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On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 11:16:17AM -0600, Erik Andersen wrote:
On Mon Sep 03, 2001 at 04:48:03AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
On Sun, Sep 02, 2001 at 11:48:13PM -0600, Erik Andersen wrote:
I consider it a full replacement, and with have now had several releases
with the busybox ash
BB_FEATURE_WGET_AUTHENTICATION
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MUST be at least as good as real ash.
we can also save about 10 or 12k using the ash udeb as its compiled
-Os instead of -O2.
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correct we still need tar, for that and for the `report a
problem' function in dbootstrap.
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On Sun, Sep 02, 2001 at 05:52:26PM +0200, Goswin Brederlow wrote:
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The root disk is currently too bloated, on pmac and chrp its already
too large to fit on a 1.44MB floppy.
Did you use mklibs.sh or mklibs.py? If the former try the later.
whatever
On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 07:30:07AM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
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we can also save about 10 or 12k using the ash udeb as its compiled
-Os instead of -O2.
Actually, most of the saving only applies to i386 as it comes from
my figures are from a powerpc
of this was my mistakes and how much was
inaccuracies in the docs, but at least nvsetenv line is incrrect, that's
for sure.
you should not have run that command, thats why your machine did not
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/tty $TTYOUT
this will be quite harmful on boot-floppies since there is no user
interaction. Make System Bootable will take care of the steps
normally done by liloconfig.
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in the list of Packages files it requires.
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+directly from an ext2 partition, as well as dual-booting with MacOS.
please add a note that BootX is NOT supported on NewWorlds and MUST
NOT be used on them.
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, not boot-floppies. (and also a netbase problem
for not allowing the removal of the netkit-inetd package)
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a release of woody boot-floppies.
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is always automatically
included on CD1 so I have no modifications to do to close this bug.
we will have to put basedebs.tgz somewhere else then to prevent it
from going on the CDs then.
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to check.
all boot-floppies are doing right now is setting boot-device and
installing the quik bootblock, nothing more. that will not be enough
on most machines (and thus they will be rendered unbootable), but
should work some of the time on 7200, 7300 and 7600s.
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nobody has yet provided a convincing argument for putting the
tarball on the CDs.
^^^
^^^
see that says **tarball**
it does NOT say *floppy images*
So I'd say
installs' that is totally absurd,
unless of course these `peice of crap x86 boxes' you keep talking
about have 24MB floppy drives.
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them download it all.
your examples only talk about floppy installs, fine put the base
floppy images on the CD. but the tarball itself has no business being
there.
nobody has yet provided a convincing argument for putting the
tarball on the CDs.
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On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 11:22:31AM -0700, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote:
On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 01:43:09PM -0400, Debian Installer wrote:
* Ethan Benson
- PowerMac uses linux (read i386) keycodes now, use i386 keymaps.
This still needs a fixed -pmac kernel, but console-data in woody
the entire rest of the powerpc port. Should I take
this to mean I need to build new kernel packages, then?
yes a bug is already filed against kernel-image-2.2.19-pmac
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*no one* has even tried a basedebs install yet, eg.
rubbish, do you think i would have commited the code to dbootstrap if
i had not tested it? i have done several installs, just did an i386
one last night, it works very well.
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for this file?
the base tarball should never be used on CDs, nor should it be present
on them.
debootstrap should use the normal debian archive found on CD1.
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requires junk
like ppp or pppoe)
futhermore basedebs.tgz does not contain a root filesystem, all it
contains is /var/cache/apt/archives (with all the .debs that make up
the base system) and /var/lib/apt/lists (with the Packages files).
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/sbin/fsck.{xfs,reiserfs} (in xfs' case its a copy of
/bin/true, i don't know about reiser).
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you can save alot of space by compiling parted with --without-readline
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and
.finderinfo directories so they will never show up in in the
dbootstrap listings. see the changelog.
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this package can too since the correct
way to do this kind of package is a .udeb.
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into with this is apt-get adds the
archetecture to the filename, the filename on the mirror do not have
that. i don't know whether the glop of shell scripts care about that
or not..
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on
upgrades.
so remove it from the package in woody and new installs (which don't
ever need it) will not get this useless and broken script, old
upgrades still using it will be unaffected since it won't be removed.
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successfully configured anyway, even though it actually isn't.
thats because dhcp-client sucks. when it fails it happily terminates
with exit status 0 which means success. newwer versions of b-f
supposedly try other methods to tell whether it really worked or not.
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' (powerpc, sparc, m68k, i386 ...) dbootstrap
should have done this (you can tell by looking at the log on tty3).
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looked through the
sources from cvs for the boot floppies but failed to find the place
where 'Malformed' message is coming from.
debootstrap
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busybox has alot of cruft turned on that doesn't need to be, going
through that and finding potential applets to kill would be useful.
its probably a good idea to ask on the list first so the other
archtectures can comment on whether something can go or not.
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to have no trouble with this inside of
boot-floppies build.
are you sure your not trying to build on potato? or a very outdated
testing/unstable?
