Bug#773763: task-mate-desktop: Should install libreoffice-gnome

2014-12-26 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le Wed 24 Dec 2014 17:49:08 +0100, a écrit : This would probably need to be added to other desktop tasks too: task-lxde-desktop, task-xfce-desktop, task-cinnamon-desktop, I forgot to mention the additional sizes for those: LXDE: 350KiB XFCE: 350KiB Cinnamon: it's actually

Bug#773763: task-mate-desktop: Should install libreoffice-gnome

2014-12-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL, le Tue 23 Dec 2014 01:06:20 +0100, a écrit : * What was the outcome of this action? LibreOffice was announced inaccessible by Orca. The solution: add libreoffice-gnome to the automatically installed packages with task-mate-desktop. A quick measurement

Re: Bug#771607: Re : Re: Re : Re: Bug#771607: unblock: brltty/5.2~20141018-2

2014-12-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jonathan Wiltshire, le Fri 12 Dec 2014 21:37:10 +, a écrit : This discussion seems to have run into the sand. Indeed. Is there any news? Well, nothing more than what was said, actually, to sum it up: - MATE is a bit more accessible than Gnome with the Orca screen reader - MATE however

Re: vt2-6 still not available with base system

2014-12-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Simon McVittie, le Fri 12 Dec 2014 16:18:13 +, a écrit : On 12/12/14 15:26, Michael Biebl wrote: Since apparently Conditions can't be used on targets, I came up with a slightly different idea, using a service, which triggers the start of getty on tty2-6 in absence of

Bug#772461: Update installation-guide for no separated /usr

2014-12-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Baptiste Jammet, le Sun 07 Dec 2014 14:34:04 +0100, a écrit : I think that this will need some rewording in the installation manual. Indeed, thanks! Samuel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Bug#771576: tasksel: tasks=mate still also installs gnome

2014-12-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Control: tags -1 + patch Hello, Here is a tested patch. Samuel commit ada61ef5b9fb3c89e415c824837883fee87625b0 Author: Samuel Thibault sthiba...@debian.org Date: Mon Dec 8 01:03:30 2014 +0100 When a desktop is preseeded, only enable that desktop. diff --git a/debian/changelog b/debian

Re: vt2-6 still not available with base system

2014-12-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Michael Biebl, le Thu 04 Dec 2014 00:10:57 +0100, a écrit : Am 03.12.2014 um 22:42 schrieb Samuel Thibault: Simon McVittie, le Sun 09 Nov 2014 20:43:36 +, a écrit : I'm very tempted to say systemd in Debian should just make these 5 symlinks to preserve traditional Debian behaviour

Re: vt2-6 still not available with base system

2014-12-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
Simon McVittie, le Sun 09 Nov 2014 20:43:36 +, a écrit : I'm very tempted to say systemd in Debian should just make these 5 symlinks to preserve traditional Debian behaviour, at least for jessie. It doesn't really even need to run systemctl, it can just use ln -s or whatever. People who

Bug#768657: [Pkg-sysvinit-devel] Bug#768657: sysvinit: Please provide xen virtual console in inittab

2014-12-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
I'm not sure to understand what the original bug report is about precisely. AIUI, it is about the following scenario: 1) install debian in a Xen domU, ending up with systemd installed by default 2) install sysvinit-core to switch back to sysvinit boot 3) end up having to fix this and that to get

Bug#769407: Should set up Grub for serial and console

2014-12-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
Control: reassign -1 grub-installer Geert Stappers, le Wed 03 Dec 2014 22:35:21 +0100, a écrit : On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 02:19:50PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: Following an install with auto console=tty0 console=ttyS0,115200n8 on the command line and using yesterday's amd64 daily

Bug#769406: Serial console not set up after serial install

2014-12-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Geert Stappers, le Wed 03 Dec 2014 22:30:39 +0100, a écrit : Jan 1 21:50:07 kernel: [0.00] Command line: BOOT_IMAGE=http://alpaca.gpm.stappers.nl/d-i/jessie/amd64/linux vga=normal console=ttyS0,19200,n8 -- initrd=http://alpaca.gpm.stappers.nl/d-i/jessie/amd64/initrd.gz

Bug#768657: [Pkg-sysvinit-devel] Bug#768657: sysvinit: Please provide xen virtual console in inittab

2014-12-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
Gedalya, le Wed 03 Dec 2014 17:22:41 -0500, a écrit : On 12/03/2014 05:12 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote: I'm not sure to understand what the original bug report is about precisely. AIUI, it is about the following scenario: 1) install debian in a Xen domU, ending up with systemd installed

Re: Bug#771607: unblock: brltty/5.2~20141018-2

2014-12-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Cyril Brulebois, le Mon 01 Dec 2014 09:41:20 +0100, a écrit : As it seems that Jessie will install the gnome desktop by default, I would like to upload the attached changes. The idea is that the most accessible desktop we have in Debian is MATE Why are we learning about this only now?

