Re: Final steps for Jessie Beta 1

2014-08-12 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Hi Cyril, Le mardi, 12 août 2014, 01.33:37 Cyril Brulebois a écrit : two parts in this mail: information for everyone, and action for debian-cd@ at the end. I wonder (but it's certainly too late now) whether it would make sense to unblock (+byhand FTP-Master's dance) win32-loader for the next

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-12 Thread Wookey
+++ Kees de Jong [2014-08-12 02:03 +0200]: Are we really comparing RAM here as if it were the 90's? How many people here use Android? Today it needs 512 MB to function properly. In two years that could be 1 or 2 GB and that's a mobile OS. How much RAM does your browser use? Too

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-12 Thread Wookey
+++ Anthony F McInerney [2014-08-12 00:02 +0100]: XFCE: total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem:506756 362468 144288 6568 22756 179264 -/+ buffers/cache: 160448 346308 Swap: 392188 0

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-12 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 12 août 2014 à 03:03 +0100, Anthony F McInerney a écrit : I had stated previously XFCE had started showing memory usage similar to gnome. This has quite obviously changed. I was wrong, and i'm posting it as a correction to my statement. You’re comparing apples and oranges. These

Re: Final steps for Jessie Beta 1

2014-08-12 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Didier 'OdyX' Raboud o...@debian.org (2014-08-12): Hi Cyril, Le mardi, 12 août 2014, 01.33:37 Cyril Brulebois a écrit : two parts in this mail: information for everyone, and action for debian-cd@ at the end. I wonder (but it's certainly too late now) whether it would make sense to

Re: Jessie: network link detection problems with Intel nics

2014-08-12 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Hi, and thanks for your report (even if the best way is filing a proper bug report in the BTS: https://www.debian.org/Bugs/). Floris Bos b...@je-eigen-domein.nl (2014-08-12): I'm having an odd problem on one of my servers in which the network link is not detected (error getting DHCP, going to

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-12 Thread Anthony F McInerney
On 12 August 2014 09:51, Wookey woo...@wookware.org wrote: Could you do MATE too please? MATE: (with mate-desktop-environment-extras) free ^[[C total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 506756 397480 109276 7096 58820 166076 -/+ buffers/cache: 172584 334172 Swap: 392188 0 392188 The ctrl

Bug#757920: debian-installer: vesamenu.c32 is not a COM32R image

2014-08-12 Thread Kim R. T. Hansen
Package: debian-installer Version: Severity: normal Tags: d-i Dear Maintainer, * What led up to the situation? I want to install Debian/testing on a new computer. * What exactly did you do (or not do) that was effective (or ineffective)? I upgraded the PXE installer for testing

Bug#757920: debian-installer: vesamenu.c32 is not a COM32R image

2014-08-12 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Hi Kim, and thanks for your detailed bug report. Kim R. T. Hansen k...@rthansen.dk (2014-08-12): Package: debian-installer Version: Severity: normal Tags: d-i Dear Maintainer, * What led up to the situation? I want to install Debian/testing on a new computer. * What

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-12 Thread Anthony F McInerney
We happen at work to have users with very important needs of 3D resources, so one of my colleagues conducted some performance tests with and without a compositor (the compositor being GNOME 3). It turns out that with a recent adapter, 3D applications are running a small bit faster under

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-12 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 12 août 2014 à 13:12 +0100, Anthony F McInerney a écrit : Virtualbox Results (no guest drivers installed) Glxgears is not a relevant 3D benchmark. But the funniest thing is that you did this test without any 3D acceleration, which is not representative at all of most real-world

Re: [Pkg-sysvinit-devel] Bug#757650: override: sysvinit:admin/optional sysvinit-core:admin/extra

2014-08-12 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 11 Aug 2014, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org (2014-08-11): That is https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=754987 https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/07/msg01509.html I know a workaround, but haven't figured out the underlying cause yet.