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sources.list, but i fail to see
the point of having both unstable and testing in there anyway.
your only other option perhaps is fixing --force-yes (which is
currently broken), but that may not solve depends anyway.
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On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 10:24:04AM -0700, George Pongas wrote:
Alt-F4 shows:
...
Freeing unused kernel memory: 152k freed
Segmentation fault
Segmentation fault
wget is segfaulting, known problem with busybox wget.
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drives are absolutly the slowest media still in use in
computers today.
what can i do?
boot from something else such as network or CD or the hard disk.
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subdirectory.
you of course have to build a current cvs version of boot-floppies,
3.0.7 won't work. i have a powermac build available at the above uri.
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message is overwriten by that window, console-3
only tells me there as a problem, like in the error window). Checking the
odd the output of tar should have been sent to syslog since its run in
execlog(). more likely it was a kernel message.
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basedebs.tgz: http://penguinppc.org/~eb/debian/$arch/basedebs.tgz
basedebs floppies: http://penguinppc.org/~eb/debian/$arch/images-1.44/*
arch = powerpc|sparc|m68k|i386
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nebulous `it doesn't werk for me' reports, as dan said. pump
generally worked fine on potato bootfloppies.
So in fact the new version might be too big for boot-floppies. And
the old version doesn't work on powerpc... so?
fix pump and use it on all archs.
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On Sun, Jul 15, 2001 at 01:44:46PM -0700, Matt Kraai wrote:
The following patch checks the input for RFC 608 compliance. OK
to apply?
looks good. there should probably be a similar patch made for
hostname too, IMO anyway.
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/powerpc/bf-cvs-snapshot-current/
when I untar the basedebs, I get a few files in /target/var/apt/lists (which
don't do that.
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were on powerpc for some reason
i build m68k basedebs tarballs and floppy images. i can't build
boot-floppies since i don't have any m68k hardware. [0]
[0] well except for my powerbook 540c which 1: won't boot 2: is
exceedinly resistent to *nix assimilation.
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in the
debootstrap package, or whether it should be packaged separatly or
simply not at all.
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enough to where a real person
really needs to do it. AFAIK a real person for each archetecture is
responible for building and uploading new versions of b-f, not any
build daemon.
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think its a bad idea to start mucking around in the build
system this late in the game. especially given this utility has AFAIK
zero testing in building b-f root disks. and there are more important
problems to deal with anyway.
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too. (in the
images-1.44 subdirectory).
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filesystem (even if you didn't run into
this during install you would later).
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is statically configured.
this is the dhcp-client installed by debootstrap less then a week ago,
current woody.
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and does, see the bug report.
if the network is statically configured dhcp should /not/ run.
why is this so difficult? its much faster to just fix the fscking bug
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problem with dhcp-client is it prevents manual network
configuration since the maintainer apparently won't remove or alter
the initscript that runs it on every boot. /etc/network/interfaces is
how we do things since potato its time to move on. (bug filed over a
year ago).
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version in the
pool. the pool can contain 3 versions of a package at any given time:
one for stable, one for testing and one for unstable.
Thanks. I'll try 3.0.7 on Monday if I can find it. Can anyone give me the
address?
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upload sorry.
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debootstrap with the args we want, dbootstrap will be none
the wiser and configures the base correctly after debootstrap exits.
substitute /target/basedebs.tgz with whatever the path is to the
basedebs.tgz tarball.
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On Sat, Jul 07, 2001 at 02:16:49PM -0700, Chris Tillman wrote:
The 2.2 CD might not be bootable on an iMac?
2.2r3 CDs should be bootable on all newworlds.
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--dest-dir $R/lib
$EXECUTABLES
and move the rm -rf $E to after mklibs has run.
comments?
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that and using the current 1.22 version, according to the changelog
lots of endianess bugs have been fixed.
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installed first, second, and so on? I'm
undereducated about this whole thing, and I haven't really found anything
that helps. Perhaps if I understand this well enough I'll write some docs?
talk to Chris Tillman, he is rewriting all of the documentation.
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and pointless ramblings, the compact flavour
(potato) worked for him. (Followed by him again saying Debian should
just copy RH's installer... hrmph.)
send him back to redhat, we don't need trolls like that wasting our time.
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be supported for
hard disk and NFS. not cdrom or network. probably floppy too.
mostly looks ok to me. do you think the newworld make system bootable
stuff is clear enough as is?
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and drivers unless its
in a specific directory structure, i never have to do this but...
make copies of the files you got from my b-f-cvs directory and put
them in:
master/install/powermac/images-1.44/
there is no base.tgz, you install base over http now.
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(AOL supplies more then enough
coasters).
the CD with a final woody installer when it comes out, but I'm worried about
not being able to read it when I go to the destination computer.
cd-rw is readable on all newworld macs.
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can make perfectly
bootable and installable woody CDs with debian-cd and the latest
bootfloppies on Debian mirrors?
im not sure.
