Package: apt-setup
Severity: wishlist
apt-setup should configure apt so that only translations for the
languages I have configured on the system are downloaded. Currently,
all the various translations are downloaded, slowing down the
installation process.
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object to.
Very strongly agreed, if we could outright ban using dot directories in
packages for anything packaged (except dotfiles in people's ~, which
should generally not be something that the packaging cares about), I
think that would be a good idea.
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I've fixed it now, sorry for the long delay.
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]] Ben Hutchings
| On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 18:03 +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
| Package: linux-2.6
| Severity: important
|
| Hi,
|
| we have a host with an 07:00.0 RAID bus controller: Areca Technology Corp.
Device 1201
| (aka 07:00.0 0104: 17d3:1201)
|
| The kernel driver is arcmsr
special place in my heart
and I'm hoping I'll get back to do some hacking on at least some of
the subsystems.
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Ew. So we don't support mirrors which don't provide indices? Why not
just do a HEAD request instead? (Yes, wget doesn't support it yet,
but that would be a much nicer way to do it and should be easy enough
to fix.)
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the time of day. :)
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hosts includes it.
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* Martin Sjögren
| I cannot reach cvs.alioth, I can't even reach alioth...
It's down due to hardware problems. Was supposed to get up again
yesterday, but it didn't. Hopefully, we'll see it up and running in a
short while.
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know if that is feasable...
Why do you think each and every udeb needs a custom widget? The only
one which really needs it is the partitioner, IMHO. Adding good
support for grouping questions would, for instance, make netcfg-static
not suck the way it does today.
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and this is clearly unacceptable when
a full mkfs may take many minutes.
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Sauter - Stuttgart, Germany
|
| For this to happen, I need more people interested in going there.
Tollef Fog Heen - Trondheim, Norway
(given that I have some money and it doesn't collide with a customer
project meeting or other silliness.)
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chrp systems have openfirmware which understand file systems, so
they don't need a boot loader at all, they just need a kernel
installed.
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doesn't have a floppy drive. I don't know
| if you can even boot a Mac from a floppy.
you can, it's the only way to boot oldworlds, iirc, at least.
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* Sebastian Ley
| * Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
|
| If it's set in d-i, that should be used by base-config, else
| base-config should ask, imho
|
| The problem is, that it is asked in netcfg which should not be
| mandatory for an installation.
why is that a problem?
| So moving it to base
* (Denis Barbier)
| Martin, please always run debconf-updatepo after modifying templates files.
can't you fix the rules files so that it's done automatically?
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| principle is to do only the necessary things. IIRC this has been
| discussed before, perhaps we should come to an agreement here now and
| remove the question from netcfg.
If it's set in d-i, that should be used by base-config, else
base-config should ask, imho
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* Joey Hess
[...]
| Nearly any whitespace used like that wastes memory. Can anyone think of
| a way to error out at compile time on those?
grep for them?
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station should
| on the other hand not make the HW detection step fail, so if this is
| the case we can try to solve that first.
I think we should stop autoloading the floppy module.
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/po/ directory of this package ?
applied.
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* Florian Lohoff
| Hi,
| needed - no libdetect for mips(el)
[...]
thanks, applied
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, it should be passed on so that both the
rest of d-i and base-config can get at it. dhcp is an incredibly
powerful protocol..
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really suck. I might remember
wrong, though.
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a conflict in my Makefile. I might miss
mails to -boot, though it's one of the lists I try to read closely, so
mailing me privately or mentioning it on IRC is a faster and more
reliable way to get my attention on such matters as this.
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from the CVS, but rather from the archive. And yes, some parts which
are needed to build a d-i boot floppy in d-i CVS. And they need to be
installed in the host system.
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*
| I want to build the version of d-i I just checked out of CVS and test
| it. I don't see that what you suggest advances that.
build libdebian-installer, install libdebian-installer, build the rest
of d-i.
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is a normal debian package, which is
built like all normal debian packages.
Please, please read all the stuff doc/*, the various README files
lying around and the Developer's Reference.
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those available in Woody.
libd-i is part of d-i cvs.
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* Falk Hueffner
| I'm running kernel 2.5.59. Is that a problem? Or any other ideas?
That's most likely the problem, yes. depmod uses the running kernel
for some stuff, it seems. :/
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*
| I don't see any build instructions there though.
build/README perhaps?
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) :
[...]
| Library not found: libbogl.so.0 in path: /lib/ : /usr/lib/ :
| /usr/X11R6/lib/
| make: *** [net-tree-stamp] Error 1
Have you installed libbogl0?
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languagechooser at
| 10, hence into the reserved space.
Why do they need to be menu items at all, they should rather be run
sometime in rcS.d, shouldn't they?
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to daily
builds (the ones you found were from Nov 8th :).
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*
| On 14 Mar 2003, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
[...]
| You want mine, rather than his. His are ancient.
|
| I know.
|
| Take a look at the README in CVS!!
fixed, thanks.
[...]
| Some getting started info is available at
| http://raw.no/d-i/getting_started.html , including links to daily
? If so, I can fix it.