Re: Jessie: network link detection problems with Intel nics

2014-08-12 Thread Floris Bos
On 08/12/2014 01:15 PM, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Hi, and thanks for your report (even if the best way is filing a proper bug report in the BTS: https://www.debian.org/Bugs/). Floris Bos b...@je-eigen-domein.nl (2014-08-12): I'm having an odd problem on one of my servers in which the network

Re: Final steps for Jessie Beta 1

2014-08-12 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 01:33:37AM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Hi people, two parts in this mail: information for everyone, and action for debian-cd@ at the end. snip Bits of action: --- Steve, feel free to start a build whenever it's convenient for you (after the 1:52 dinstall +

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-12 Thread Anthony F McInerney
I enjoy the way you keep ignoring the relevant points, memory usage and performance regressions. And the way you benchmarked gnome against gnome. How about warsaw on xfce on the same hardware or your benchmarks pretty much show nothing except that your 'slight performance increase when using

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-12 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 12:22:01PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: I just had a look at an online hardware store. Out of their 682 laptops and 332 desktops: * 1 model has 1 GiB * 48 models have 2 GiB * 470 models have 4 GiB * 495 have 6 GiB or more Which means

Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-12 Thread Ian Jackson
Jordi Mallach writes (Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop): It's been around 9 months since tasksel changed (for real) the default desktop for new installs. At the time of the change, it was mentioned the issue would be revisited before the freeze, around debconf time. Fascinating

Bug#757941: busybox-static: DNS resolver stopped working in busybox-static version 1.22.0-7

2014-08-12 Thread Diederik de Haas
Package: busybox-static Version: 1:1.22.0-8 Severity: important When trying to ping an address, like debian.org, with busybox-static you get a ping: bad address 'debian.org' error. I knew that version 1.22.0-6 of busybox-static was working, so I also downloaded version 1.22.0-7 and 1.22.0-8 and

Bug#757941: busybox-static: DNS resolver stopped working in busybox-static version 1.22.0-7

2014-08-12 Thread Michael Tokarev
Control: tag -1 + confirmed 12.08.2014 19:30, Diederik de Haas wrote: Package: busybox-static Version: 1:1.22.0-8 Severity: important When trying to ping an address, like debian.org, with busybox-static you get a ping: bad address 'debian.org' error. Yes, this is what we have. Current

Processed: Re: Bug#757941: busybox-static: DNS resolver stopped working in busybox-static version 1.22.0-7

2014-08-12 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing control commands: tag -1 + confirmed Bug #757941 [busybox-static] busybox-static: DNS resolver stopped working in busybox-static version 1.22.0-7 Added tag(s) confirmed. -- 757941: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=757941 Debian Bug Tracking System Contact

Bug#757941: busybox-static: DNS resolver stopped working in busybox-static version 1.22.0-7

2014-08-12 Thread Michael Tokarev
12.08.2014 21:16, Michael Tokarev wrote: jessie does not work. Also, it is specific to amd64 arch, it does not happen on i386 (from 2 variants of x86 arches). No, i386 jessie does not work too. It was a very old jessie32 chroot here where I tried to build it and it worked. So it looks like

Bug#757941: busybox-static: DNS resolver stopped working in busybox-static version 1.22.0-7

2014-08-12 Thread Diederik de Haas
On Tuesday 12 August 2014 21:16:06 Michael Tokarev wrote: Also, it is specific to amd64 arch, it does not happen on i386 (from 2 variants of x86 arches). It's not just limited to amd64, since I encountered the issue on raspbian for the Raspberry Pi, which is somewhere between armel and armhf.

Bug#757941: busybox-static: DNS resolver stopped working in busybox-static version 1.22.0-7

2014-08-12 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Michael Tokarev m...@tls.msk.ru (2014-08-12): Control: tag -1 + confirmed 12.08.2014 19:30, Diederik de Haas wrote: Package: busybox-static Version: 1:1.22.0-8 Severity: important When trying to ping an address, like debian.org, with busybox-static you get a ping: bad address

Bug#757941: busybox-static: DNS resolver stopped working in busybox-static version 1.22.0-7

2014-08-12 Thread Michael Tokarev
12.08.2014 21:34, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Smells like a possible compiler optimization bug? (The relevant code might be buggy and falling into undefined behaviour; meaning not a compiler bug.) Should be easy to check by building at -O0. Nope. This is getaddrinfo() function. So it is glibc,

Bug#757956: choose-mirror: no default choice in text mode once the country is selected

2014-08-12 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Package: choose-mirror Version: 2.57 Severity: normal Hi, when using choose-mirror in graphical mode, picking France leads to the default selection of ftp.fr.debian.org; however this doesn't happen in the text-based installer, where there's no default value. I know frontends are different but

Artwork for jessie?