Re: Bug#771607: unblock: brltty/5.2~20141018-2

2014-12-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Cyril Brulebois, le Mon 01 Dec 2014 10:39:17 +0100, a écrit : With the tasksel/3.25 upload and the default switch back to gnome, it looked to me that the accessibility side was taken care of. What do you mean by taken care of? If you mean fixing them, the few accessibility issues that

Re: Bug#771607: unblock: brltty/5.2~20141018-2

2014-12-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Cyril Brulebois, le Mon 01 Dec 2014 11:36:06 +0100, a écrit : It seemed clear to me, except that since at the time the poll was done MATE was actually not among the choices in the evaluation chart (and not even a task), Jean-Philippe made it a special case. !! “[…] I think Debian won't

Re: Bug#771607: unblock: brltty/5.2~20141018-2

2014-12-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Cyril Brulebois, le Mon 01 Dec 2014 11:36:06 +0100, a écrit : Well, I don't remember an announcement about it. I didn't know that the choice had been actually really settled,[...] Well, you could have asked; Well, that's what I am doing. I guess my timeout value was just too large.

Re: Re : Re: Bug#771607: unblock: brltty/5.2~20141018-2

2014-12-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
MENGUAL Jean-Philippe, le Mon 01 Dec 2014 12:06:35 +0100, a écrit : and MATE is much more suit when we try to have a universal desktop with braille, speech and magnifying, in particular due to its visual customization capabilities, disappeared in gnome. Mmm, but do we have magnification

Re: Re : Re: Re : Re: Bug#771607: unblock: brltty/5.2~20141018-2

2014-12-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
MENGUAL Jean-Philippe, le Mon 01 Dec 2014 13:14:07 +0100, a écrit : - Samuel Thibault sthiba...@debian.org a écrit : MENGUAL Jean-Philippe, le Mon 01 Dec 2014 12:06:35 +0100, a écrit : and MATE is much more suit when we try to have a universal desktop with braille, speech

Bug#771576: tasksel: tasks=mate still also installs gnome

2014-11-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Package: tasksel Version: 3.29 Severity: important Hello, I wanted to make brltty and speakup auto-preseed tasks=mate so as to automatically install the most accessible desktop by default, but while doing so indeed enables installation of the mate desktop, the gnome desktop also gets installed:

Bug#769616: tasksel: fails to preseed desktop on kfreebsd, hurd

2014-11-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le Sat 22 Nov 2014 23:19:24 +0100, a écrit : I however fail to preseed this and still let the user choose. Ok, forget what I wrote: I made various mistakes. tasksel tasksel/desktop multiselect mate does work, except bug #771576. Samuel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian

Re: base system size

2014-11-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
Santiago Vila, le Sat 29 Nov 2014 10:49:43 +0100, a écrit : Maybe wget is too bloated for the base system? Having a wget available has been quite convenient to me several times to easily transfer a file. We could however in the future consider packaging another, lightweight wget. OTOH, 277 to

Re: d-i installation manual bits for arm64 and ppc64el

2014-11-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, I can only repeat what I have posted a couple of months ago: we do need documentation in the manual about the arm64 and ppc64el new architectures. Samuel Thibault, le Tue 16 Sep 2014 14:11:01 +0200, a écrit : One of the things that needs to get added for arm64 and ppc64el

base system size

2014-11-28 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Now that perl is out of the base system again, I've had a look at the figures of a base system install. We're ~80Mib bigger, from 277MiB to 360MiB: - aptitude is not installed by default any more - -18MiB - grub got 12MiB bigger. - wget now depends on libicu52, 27MiB. - linux-image got

Re: Bug#770525: tasksel: Task selection menu does not have Go Back button

2014-11-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Control: reassign -1 tasksel Control: retitle -1 tasksel: Task selection menu does not have Go Back button Samuel Thibault, le Sat 22 Nov 2014 02:43:54 +0100, a écrit : Samuel Thibault, le Sat 22 Nov 2014 02:34:40 +0100, a écrit : Package: tasksel Oops, sorry, I'm just realizing that in d-i

Bug#769616: tasksel: fails to preseed desktop on kfreebsd, hurd

2014-11-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le Sat 22 Nov 2014 01:57:41 +0100, a écrit : Steven Chamberlain, le Sat 15 Nov 2014 02:20:53 +, a écrit : It was seen on kfreebsd and hurd that preseeding with: tasksel tasksel/first multiselect standard, desktop tasksel tasksel/desktop multiselect xfce no longer