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: cannot open
| shared object file: No such file or directory \033[9;0]
| It kept repeating this message on and on, so I had to reboot...
I'm not sure what the problem here is, perhaps Martin or Petter can
shed some light on the problem?
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days. mbc, it's good if you report exactly what version you tried
when reporting bugs. :)
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* Larry Gilbert
| Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
|Also, having somebody with a good touch for English to go
|through the templates would be nice.
|
| I wouldn't mind helping with this, but I can't seem to figure out how
| to check out debian-installer from the CVS server (using
| -d:pserver
this, you are advanced enough to do this in a shell as well.
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are appreciated.
[1] http://people.debian.org/~sjogren/d-i/screenshots/2003-02-16/slang/
[2] http://lists.debian.org/debian-cd/2003/debian-cd-200301/msg00121.html
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? I believe I
| want some 'Install-before: autopartkit' in debian/control. Is there
| another way?
Depends on a virtual package?
| Is it OK for me to create /usr/lib/autopartkit.d/ for script fragments
| to run before autopartkit is executed?
sure
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that are
| shown by anna, many are very non-descript and many have tags like for
| debian-installer or udeb which is totally useless for the people who
| are going to read it! :)
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) is a better choice,
since it reuses debootstrap functionality and is a lot simpler than
using apt.
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* Petter Reinholdtsen
| [Tollef Fog Heen]
| I'm not sure using apt is a good thing for this. It would mean that
| your sources.list would have to be correctly set up and (for
| cd/floppy/nfs installs) the media should be mounted inside the
| chroot, in the right place. How do you propose
at a loss about why we needed the ln in the first place.
| any comments?
You probably have an installation on the disk already. P'haps it
should be changed to ln -sf?
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/kernel/image and
| the correct package is installed by kernel-installer. Any objections?
It should be a low-priority question where one can override the
default, but except for that, looks good.
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you please fix this?
thanks, fixed. That's what one gets for reorganizing one's hard
drives. :/
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guess figuring out which retriever to use will be tricky, but we'll
| still have the interactive mode for anna too.
true.
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or on irc is probably the best.
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the not-yet-written «we want this package installed in the
base system» module. I'll give it a shot.
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in each step, and a full one), but not crucial.
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need to, but if there is another package I
| should list the reports under, I'll be happy to add them there.
if the b-f maintainers agree, «install» would be a sensible choice,
since b-fs are not going to be developed a lot more, just maintained.
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and not a specific implementation of it.
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was recently
released in an alpha version, and until it is more stable, I think it
is reasonable that it's not better documented how to get it
installed.
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: at http://url.raw.no/?101
You can find the full alpha announcement at
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2002/debian-devel-announce-200212/msg2.html
(sorry about the long link), which should get you started.
Hope this helps.
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* (Denis Barbier)
| On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 08:49:09PM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
| [...]
| Those aren't checked in yet; I'll send patches here for the
| Choices-Description so people have a chance to complain ;)
|
| I would like to complain, could you please send your patches ;)
Yeah
* jason andrade
| On 20 Dec 2002, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
|
| Why not both?
|
| frankly i don't see the point in the proliferation of different ISO formats
| from a mirror point of view. i'd prefer to see official debian cd images as:
|
| o a single lightweight netinst iso per architecture
if it is available. That means that whatever values main-menu
and friends work with internally does _not_ have to be the same as the
values displayed to the user.
Those aren't checked in yet; I'll send patches here for the
Choices-Description so people have a chance to complain ;)
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to make it work well with old
boot-floppies, but if you want to work on that, please do.
Documentation on how to get it working with b-fs might be good, though
I wouldn't waste too much time trying to get it to work if it isn't
easily fixed.
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this list is the right place.
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* Sytse Wielinga
| Well here it is...
Denis Barbier commited those, thanks for your contribution.
in the future, it'd be great if you put in changelog entries as well,
both so you got the proper credits, and to ensure that the changelogs
are accurate.
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really
| believe that that is not the way to go. I believe that this should be fixed
| by making udebs of those packages with the right dependencies. As for the
| dependency on libc6, that should also be fixed on d-i packages.
yup, as above, imho.
(Cc-ed to boot, to see their comments)
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* (Denis Barbier)
| Or uppercase these macros to prevent name clashes. But IMO they are
| useless and could be removed.
if an application defines macros and functions into another
application's name space, it should not be confused when those are
later used by the application.
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console width problem last night, it could
have been in cvs, but it's not, yet.
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* Debian Boot CVS Master
| * Set debian/changelog's distribution section to
| - unstable instead of UNRELEASED.
Don't do this until you upload, having the distribution set to
UNRELEASED means you won't get a changelog with UNRELEASED in it, it
will rather be rejected.
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remove it. It was needed when we have discover's data files in
/usr/share/detect due to a bug. It could just be removed now.
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guess he hasn't gotten around to
it yet. At least for general d-i questions, just mail the list, if
there are SPARC-specific issues, either [EMAIL PROTECTED] or
[EMAIL PROTECTED] should be a good choice.
