major problems in three different installations [2]: the kbd and mouse modules weren't installed and the

Bug#405484: Further progress

2007-01-11 Thread Frans Pop
Hello Chris, Nice to see you keeping up your quest. On Tuesday 09 January 2007 23:03, Chris Carr wrote: [...] 4. Continue through detect and partition disks, timezone and clock, users and passwords, install base system, install kernel Looks good so far. 5. Switch back to console on F2 and

Re: Bug#403639: Fix committed in svn repo

2007-01-11 Thread Loïc Minier
On Thu, Jan 11, 2007, Frans Pop wrote: I have tested the udeb from that location by rebuilding the installer with as only change that udeb, and I can confirm that the memory leaks are (almost?) completely gone. I have done a full installation and not noticed any regressions or problems.

Bug#406399: installation-report: Dell Inspiron 6400: X server configuration problems

2007-01-11 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
Just a few followup notes: On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 04:35:41PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: - This was a network install and it took a while to download packages. There was no indication of download speed so I did wonder whether there was a problem with the mirror or not. No idea. Mirror is

Re: Bug#403639: Fix committed in svn repo

2007-01-11 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 11 January 2007 18:21, Loïc Minier wrote: I've uploaded these debs to unstable. OK, thanks. That means that we can get some more testing in before requesting migration. Let's hope that with Lenny we can switch to a truly integrated 2.10 soon. Cheers, FJP pgpyrVIXbB61R.pgp

Bug#406499: Problem with xorg configuration

2007-01-11 Thread Niels =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=B6ller
Package: installation-reports Boot method: CD Image version: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/iso-cd/debian-testing-i386-CD-1.iso Date: 2007-01-09, snapshot downloaded the same day. Machine: Laptop, Dell Latitude D600 Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.80GHz

Bug#406026: installation-reports: problems with X.org on a ThinkPad X60 (i945)

2007-01-11 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 11 January 2007 17:13, Luca Capello wrote: Moreover, I couldn't resize the / partition (created during the amd64 installation process), thus I installed the new i386 at the place of the amd64 swap. Then, booting into the i386 etch I could resize the amd64 partition. This is

Bug#406515: debian-installer-manual: Untranslatable entities for Enter, etc.

2007-01-11 Thread Christian Perrier
Package: debian-installer-manual Severity: normal These entities seem to be untranslatable, or at least they aren't translated in the French version of the manual (unchecked for yes/No, checked for Enter). !-- general things from installer -- !ENTITY enterkey keycapEnter/keycap !ENTITY MSG-YES

Bug#405579: PowerPC, prep-flavor: manual partitioning error

2007-01-11 Thread Ulrich Teichert
Hi, just finished testing the daily-build: cdimage/daily-builds/sid_d-i/20070110-2/powerpc/iso-cd/debian-testing-powerpc-netinst.iso And this bug is definitely squashed. I've deleted all partitions and was able to create different ones, installed on them and all was as it should be. AFAIK, we

Bug#405579: marked as done (PowerPC, prep-flavor: manual partitioning error)

2007-01-11 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Re: Debian has failed us

2007-01-11 Thread Christian Perrier
What I am interested in, as a long-time Debian user, is solving the greater issue of real-world Debian problems not being solved because some developers have raging egos and can't get along. You're right about that issue. signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Bug#406026: closed by Frans Pop [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bug#406026 installation-reports: problems with X.org on a ThinkPad X60 (i945))

2007-01-11 Thread Luca Capello
Hello! On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 18:49:51 +0100, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote: This is an automatic notification regarding your Bug report #406026: installation-reports: problems with X.org on a ThinkPad X60 (i945), which was filed against the installation-reports package. It has been closed

Bug#406539: problems with scsi modules

2007-01-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Package: debian 3.1 r4 i3 Boot method: CD Image version: 10/01/2007 http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/i386/jigdo-cd/debian-31r4-i386-binary-1.jigdo Date: 11/01/2007 Machine: dex Processor: amd athlon xp 2000+ Memory: 512 MB DDR Partitions: fat32 Output of lspci and lspci -n: Base