Bug#769616: tasksel: fails to preseed desktop on kfreebsd, hurd

2014-11-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Steven Chamberlain, le Sat 15 Nov 2014 02:20:53 +, a écrit : It was seen on kfreebsd and hurd that preseeding with: tasksel tasksel/first multiselect standard, desktop tasksel tasksel/desktop multiselect xfce no longer works, a regressions since wheezy; no desktop gets

Bug#770525: tasksel: Task selection menu does not have Go Back button

2014-11-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Package: tasksel Version: 3.29 Severity: normal Hello, The Software selection d-i dialog does not have a Go Back button any more, which is not convenient when one wants to tinker a bit debconf before starting the long installing tasks step. Samuel -- System Information: Debian Release:

Re: Bug#770525: pkgsel: Task selection menu does not have Go Back button

2014-11-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Control: reassign -1 pkgsel Control: retitle -1 pkgsel: Task selection menu does not have Go Back button Samuel Thibault, le Sat 22 Nov 2014 02:34:40 +0100, a écrit : Package: tasksel Oops, sorry, I'm just realizing that in d-i it's called pkgsel. Samuel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian

Re: tasksel desktop preseed issues (was: Re: Failure: g-i-installation_debian_sid_daily_hurd_lxde/71)

2014-11-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
Steven Chamberlain, le Fri 14 Nov 2014 21:41:24 +, a écrit : Firstly could someone please tell me what display manager this is? https://jenkins.debian.net/view/g-i-installation/job/g-i-installation_debian_sid_daily_hurd_lxde/70/artifact/results//snapshot_008244.png See the preseed file: we

Bug#745262: console-setup: Caps lock doesn't take effect on øæå (Danish characters)

2014-11-09 Thread Samuel Thibault
Anton Zinoviev, le Sun 09 Nov 2014 17:29:53 +0200, a écrit : On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 12:47:26AM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: Anton Zinoviev, le Wed 06 Aug 2014 20:39:02 +0300, a écrit : On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 10:35:23PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: Oops, indeed, it seems the version

Re: vt2-6 still not available with base system

2014-11-09 Thread Samuel Thibault
Michael Biebl, le Sun 09 Nov 2014 19:56:40 +0100, a écrit : Running for i in `seq 2 6` ; do systemctl enable getty@tty$i.service; done on a system without dbus, would statically enable a getty on vt2-6. I know, but I don't think we want to make the user have to do that. So we could simply

vt2-6 still not available with base system

2014-11-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, I've just checked this morning with the latest netboot, when installing just the base system with no task, dbus does not get installed, and thus vt2-6 do not have a login banner because systemd-logind needs dbus for that. In 758111, systemd was made to recommend dbus so that it works on

Bug#767432: main-menu: please give a way to change the frontend

2014-10-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Package: main-menu Severity: normal User: debian-accessibil...@lists.debian.org Usertags: a11y Hello, Depending on the input and output accessibility helpers used by the user, one frontend or the other will be more convenient, it would be useful to be able to change the frontend during

Bug#766815: installation-reports: please omit quiet option

2014-10-26 Thread Samuel Thibault
lee, le Sun 26 Oct 2014 02:44:01 +0100, a écrit : I strongly recommend to change the installer to *not* use the quiet option. Well, you can use the expert boot entry for this. Samuel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble?

Bug#763695: console-setup is slowest part of boot, not fast as setupcon manpage tells us

2014-10-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Julian Andres Klode, le Wed 01 Oct 2014 23:31:18 +0200, a écrit : console-setup requires 800ms during a boot. That's odd, it shouldn't be taking so long, thanks to the caching in /etc/console-setup/cached.kmap.gz. You should probably check what is happening there. Samuel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: brltty_5.0-3_amd64.changes ACCEPTED into unstable

2014-09-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
Cyril Brulebois, le Mon 29 Sep 2014 22:36:09 +0200, a écrit : [ Paul Gevers ] * Improved timestamp fix in man pages to be independent of locales and file timestamps (Closes: #708585) . [ Samuel Thibault ] * Team upload. * Append the d-i -inherited configure

Bug#763005: installation-guide-amd64: website for wheezy leads to jessie installation guide

2014-09-28 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Ross Boylan, le Fri 26 Sep 2014 18:23:19 -0700, a écrit : On http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual I selected the link for amd64 pdf, http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/install.pdf.en. When I view this it says that it is the installation guide for Debian 8,

Bug#762426: setup.exe does work, it just pops up an extra browser window

2014-09-23 Thread Samuel Thibault
積丹尼 Dan Jacobson, le Mon 22 Sep 2014 15:09:16 +0800, a écrit : At least that's how it was when I used a 2010 installation disk I had lying around last week. Which was 4 years ago, with at best Lenny. We are preparing Jessie, not Lenny. Please re-test with Jessie. Samuel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: Bug#762024: installation-guide-amd64: Please add caution warning to instructions to create a usb bootable stick

2014-09-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
Control: tags -1 + pending Ben Hutchings, le Thu 18 Sep 2014 16:58:56 +0100, a écrit : As people are still making this mistake, I would suggest explicitly saying The image must be written to the whole-disk device and not a partition, e.g. /dev/sdb and not /dev/sdb1. I have commited it,

Re: Installation manual upload?