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Package: busybox-cvs
Severity: grave
Justification: breaks d-i
At least on a serial console, the TIOCGWINSZ ioctl doesn't work. It
returns insane values such as -1073746144. This works well with
normal non-cvs busybox.
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the priority the error is
printed at.)
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* Geert Stappers
| At which list will the discussion go about the CVS commits?
debian-boot would be a good choice; similar to what the web team does
with -www-cvs and -www.
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anyone object to adding a C-g to the boot msg file? And, erm,
| where is that syslinux.cfg? Or am I right in assuming it is not implemented
| yet?
it's in build/ somewhere.
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| subscribed to this list (i'd like to help). Don't hesitate asking me more
| things if you need.
Thanks for the report! You point out a lot of stuff which we'd not
expected somebody to do, and some stuff which I guessed would break,
and we'll start fixing those things ASAP.
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(and soon 2003) then
you are on pretty old HW and you most likely know what hardware you
have. Manual setup of ISA is fine, I'd say (unless somebody throws a
lot of weight into fixing it).
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-q http://archive.progeny.com/debian//pool/main/c/console-data/consob
console-fonts_2002.12.04dbs-1_all.udeb: applet not found
and there it hangs.
Please also stop providing busybox, at least until busybox is a proper
superset of busybox.
waldi, you fix?
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* Debian Boot CVS Master
| Ignore module load request for net-pf-1, nls_iso8859-1 and
| nls_cp437. The config was moved from cdrom-detect.
Why?
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* Petter Reinholdtsen
| [Tollef Fog Heen]
| Why?
|
| Why what? Because it is a smart thing to do.
No, it is _not_ smart to not load net-pf-1, aka unix sockets. Some
dhcp clients break. Syslog breaks.
So, please revert this change.
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* Anthony Towns
| On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 03:22:20AM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
| The following stuff is still missing:
| - reporting tool (code to write, non-trivial)
|
| A good aim is probably to make this as trivial as possible. A possibility
| is to store the udebconf database
* Martin Sjögren
| I'm not sure what the best place for doing that is... The
| debian-installer script? main-menu?
/sbin/debian-installer would be best, IMHO. So it will just be run
when debconf is actually running.
You fix?
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* Martin Sjögren
| One way would be to skip reducing when building the demo tree, so
| you'd have full libs when doing make demo, but before creating the
| initrd, the libs *must* be reduced!
You don't have those size problems with initrd gotten from, say the
network, AIUI.
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run it by
| the rest of the team before they get too far along (but without having
| to wait for a new reduced lib to be built and distributed.
You don't have to distribute the reduced build. It is made as part of
make initrd.
I think you are trying to solve a non-issue here. :)
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* lars lindgren
| Is there a kernel that supports that you can se the status of
| loading the kerel by be serialport?
you most likely want something like
console=ttyS0,38400
appended to the boot loader line.
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: No such file
| or directory
This should already be fixed.
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* Bruce Sass
| i.e., There is only a relatively small amount of code in di which
| uses the reduced libs, so there would be no significant gains.
yes.
| If `yes'... sorry for distracting you from your work.
no problem. :)
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* Alastair McKinstry
| Any comments?
sounds good to me.
| One question:
|
| Is the installer kernel likely to have USB installed, and discover take
| advantage of it?
That you cannot know. Most likely not, I'd guess. (Unless you are
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of the boot media.
So, yes, it is a bit inconsistent, but it's the only way. (AFAIK, at
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* Bruce Sass
| On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
| Most of those are built from -pic libraries, which are reduced
| versions of the normal libraries. It is impossible to know which
| functions are needed before the actual build of the boot media.
|
| So, yes, it is a bit
ready to have an alpha this weekend?
Also, a great, big thanks to all of you: great work so far. It's a
pleasure working with all of you.
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on detect, which was
developed by Mandrake. Please take a look at the new installer
(debian-installer) if you want to know about the new installer.
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a reasonable division of the number space?
Martin also suggested that no menu items should have the same number.
If so, we need to allocate numbers and track which have been given
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methods?
Because we support more kernels and more arches than those other
distributions.
If you are interested in helping, please take a look at
debian-installer and the current state instead of rambling about how
bad boot-floppies are.
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* Florent BERANGER
| I'm new on this ml and I want to test the Debian installer with my laptop.
| Is it possible (are PCMCIA nic cards recognized automaticaly) ?
debian-installer doesn't support PCMCIA yet.
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that, though. Resolve by choosing one
arbitrary?
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on irc before: I think it's prettier to make anna able
to configure packages (through libd-i?) than hacks like this, though
it's not pretty, I agree.
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* Mario Lang
| So, BenC or whoever, what is the status of the d-i port for SPARC?
| Is there anything a newbie to the architecture
| could do for you?
BenC has done some work on it, but nothing has been commited yet,
AFAIK.
(BenC Cc-ed)
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/get_netmask
| Type: string
| Answer: 255.255.23.0
This is not possible today, it will be possible sometime in the future
when you should be able to dump defaults to a floppy and use that for
the next install.
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