Processed: Re: Bug#406539: problems with scsi modules

2007-01-11 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: reassign 406539 installation-reports Bug#406539: problems with scsi modules Warning: Unknown package 'debian' Warning: Unknown package '3.1' Warning: Unknown package 'r4' Warning: Unknown package 'i3' Bug reassigned from package `debian 3.1 r4 i3' to

Re: Bug#403639: Fix committed in svn repo

2007-01-11 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 11 janvier 2007 à 18:30 +0100, Frans Pop a écrit : On Thursday 11 January 2007 18:21, Loïc Minier wrote: I've uploaded these debs to unstable. OK, thanks. That means that we can get some more testing in before requesting migration. Let's hope that with Lenny we can switch to a

Re: Debian has failed us

2007-01-11 Thread Joey Hess
Christian Perrier wrote: What I am interested in, as a long-time Debian user, is solving the greater issue of real-world Debian problems not being solved because some developers have raging egos and can't get along. You're right about that issue. Except that there's been zero evidence in

Bug#405549: installation-reports: Also ATI Rage

2007-01-11 Thread peter green
My ATI Rage was also not configured after install -- gdm fails and X reports no devices. Missing input and video drivers. ATI device is configured as agp. The desktop package doesn't seems to install the correct driver or detect it I guess. Easy fix -- I added the video and input

d-i broken as of yesterday with debian/testing + other 'unofficial' archives

2007-01-11 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
please see http://lkcl.net/d-i/ and look for kdedesktop class for background, in particular these: http://lkcl.net/d-i/etch/./classes/kdedesktop/preseed http://lkcl.net/d-i/etch/./classes/kdedesktop/late_script i'm doing a desktop install with the kind of stuff that i like,

Re: d-i broken as of yesterday with debian/testing + other 'unofficial' archives

2007-01-11 Thread Christian Perrier
# somebody added desktop to the defaults (bastards) This is an interesting mathod to start communication. Let's see if you get some results. signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Bug#406499: Problem with xorg configuration

2007-01-11 Thread Joey Hess
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I selected the desktop task during the installation process. This generated an xorg configuration file specifying the display driver ivtvdev, and this was also the only driver that was installed on the system. Then X failed to start, with an error message like No

Bug#406399: installation-report: Dell Inspiron 6400: X server configuration problems

2007-01-11 Thread Joey Hess
Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: I think I was aiming at either some indication of download speed, or some indication of the total data to be downloaded. Either would have told me that half an hour of downloading was normal. Download speed is reported for the main portion of the install. Example:

Re: d-i broken as of yesterday with debian/testing + other 'unofficial' archives

2007-01-11 Thread Joey Hess
i've tried this: # somebody added desktop to the defaults (bastards) d-i tasksel/first multiselect '' d-i tasksel/tasks multiselect '' it doesn't work. i've tried this: d-i tasksel/first multiselect d-i tasksel/tasks multiselect it doesn't

Re: d-i broken as of yesterday with debian/testing + other 'unofficial' archives

2007-01-11 Thread Joey Hess
Christian Perrier wrote: Let's see if you get some results. I strongly hate to have proven you wrong. Pressing D would have indeed been a better response. I mostly responded only for the benefit of the archive, and because I beleive in giving people a first chance even if they're showing their

Bug#406399: installation-report: Dell Inspiron 6400: X server configuration problems

2007-01-11 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 04:36:25PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: I think I was aiming at either some indication of download speed, or some indication of the total data to be downloaded. Either would have told me that half an hour of downloading was normal.