2014-09-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
Karsten Merker, le Sun 14 Sep 2014 20:37:12 +0200, a écrit : I currently have some small uncommitted changes to the english manual in my local working tree. Is it ok to do further commits for now or should I postpone them until after the package has been uploaded? It's now uploaded, you can

d-i installation manual bits for arm64 and ppc64el

2014-09-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, One of the things that needs to get added for arm64 and ppc64el is the installation manual bits. For now I have just commited the basics, so you can $ debcheckout installation-guide $ cd installation-guide/build $ ./buildone arm64 en pdf $ ./buildone ppc64el en pdf to get it built. What

Re: Installation manual upload?

2014-09-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
Karsten Merker, le Sun 14 Sep 2014 20:37:12 +0200, a écrit : On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 07:13:33PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: last manual upload was 20131009 which is a while ago. Since we're closing in for a Jessie Beta 2 release, it'd be nice to have current svn uploaded soon. I'm not

Re: Installation manual upload?

2014-09-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
Cyril Brulebois, le Sun 14 Sep 2014 19:13:33 +0200, a écrit : last manual upload was 20131009 which is a while ago. Since we're closing in for a Jessie Beta 2 release, it'd be nice to have current svn uploaded soon. I'm not sure whether some translations are pending though. Christian, what do

Re: default desktop: availability on all arches

2014-09-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Steven Chamberlain, le Wed 10 Sep 2014 11:56:58 +0100, a écrit : What happens otherwise if trying to start GNOME3 (or others)? * without 3D, with llvmpipe * without both Does it fall back gracefully to a fallback/flashback mode, and does that still work these days? In this mode would it

Bug#760992: debian-installer: i18n: doesn't load keyboard layout that was just set

2014-09-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Control: reassign -1 debian-live Tamás Tardos, le Wed 10 Sep 2014 00:03:44 +0200, a écrit : Hi and thanks for your quick responses. The exact ISOs are: debian-live-7.6.0-amd64-xfce-desktop.iso debian-live-7.6.0-amd64-kde-desktop+nonfree.iso With both of these I'm able to reproduce the

Bug#760992: debian-installer: i18n: doesn't load keyboard layout that was just set

2014-09-09 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Tardos Tamás, le Tue 09 Sep 2014 20:17:40 +0200, a écrit : My language is Hungarian (magyar). Although the installer asks for my keyboard layout, this choice only affects the final installed system: the installer doesn't instantly load the keymap as I would expect. That is not expected

Bug#760778: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#760778: xfce4-session: Please depend on gnome-orca

2014-09-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Yves-Alexis Perez, le Mon 08 Sep 2014 10:37:34 +0200, a écrit : What I'm against is forcing stuff onto users which have exactly no need for it. With that kind of reasoning we would install the complete set of packages in every installed system “just in case”. There is a big difference in the

Re: Bug#760778: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#760778: xfce4-session: Please depend on gnome-orca

2014-09-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Michael Biebl, le Mon 08 Sep 2014 14:30:56 +0200, a écrit : I fail to see why a11y would be important enough to force it to Xfce installations while not beeing important enough to force it to default installations. Right, we can probably add it to task-desktop instead. Joey? I'm not

Re: accessibility of jessie desktops

2014-09-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Joey Hess, le Sat 06 Sep 2014 12:44:29 -0400, a écrit : When I select Enable assitive technologies in xfce4-accessability-settings, it claims that it will start the required applications for screen readers and magnifiers. But if it does, I can't tell. It doesn't. First, due to a bug in

Re: accessibility of jessie desktops

2014-09-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le Sun 07 Sep 2014 15:03:09 +0200, a écrit : After that bug is fixed, xfce4-session indeed starts at-spi-bus-launcher and at-spi2-registryd, but that's only the server part of the accessibility stack. orca also needs to have been installed (currently it is not), and be started

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#760778: xfce4-session: Please depend on gnome-orca