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idea though since dbootstrap sends
extra info to syslog and syslog goes to tty3
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, iBooks, G4s etc), and it only works in woody
boot-floppies, not potato's.
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/nfs
installs rather then CDs...
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for it, powerpc should have debootstrap tomorrow now
that the buildd builds it. other archs need to catch up anyway. (who
else even has b-f working yet?)
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, as i386 is the only one with a 0.1.14 deb
atm.
Worse, it uses 'seq' which is not included in root.bin
aj is going to remove that dependency.
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is xP which requires about a
paragraph of text to coherently explain. thats what mac-fdisk-basics
is for, read it.
BTW: it's been in the manpage since the beginning.
as well as mac-fdisk-basics.
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Indeed, it's not at all true for SCSI. We should try not to complain
about booting off of any scsi disk.
ill remove the check for non-first scsi disks. it will still bitch if
you start putting root on a slave IDE.
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. what filesystem is that? if its hfs try something
real, hfs is a flaky.
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it until it is.
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On Tue, Jun 26, 2001 at 06:09:18PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 06:15:02AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
the tarball must contain cache/apt/archives/ and lib/apt/lists (or
state/apt/lists).
So anyway, I'm adding this atm, somewhat modified. You'll need
a tarball
that with ln and a
tiny bit of simple shell scripting. (see yabootconfig for a similar
example)
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on penguinppc.org (assuming debootstrap can deal with the
broken distro running there..) as soon as i get my script fixed up.
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the table, look for the Apple_Free where
you want the next partition to start use its partition number like so:
startblock: 2p
see http://penguinppc.org/usr/ybin/doc/mac-fdisk-basics.shtml
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, which they found
by rtfm.
the fm is here: http://penguinppc.org/usr/ybin/doc/mac-fdisk-basics.shtml
fwiw mac-fdisk does mention the 500m 800k and such shortcuts for the
length argument.
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that was enough for one night...
you hardware has said enough of that for one(all) night(s) im afraid :(
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, but things are looking
good so far.
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On Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 12:26:06AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
the remaining problems are:
one other thing, dhcp/bootp network configuration failed, i have only
a bootp server which works fine for netbooting this machine, and
potato boot-floppies liked it fine for network configuration (even
On Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 03:38:32PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
Ethan Benson wrote:
man-db would be a good one, otherwise users never get the opertunity
to turn on caching.
Man-db is another one that any sane use of tasksel or dselect will pull
in automatically, so I don't think debootstrap
, since it seems like a
sensible thing to do.
i hope you ask first, for people with multiple machines behind a slow
connection its very useful to run apt-move on the apt package cache.
i do NOT want it blown away automatically without being asked first
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, only the first one was still
in use from the previous try. I didn't check the source, but does the
script explicitely look for loop0? That would not be so nice then. Restarted
yet another build...
we could probably work around mount's deficiency, but why not fix
mount?
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the finish documentation... looking good so far.
have you tried running:
losetup /dev/loop0 to see if anything is really using it? and if so:
losetup -d /dev/loop0 (hopefully after making sure whatever was using
really isn't anymore).
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wishes it so)
postfix (many people prefer it)
some tiny localhost only mta that just gets cron's mail delivered properly.
Is this workable?
i think that makes more sense, i don't really see why we have to have
a full MTA in the base system (that is what is installed by debootstrap).
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do you have a separate /boot partition? the only time a symlink gets
created in /boot is when that is the case. what does the /vmlinuz
symlink look like? i suspect its the same since the /boot symlink is
simply a relativized version of the /vmlinuz link.
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. Just reporting it informally here for early
warning.
you have this problem too eh. strange.
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to extract the tarball itself, that
seems natural to me (debootstrap gets .debs, from file:// or http://
or ftp:// so why not extract a thoeretical tarball as well?)
and i have learned the LESS code we have to screw with in dbootstrap
the better.
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partitions.
See 81029 about some suggestions here. We should add info on
configuring the mouse, configuring CD-ROM (if not already),
configuring X11. These should each be new sections.
a note about this fscking /dev/input nonsense..
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task does not use b-f, so these can be built/kept somewhere else.
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debootstrap/debootstrap-0.1.12/debootstrap
--- debootstrap.orig/debootstrap-0.1.12/debootstrap Mon Jun
directories are not present in base-files (/etc/apm
for example). the base-files extraction already appears to fix alot
of these, but not all, thats why busybox tar must behave itself.
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On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 06:15:02AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
i wrote a basic script to build a basedebs.tgz its included in this
patch. for this script to work i needed a --download-only option to
debootstrap, so i added that as well.
note this script isn't perfect right now, it could
On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 02:34:03PM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
Gross or not, my powerbook G3 is effectively unbootable with the
vmode=atyfb... bootargs. So it kinda *has* to be done, IMHO.
so you finally got it booting via quik? what configuration did that
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create insecure systems because
busybox tar is still broken (just not as badly as before). see bug #101169.
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