2014-08-12 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Hello desktop people, Jessie is approaching, it would be nice to know what's going to happen for this release. If there's no new artwork I suppose it's OK to stick to the current one, but stating that in advance of the freeze would be nice. :) Mraw, KiBi. signature.asc Description: Digital

Bug#757711: netcfg: promptly kills dhclient, deconfigures interface

2014-08-12 Thread Philipp Kern
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 02:45:25AM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: That I don't know. Maybe try and compare with netcfg + dhcp client du jour on Linux, and see whether netcfg's behaviour is different in both cases, or the dhcp client's one, or the kernel's one. In the end there's a lot of

Bug#757920: debian-installer: vesamenu.c32 is not a COM32R image

2014-08-12 Thread Ron
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 02:00:12PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Hi Kim, and thanks for your detailed bug report. Kim R. T. Hansen k...@rthansen.dk (2014-08-12): Package: debian-installer Version: Severity: normal Tags: d-i Dear Maintainer, * What led up to the

Re: Artwork for jessie?

2014-08-12 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On mar., 2014-08-12 at 21:18 +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Hello desktop people, Jessie is approaching, it would be nice to know what's going to happen for this release. If there's no new artwork I suppose it's OK to stick to the current one, but stating that in advance of the freeze would

Bug#757711: netcfg: promptly kills dhclient, deconfigures interface

2014-08-12 Thread Steven Chamberlain
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 02:45:25AM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: That I don't know. Maybe try and compare with netcfg + dhcp client du jour on Linux, and see whether netcfg's behaviour is different in both cases, or the dhcp client's one, or the kernel's one. netcfg kills the running DHCP

Bug#757711: netcfg: promptly kills dhclient, deconfigures interface

2014-08-12 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org (2014-08-12): Except - I'm not sure how heavily systemd is going to feature in d-i for jessie or jessie+1? Last I checked we were using busybox init… Mraw, KiBi. signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Artwork for jessie?

2014-08-12 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 09:18:35PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Hello desktop people, Jessie is approaching, it would be nice to know what's going to happen for this release. If there's no new artwork I suppose it's OK to stick to the current one, but stating that in advance of the freeze

Re: Artwork for jessie?

2014-08-12 Thread Onsemeliot
The problem might be the process. Last time there where loads of proposals, but a very awkward selection mode. I guess I'm not the only one frustrated by it. So there would be loads of not yet used proposals left, if we want to go for something new:

Re: Artwork for jessie?

2014-08-12 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
There are new ones @ https://wiki.debian.org/DebianArt/Themes On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Onsemeliot onsemel...@riseup.net wrote: The problem might be the process. Last time there where loads of proposals, but a very awkward selection mode. I guess I'm not the only one frustrated by it.

Re: Artwork for jessie?

2014-08-12 Thread Vincent Blut
Le mar. 12 août 2014 à 22:13, Paul Tagliamonte paul...@debian.org a écrit : There are new ones @ https://wiki.debian.org/DebianArt/Themes Hey Paul, What do you think about the one named Lines? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe.

Re: Artwork for jessie?

2014-08-12 Thread Adrien Aubourg
Heya, That would be my personal choice, excepting that the logo has been slightly reshaped. Gladly, the author seems to allow the use of the original logo. But again, as for previous releases, there is no try to do a « better » (understand different) integration with gtk/qt themes, as well as

Re: Artwork for jessie?

2014-08-12 Thread Vincent Blut
Le mar. 12 août 2014 à 22:41, Adrien Aubourg adrien.aubo...@gmail.com a écrit : Heya, That would be my personal choice, excepting that the logo has been slightly reshaped. Gladly, the author seems to allow the use of the original logo. Ditto, I really like it. Like you, I am quite

Re: Artwork for jessie?