2014-09-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Yves-Alexis Perez, le Sun 07 Sep 2014 21:06:43 +0200, a écrit : ATM, with a fresh XFCE installation, enabling Enable assitive technologies does not actually start the orca screen reader, because the screen reader does not get installed along the XFCE installation. XFCE should thus depend

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#760778: xfce4-session: Please depend on gnome-orca

2014-09-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Yves-Alexis Perez, le Sun 07 Sep 2014 21:15:19 +0200, a écrit : On dim., 2014-09-07 at 21:13 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: Well, for a blind user, it *is*!... Sure, but not everyone's blind. And not everyone speaks all languages on earth, yet we install all language files by default, which

Re: accessibility of jessie desktops

2014-09-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le Sun 07 Sep 2014 20:14:20 +0200, a écrit : Samuel Thibault, le Sun 07 Sep 2014 15:03:09 +0200, a écrit : After that bug is fixed, xfce4-session indeed starts at-spi-bus-launcher and at-spi2-registryd, but that's only the server part of the accessibility stack. orca also

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#760778: xfce4-session: Please depend on gnome-orca

2014-09-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Control: reassign -1 task-xfce-desktop Control: tags -1 - wontfix Yves-Alexis Perez, le Sun 07 Sep 2014 22:23:34 +0200, a écrit : On dim., 2014-09-07 at 21:53 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: Yves-Alexis Perez, le Sun 07 Sep 2014 21:15:19 +0200, a écrit : On dim., 2014-09-07 at 21:13 +0200

Re: accessibility of jessie desktops

2014-09-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe, le Sat 06 Sep 2014 00:25:05 +0200, a écrit : I don't know exactly what's expected (should 9e an]ier here? on the wiki? etc)? I have filled the wiki with a summary of your answer. Samuel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Re: accessibility of jessie desktops

2014-09-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
BTW, I would like to emphasize that it's very good news that tasksel people care about accessibility for the default choices, that's really good for getting mainstream accessibility! Samuel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble?

Bug#759290: debian-installer: 'Automated install' does not delay the locale and keyboard questions

2014-08-26 Thread Samuel Thibault
Andreas B. Mundt, le Tue 26 Aug 2014 08:16:01 +0200, a écrit : Before, I was using the method B.2.5. Using a DHCP server to specify preconfiguration files described in [1]. Is there a reason not to delay the questions with that method? Probably not, and then it's a bug indeed. Samuel --

Bug#759290: debian-installer: 'Automated install' does not delay the locale and keyboard questions

2014-08-26 Thread Samuel Thibault
Control: tags -1 + pending Hello, Andreas B. Mundt, le Tue 26 Aug 2014 08:16:01 +0200, a écrit : Before, I was using the method B.2.5. Using a DHCP server to specify preconfiguration files described in [1]. Is there a reason not to delay the questions with that method? This apparently takes

Bug#759336: linux-i386 lowmem install: anna fails with ENOSPC

2014-08-26 Thread Samuel Thibault
Steven Chamberlain, le Tue 26 Aug 2014 13:48:53 +0100, a écrit : Using: http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso wheezy install guide suggests a minimum of 80MB RAM to run d-i. But even with 128MB RAM, not choosing any additional

Bug#759336: linux-i386 lowmem install: anna fails with ENOSPC

2014-08-26 Thread Samuel Thibault
Steven Chamberlain, le Tue 26 Aug 2014 14:10:51 +0100, a écrit : I should be able to help with that, I'll already be testing lots of low-memory installs, in order to find a good size for the kfreebsd d-i ramdisks. Well, the testing has to be done for each architecture, since that change quite

Bug#759336: linux-i386 lowmem install: anna fails with ENOSPC

2014-08-26 Thread Samuel Thibault
Steven Chamberlain, le Tue 26 Aug 2014 14:10:51 +0100, a écrit : It's odd that there still seemed to be ~50% free memory when this problem happened, though. Is there some maximum size that the linux-i386 root ramdisk can grow to? There seems to be something odd somewhere indeed. Just trying

Bug#759336: linux-i386 lowmem install: anna fails with ENOSPC

2014-08-26 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le Tue 26 Aug 2014 15:46:25 +0200, a écrit : Steven Chamberlain, le Tue 26 Aug 2014 14:10:51 +0100, a écrit : It's odd that there still seemed to be ~50% free memory when this problem happened, though. Is there some maximum size that the linux-i386 root ramdisk can grow

Bug#759336: linux-i386 lowmem install: anna fails with ENOSPC

2014-08-26 Thread Samuel Thibault
Steven Chamberlain, le Tue 26 Aug 2014 14:48:30 +0100, a écrit : On 26/08/14 14:15, Samuel Thibault wrote: Steven Chamberlain, le Tue 26 Aug 2014 14:10:51 +0100, a écrit : I should be able to help with that, I'll already be testing lots of low-memory installs, in order to find a good size