Re: RFC: warn user about first accounts privs

2007-01-11 Thread dann frazier
(btw, I don't subscribe to -boot, so a CC's are appreciated) Frans Pop said: It certainly cannot be committed anymore before the release of Etch as we have a string freeze (except in exceptional cases). k TBH, I don't see how a clear kernel/udev issue can be mitigated by something as

Bug#406399: installation-report: Dell Inspiron 6400: X server configuration problems

2007-01-11 Thread peter green
The initial debootstrap doesn't have download speed reported, but then, it's only a few dozen megabytes download. thats a pretty long wait for a dialup, isdn bri or very low end broadband user.

Re: d-i broken as of yesterday with debian/testing + other 'unofficial' archives

2007-01-11 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 05:44:34PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: hello joey! thanks ever so much for responding. phil has been telling me about the way that you've been 'absorbing' bits of hands-off, when he was developing it, until there was nothing left :) i've tried this: #

Re: RFC: warn user about first accounts privs

2007-01-11 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jan 11, 2007, at 5:47 PM, dann frazier wrote: I'm curious if I'm the only experienced admin who didn't notice and is surprised. I didn't notice for a while, and I was surprised to find out. I've been sysadmining UNIX for 25 years, and Linux for 10. Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Bug#406399: installation-report: Dell Inspiron 6400: X server configuration problems

2007-01-11 Thread Joey Hess
peter green wrote: The initial debootstrap doesn't have download speed reported, but then, it's only a few dozen megabytes download. thats a pretty long wait for a dialup, isdn bri or very low end broadband user. I know, I developed d-i for several years on dialup. :-) I'd love to get time

Re: d-i broken as of yesterday with debian/testing + other 'unofficial' archives

2007-01-11 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 05:44:34PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: FWIW, tasksel preseeding was entirely broken in d-i rc1; it's fixed in current daily builds. You didn't specify what installer image you're using, and you could easily be using a rc1 based image. double-checked: yep, very likely.

Re: d-i broken as of yesterday with debian/testing + other 'unofficial' archives

2007-01-11 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 05:44:34PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: i've tried this: # somebody added desktop to the defaults (bastards) d-i tasksel/first multiselect '' d-i tasksel/tasks multiselect '' it doesn't work. i've tried this: d-i

Re: d-i broken as of yesterday with debian/testing + other 'unofficial' archives

2007-01-11 Thread Joey Hess
Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: any idea where i can get the initrd.gz of the latest build? http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/d-i/images/daily/ -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: d-i broken as of yesterday with debian/testing + other 'unofficial' archives

2007-01-11 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 07:26:40PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: any idea where i can get the initrd.gz of the latest build? http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/d-i/images/daily/ http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/d-i/images/daily/netboot/debian-installer/i386/

Re: d-i broken as of yesterday with debian/testing + other 'unofficial' archives

2007-01-11 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 05:44:34PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: i've tried this: # somebody added desktop to the defaults (bastards) d-i tasksel/first multiselect '' d-i tasksel/tasks multiselect '' it doesn't work. i've tried this: d-i

Re: d-i broken as of yesterday with debian/testing + other 'unofficial' archives

2007-01-11 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 05:44:34PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: No, the whole point of d-i is to allow anyone to install Debian no matter what their skill level, this includes both providing the best possible defaults for naive users (including selecting desktop software for them by default if

oem-config

2007-01-11 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
oh btw i hacked oem-config from ubuntu onto debian, and it works. really i should do languagechooser-data as well. anyone interested let me know. l. -- -- lkcl.net - mad free software computer person, visionary and poet. -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: d-i broken as of yesterday with debian/testing + other 'unofficial' archives

2007-01-11 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
ok - is there a way to stop tasksel entirely from being run? for me, it serves no immediate purpose - but later on i _do_ want to run it, manually, and then fill-in-the-blanks. alternatively, is there a way anyone can think of for me to get my _own_ patched version of tasksel - over a netboot

Re: d-i broken as of yesterday with debian/testing + other 'unofficial' archives

2007-01-11 Thread Douglas Tutty
On Fri, Jan 12, 2007 at 01:48:49AM +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: ok - is there a way to stop tasksel entirely from being run? for me, it serves no immediate purpose - but later on i _do_ want to run it, manually, and then fill-in-the-blanks. alternatively, is there a way