2014-08-12 Thread Vincent Blut
Le mar. 12 août 2014 à 22:49, Onsemeliot onsemel...@riseup.net a écrit : On Tue, 2014-08-12 at 20:35 +0002, Vincent Blut wrote: What do you think about the one named Lines? I know you didn't ask me, but I still tell, what I think: Lines looks great, but I wouldn't distort the original

Re: Artwork for jessie?

2014-08-12 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 09:00:21PM +0002, Vincent Blut wrote: Le mar. 12 août 2014 à 22:49, Onsemeliot onsemel...@riseup.net a écrit : On Tue, 2014-08-12 at 20:35 +0002, Vincent Blut wrote: What do you think about the one named Lines? I know you didn't ask me, but I still tell, what I

Re: Artwork for jessie?

2014-08-12 Thread Onsemeliot
On Tue, 2014-08-12 at 20:35 +0002, Vincent Blut wrote: What do you think about the one named Lines? I know you didn't ask me, but I still tell, what I think: Lines looks great, but I wouldn't distort the original logo. It might be hard to actually position the logo like proposed in most

Re: Artwork for jessie?

2014-08-12 Thread Vincent Blut
Le mar. 12 août 2014 à 23:05, Paul Tagliamonte paul...@debian.org a écrit : Sounds like Lines has consensus. Fair enough; let's go with it, but we should revert the logo back to the original aspect. Which I do realize breaks the entire concept. -T Juliette, could we have a look of your theme

Re: Artwork for jessie?

2014-08-12 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
I thought lines was one of the most clever, and the changing of the logo makes sense (theme reminds me of the golden ratio :) ), I'm not sure we can do that :( Sucks, was a leader in my mind. I was going to write it up more, but I really like Sharp a lot. -T On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 4:51 PM,

Re: Artwork for jessie?

2014-08-12 Thread Anthony F McInerney
I adapted Serenity for my live-spin of debian jessie with e17. https://a.fsdn.com/con/app/proj/n00bix/screenshots/build2-32bit-v2.png The menu button is actually the DVD face.

Re: Artwork for jessie?

2014-08-12 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
Sounds like Lines has consensus. Fair enough; let's go with it, but we should revert the logo back to the original aspect. Which I do realize breaks the entire concept. -T On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Ulrich rusty@mailbox.org wrote: It is beautiful. Regarding unused proposals: If

Processing of win32-loader_0.7.5_amd64.changes

2014-08-12 Thread Debian FTP Masters
Upload to ftp-master.debian.org failed Error messages: Can't use an undefined value as a symbol reference at /usr/share/perl/5.14/Net/FTP/dataconn.pm line 54. The upload will be retried in 0:30:00 Greetings, Your Debian queue daemon (running on host coccia.debian.org) -- To

Re: Artwork for jessie?

2014-08-12 Thread Steven Chamberlain
On 12/08/14 21:13, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: There are new ones @ https://wiki.debian.org/DebianArt/Themes Wow, already. Some are pretty spectacular. Is there time for a last call via debian-devel-announce@, allowing maybe 1-2 weeks to have proposals finalised on that page, any latecomers added

Re: Artwork for jessie?

2014-08-12 Thread Steven Chamberlain
On 12/08/14 22:05, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: Sounds like Lines has consensus. Oh. I only just received this from listserver after sending my other mail. I guess it's too late. Regards, -- Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org

Bug#757711: netcfg: promptly kills dhclient, deconfigures interface

2014-08-12 Thread Steven Chamberlain
tags 757711 + patch thanks I'd like to propose this patch to netcfg as a fix for this bug: https://bugs.debian.org/757711#52 On 12/08/14 20:53, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org (2014-08-12): Except - I'm not sure how heavily systemd is going to feature in d-i for

Processing of win32-loader_0.7.5_amd64.changes

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Processing of win32-loader_0.7.5_amd64.changes

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Re: Artwork for jessie?