Bug#759336: linux-i386 lowmem install: anna fails with ENOSPC

2014-08-26 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le Tue 26 Aug 2014 15:49:32 +0200, a écrit : In /proc/mounts, one can read for the rootfs on / a size= value, which seems to be half the memory size. That's probably the culprit, perhaps it can be worked around somehow for d-i at least. Indeed: static unsigned long

Re: Debian Installer Jessie Beta 1 release

2014-08-26 Thread Samuel Thibault
cstrobel, le Tue 26 Aug 2014 20:31:55 -0400, a écrit : Are you saying XFCE is the problem? Yes. Is there going to be an updated installer you want me to test again, or what do you suggest to get ORCA working?? You can use a gnome image, such as

Bug#712907: grub-installer: No longer installs automatically on a normal machine with one hard drive

2014-08-25 Thread Samuel Thibault
Cyril Brulebois, le Thu 20 Mar 2014 14:51:32 +0100, a écrit : Salvatore Bonaccorso car...@debian.org (2014-03-20): It looks bootdev could be preseeded[1], at least for a test for a VM preseed the following worked for me: d-i grub-installer/bootdev string /dev/vda [1]

Bug#759290: debian-installer: 'Automated install' does not delay the locale and keyboard questions

2014-08-25 Thread Samuel Thibault
Control: tags -1 unreproducible Andreas B. Mundt, le Mon 25 Aug 2014 23:19:03 +0200, a écrit : when experimenting with unattended installations using PXE-boot and preseeding d-i, I did not find the 'Automated install' (auto mode) working as described in [1]: The auto kernel parameter is

Re: Debian Installer Jessie Beta 1 release

2014-08-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Cyril Brulebois, le Fri 22 Aug 2014 01:43:07 +0200, a écrit : Given what I mentioned above, I think what's in debian-installer should just work as it previously did? I have tested it again with the gnome desktop and it works fine indeed. Samuel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Debian Installer Jessie Beta 1 release

2014-08-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Luke Yelavich, le Fri 22 Aug 2014 11:05:17 +1000, a écrit : You would probably have to set the correct gsettings keys for the login user. We already do it for gdm actually. In Ubuntu I have things set up to set appropriate settings up for lightdm and the unity greeter. Ah, these

Re: Bug#757987: kfreebsd: cannot create swap space

2014-08-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Steven Chamberlain, le Fri 22 Aug 2014 14:42:45 +0100, a écrit : mkswap, and the whole format_swap script, is of no use to kfreebsd (or hurd I presume - please correct me if I'm wrong) hurd uses the same format as Linux, do not disable formatting swap there. Samuel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Bug#739989: espeak: build proper library udeb so that espeakup doesn't have to be statically linked and hence break on upstream version changes

2014-08-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Control: reopen 739989 Oops, sorry, I replied to the original mail, and thus closed the original bug, while I wanted to close the clone. This should be fixing it. Samuel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: d-i's purpose (was: Cannot find debian-installer/main-menu doesn't exist in menu)

2014-08-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Steven Chamberlain, le Thu 21 Aug 2014 14:00:06 +0100, a écrit : d-i images may be very small, but I haven't found it practical on embedded systems, which may not even have working VGA or networking; That's fine. I actually don't usually use VGA or network on servers, but simply a serial port.

Re: hurd-i386 daily build status

2014-08-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Cyril Brulebois, le Thu 21 Aug 2014 17:51:23 +0200, a écrit : Builds have been missing for a week. Can you please have a look? I missed making the incoming.d.o change there indeed. It's polluting monitoring. Which monitoring? Are some mails sent somewhere? I guess I missed that. Samuel

Re: hurd-i386 daily build status

2014-08-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Cyril Brulebois, le Thu 21 Aug 2014 23:43:48 +0200, a écrit : Samuel Thibault sthiba...@debian.org (2014-08-21): It's polluting monitoring. Which monitoring? Are some mails sent somewhere? I guess I missed that. Talking about: | Architectures with missing build: | | hurd

Re: Debian Installer Jessie Beta 1 release

2014-08-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, cstrobel, le Mon 18 Aug 2014 22:11:54 -0400, a écrit : I installed Jessie using a Braille display. Debian-Jessie-DI-b1-amd64-net inst.iso I tried to get Orca going like this. Ah. Normally Orca should automatically start at gdm and in the user session if installation was done with a