Debian has failed us

2007-01-11 Thread Mathew Binkley
Greetings. I am the senior system administrator at Vanderbilt University's supercomputing center. We operate a 1500 processor cluster for researchers at Vanderbilt. Our current cluster is divided between 840 Intel/AMD x86 processors, and 672 IBM PowerPC 970FX processors. To date, we have

Re: Debian has failed us

2007-01-11 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 11 January 2007 18:40, Mathew Binkley wrote: Our current cluster is divided between 840 Intel/AMD x86 processors, and 672 IBM PowerPC 970FX processors. To date, we have required different operating systems on each architecture because of poor OS support for the PowerPC's. Etch

Re: Debian has failed us

2007-01-11 Thread Frans Pop
Allow me to correct myself on some minor points. On Thursday 11 January 2007 19:18, Frans Pop wrote: The daily build Etch images have been using this udeb for a bit more than a month. It was even a bit longer: installer images have included the module since about Nov 20. The delay in

Re: Debian has failed us

2007-01-11 Thread Mathew Binkley
Frans Pop wrote: Please check your facts before sending such mails: I did, by downloading the latest Debian Etch testing iso (which was regenerated on January 8, three days ago) and it failed at exactly the same place, with exactly the same error. I did not send my previous email (nor this

Re: Debian has failed us

2007-01-11 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 11 January 2007 19:29, Mathew Binkley wrote: I did, by downloading the latest Debian Etch testing iso (which was regenerated on January 8, three days ago) and it failed at exactly the same place, with exactly the same error. And we are supposed to guess that by telepathic means or

Re: Debian has failed us

2007-01-11 Thread Eric Cooper
On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 07:18:24PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: [...] False: it was not compiled into the standard Debian kernel. The installer does not use custom kernels. This was explained to you at the time. [...] Please check your facts before sending such mails: [...] I'll ignore the rest

Re: Debian has failed us

2007-01-11 Thread Mathew Binkley
Frans Pop wrote: And we are supposed to guess that by telepathic means or something? No. However, if the bug wasn't fixed when I asked in September and October, it won't magically vanish in the intervening time. Please file a new installation report [1] including (gzipped!) Since the bug

Re: Debian has failed us

2007-01-11 Thread Joey Hess
Mathew Binkley wrote: I did, by downloading the latest Debian Etch testing iso (which was regenerated on January 8, three days ago) By that date I can intuit that you downloaded a full size CD image, all of which still have the rc1 installer on them. If you had wanted to get a newer version of

Re: Debian has failed us

2007-01-11 Thread Joey Hess
Eric Cooper wrote: On the contrary, he attacked nobody personally, and his tone was not inflammatory. Sorry, but you have failed us is both a personal attack, and infalmatory. Much of the rest of Eric's mails were as well. I don't have a problem with Frans's responses. Your response made an

Re: Debian has failed us

2007-01-11 Thread Joey Hess
Joey Hess wrote: Much of the rest of Eric's mails were as well. Er, of course I was confusing Eric Cooper with Mathew Binkley. Apologies. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Debian has failed us

2007-01-11 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
On Thu, 2007-01-11 at 11:40 -0600, Mathew Binkley wrote: Greetings. I am the senior system administrator at Vanderbilt University's supercomputing center. We operate a 1500 processor cluster for researchers at Vanderbilt. Our current cluster is divided between 840 Intel/AMD x86 processors,

Re: d-i broken as of yesterday with debian/testing + other 'unofficial' archives

2007-01-11 Thread Christian Perrier
Christian Perrier wrote: Let's see if you get some results. I strongly hate to have proven you wrong. Pressing D would have indeed been a better response. I mostly responded only for the benefit of the archive, and because I beleive in giving people a first chance even if they're showing