2014-08-12 Thread Support - MediaWorks7
I agree with Franz and Adrien... overall, there needs to be a desire or commitment to allowing a more modern style, so that the development required to implement it is no longer a 'de-selector'. A good while back, we made https://wiki.debian.org/DebianArt/Themes/7th-element For us, it was only

Processed: Re: Bug#751704: partman-base 173: partman overwrites parts of u-boot

2014-08-12 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing control commands: tag -1 patch Bug #751704 [src:partman-base] partman-base 173: partman overwrites parts of u-boot Added tag(s) patch. -- 751704: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=751704 Debian Bug Tracking System Contact ow...@bugs.debian.org with problems -- To

Bug#751704: partman-base 173: partman overwrites parts of u-boot

2014-08-12 Thread Karsten Merker
Control: tag -1 patch On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 09:44:12PM +0200, Karsten Merker wrote: [On sunxi-based systems, upon writing the partition table, partman overwrites parts of u-boot which are located between the end of the partition table and the beginning of the first partition.] Hello, the

Bug#745262: console-setup: Caps lock doesn't take effect on øæå (Danish characters)

2014-08-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Anton Zinoviev, le Wed 06 Aug 2014 20:39:02 +0300, a écrit : On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 10:35:23PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: Andreas, le Sun 20 Apr 2014 03:30:13 +0200, a écrit : On the Linux console the caps lock key doesn't take effect on the Danish characters æøå. With caps lock

Bug#751704: partman-base 173: partman overwrites parts of u-boot

2014-08-12 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 12:38:58AM +0200, Karsten Merker wrote: If there are no objections, I would like apply it to the partman-base git repository. Please adhere to local coding style, including indentation, spacing, and use or otherwise of tabs; it really makes things easier to follow later.

Bug#757552: marked as done (Guided and manual LVM fails)

2014-08-12 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Wed, 13 Aug 2014 00:27:39 +0100 with message-id 20140812232739.ga14...@riva.ucam.org and subject line Re: Bug#757552: Guided and manual LVM fails has caused the Debian Bug report #757552, regarding Guided and manual LVM fails to be marked as done. This means that you claim that

Processed: tagging 756065

2014-08-12 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: tags 756065 + pending Bug #756065 [installation-guide] installation-guide: (D.3.7) For jessie ssh root login with password is by default impossible Added tag(s) pending. thanks Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance.

Re: Bad link on Debian Installer-dev page

2014-08-12 Thread David Prévot
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, Thanks for your interest in the Debian web site. Le 04/08/2014 19:21, Will Brokenbourgh a écrit : On the Debian Installer-dev page: https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ there is a link to 'known issues':

Bug#757985: kfreebsd: hang with ENOSPC after a few components are loaded

2014-08-12 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Package: debian-installer Version: 20140802 Severity: important User: debian-...@lists.debian.org Usertags: kfreebsd Hi, with a wheezy/amd64/kvm-based setup (hda is ~5GB, RAM is 1GB), the following images don't work at all, with the following message on vt1: | /: write failed, filesystem is full

Bug#757988: kfreebsd: troubles with dhcp (configuration going away)

2014-08-12 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Package: debian-installer Version: 20140802 Severity: important User: debian-...@lists.debian.org Usertags: kfreebsd Hi, I know this is tracked as #757711 but I'm trying to get a comprehensive list of issues affecting kfreebsd-*, along with possible solutions for those using images. So, using

Bug#757986: kfreebsd: multiple inappropriate ioctl for device prompts

2014-08-12 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Package: debian-installer Version: 20140802 Severity: important User: debian-...@lists.debian.org Usertags: kfreebsd Hi, it seems the following warning still hasn't been decided upon (harmless, should go away; or important, should stay), and it pops up multiple times: | Could not get identity of

Bug#757987: kfreebsd: cannot create swap space

2014-08-12 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Package: debian-installer Version: 20140802 Severity: important User: debian-...@lists.debian.org Usertags: kfreebsd Hi, using debian-jessie-DI-b1-kfreebsd-amd64-netinst.iso with a single (kvm) disc, I can't get past the automatic partioning step due to a failure to create a swap partition on