Re: Debian Installer Jessie Beta 1 release

2014-08-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Cyril Brulebois, le Fri 22 Aug 2014 01:43:07 +0200, a écrit : Samuel Thibault sthiba...@debian.org (2014-08-22): Hello, cstrobel, le Mon 18 Aug 2014 22:11:54 -0400, a écrit : I installed Jessie using a Braille display. Debian-Jessie-DI-b1-amd64-net inst.iso I tried to get Orca

Re: Debian Installer Jessie Beta 1 release

2014-08-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Cyril Brulebois, le Fri 22 Aug 2014 01:53:39 +0200, a écrit : Samuel Thibault sthiba...@debian.org (2014-08-22): Ah, then perhaps it's just the braille case which is broken. (You lost the submitter in your reply.) The submitter said the netinst image was used. So xfce/lightdm were

Re: Bug#758757: kfreebsd-10: d-i bugs caused by qemu-system-i386+kvm

2014-08-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Cyril Brulebois, le Thu 21 Aug 2014 02:03:48 +0200, a écrit : Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org (2014-08-21): On 21/08/14 00:23, Steven Chamberlain wrote: Using qemu-system-i386 with the -smp 2 flag, I started seeing weird issues early in d-i: It seems more likely this was

Re: localechooser_2.63_amd64.changes ACCEPTED into unstable

2014-08-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Cyril Brulebois, le Sat 02 Aug 2014 02:31:22 +0200, a écrit : Debian FTP Masters ftpmas...@ftp-master.debian.org (2014-04-02): localechooser (2.63) unstable; urgency=high it'd be nice to stick to $version rather than debian/$version as far as git tags go. Mmm, I indeed didn't notice that.

Bug#485586: debian-installer: Default to graphical install

2014-08-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Cyril Brulebois, le Mon 18 Aug 2014 23:36:03 +0200, a écrit : +notepara + +The graphical installer requires significantly more memory to run than +the regular installer: minimum-memory-gtk;. If insufficient memory is +available, it will automatically fall back to the regular

Bug#485586: debian-installer: Default to graphical install

2014-08-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Helloo, Holger Wansing, le Mon 18 Aug 2014 23:07:11 +0200, a écrit : Basically I moved the chapter Appendix D.6. The Graphical Installer to 5.1.8 (at the end of Booting the installer on 32-bit PC), leaving the content unchanged. And I moved chapter Appendix D.6.1. Using the graphical

Re: Bug#485586: debian-installer: Default to graphical install

2014-08-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Cyril Brulebois, le Tue 19 Aug 2014 01:17:02 +0200, a écrit : = debian-accessibility@: if we go from i386 to amd64 by default, is there anything that needs to be done on your side (doc update etc.) Normally, only the installer manual would need an update. I don't see the multi-arch boot menu

Bug#758476: d-i manual: part about bootloader installation is missing in example preseed file 'preseed.txt'

2014-08-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Control: tags -1 + pending Holger Wansing, le Sun 17 Aug 2014 22:59:19 +0200, a écrit : The relevant paragraph was set to arch=any-x86 with this commit: http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/d-i/trunk/manual/en/appendix/preseed.xml?r1=65001r2=65009 This attribute works for building the manual

Bug#745262: console-setup: Caps lock doesn't take effect on øæå (Danish characters)

2014-08-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
Anton Zinoviev, le Thu 14 Aug 2014 13:53:41 +0300, a écrit : I don't like to upgrade the software of my computer too often. I suppose it is closer to wheezy than to jessie and that's why I don't see the problem. Well, you can probably set up a jessie or sid chroot. What is the output of

Bug#745262: console-setup: Caps lock doesn't take effect on øæå (Danish characters)

2014-08-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Anton Zinoviev, le Wed 06 Aug 2014 20:39:02 +0300, a écrit : On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 10:35:23PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: Andreas, le Sun 20 Apr 2014 03:30:13 +0200, a écrit : On the Linux console the caps lock key doesn't take effect on the Danish characters æøå. With caps lock

Bug#757882: pkgsel: [text frontend] No feedback right after selecting the software tasks

2014-08-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Package: pkgsel Version: 0.42 Severity: normal Hello, This is a problem only with the test frontend, used by our speech synthesizer version. This can be tested easily by booting the installer with the Install with speech synthesis boot entry. Right after answering the Software selection tasksel

Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jonas Smedegaard, le Fri 08 Aug 2014 16:11:58 +0200, a écrit : The following is on a wheezy chroot: root@bastian:/# aptitude install task-gnome-desktop The following NEW packages will be installed: [...] Need to get 370 MB of archives. After unpacking 1099 MB will be used.

Bug#757099: d-i manual: update relevant archs for jessie

2014-08-05 Thread Samuel Thibault
Holger Wansing, le Tue 05 Aug 2014 11:57:46 +0200, a écrit : Package: installation-guide Tags: patch arch list for d-i manual needs an update (dropped architectures): Indeed, please commit. +#Package: installation-guide-s390 You can probably just remove it, like you did in archlist.

Bug#756893: ram requirements for d-i: stats in d-i manual

2014-08-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Holger Wansing, le Mon 04 Aug 2014 11:22:06 +0200, a écrit : Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org wrote: Holger Wansing li...@wansing-online.de (2014-08-03): the ram requirements needed to install with d-i stated in the d-i manual are not up-to-date. Indeed they are outdated since

Bug#756893: ram requirements for d-i: stats in d-i manual

2014-08-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Holger Wansing, le Mon 04 Aug 2014 11:22:06 +0200, a écrit : So what needs to be changed? In https://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2013/05/msg00662.html I have already proposed the following: Table 3.2. Recommended Minimum System Requirements Install TypeRAM (minimal) RAM

Bug#756996: mentions of 2.6 kernel in the d-i manual

2014-08-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Holger Wansing, le Mon 04 Aug 2014 11:55:43 +0200, a écrit : Please note that I have added an entity for the default kernel series shipped with the respective release. Would it be worse to add such an entity? I'm actually surprised it wasn't there already.: Is 3.14 kernel for Jessie

Bug#756996: mentions of 2.6 kernel in the d-i manual

2014-08-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Holger Wansing, le Mon 04 Aug 2014 22:54:17 +0200, a écrit : Then there is no need to create that entity at all, right? Indeed. Samuel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Bug#755871: doesn't prompt for keyboard layout when installing over serial konsole

2014-07-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Daniel Baumann, le Thu 24 Jul 2014 08:30:25 +0200, a écrit : when installing serial console, kbd-chooser is run but doesn't prompt for a keyboard layout. eventhough when installing over serial, the remote machine has the keyboard that is used to enter things during installation, i'd still like

Re: Bug#754544: espeakup-udeb: uninstallable due to wrong version information for espeak-data-udeb

2014-07-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le Sun 13 Jul 2014 00:55:14 +0200, a écrit : Cyril Brulebois, le Sun 13 Jul 2014 00:23:31 +0200, a écrit : and this is the expected version dependency at work. Just binNMU-ing espeakup will fix it. but anyway, someone needs to perform the binNMUs or request them

Re: Bug#754544: espeakup-udeb: uninstallable due to wrong version information for espeak-data-udeb

2014-07-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Cyril Brulebois, le Sat 12 Jul 2014 11:10:08 +0200, a écrit : Package: espeakup-udeb Version: 1.48.04+dfsg-1 this package can't be installed due to the version information for espeak-data-udeb: | $ dpkg --compare-versions 1.48.04+dfsg-1 '=' 1.48.04~; echo $? | 0 | $ dpkg

Re: Bug#754544: espeakup-udeb: uninstallable due to wrong version information for espeak-data-udeb

2014-07-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Cyril Brulebois, le Sun 13 Jul 2014 00:23:31 +0200, a écrit : and this is the expected version dependency at work. Just binNMU-ing espeakup will fix it. but anyway, someone needs to perform the binNMUs or request them; and I haven't seen anything on -wb-team@ yet. Sure, I just hadn't

Re: libespeak / espeakup

2014-07-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Cyril Brulebois, le Mon 07 Jul 2014 02:44:03 +0200, a écrit : Samuel Thibault sthiba...@debian.org (2014-05-22): Some time ago, I realized that espeakup-udeb needs to be rebuilt on each new upstream libespeak upload, because libespeak needs an exact match between the library version

Re: libespeak / espeakup

2014-07-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le Fri 11 Jul 2014 11:04:02 +0200, a écrit : Cyril Brulebois, le Mon 07 Jul 2014 02:44:03 +0200, a écrit : Right now we have a cronned edos/dose job that looks for uninstallable udebs and let me know when situation changes (be it for better or for worse); so at least

Re: libespeak / espeakup

2014-07-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le Fri 11 Jul 2014 11:58:31 +0200, a écrit : Samuel Thibault, le Fri 11 Jul 2014 11:04:02 +0200, a écrit : Cyril Brulebois, le Mon 07 Jul 2014 02:44:03 +0200, a écrit : Right now we have a cronned edos/dose job that looks for uninstallable udebs and let me know when

Bug#749262: debian-installer: Please start generating hurd-i386 daily images

2014-05-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Cyril Brulebois, le Fri 30 May 2014 20:48:16 +0200, a écrit : Samuel Thibault sthiba...@debian.org (2014-05-30): Gabriele Giacone, le Sun 25 May 2014 19:24:24 +0200, a écrit : Please start generating them at http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/hurd-i386/ in order to let

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