Re: 2.4 kernel as default boot kernel on CD #1 ??

2002-04-12 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Christian Leber | On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 12:24:53AM -0700, Erik Andersen wrote: | | The slackware installer already uses isolinux, which lets | then pack multiple kernels onto a single CD Here is | what they do: | |

Re: 2.4 kernel as default boot kernel on CD #1 ??

2002-04-07 Thread Christian Leber
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 12:24:53AM -0700, Erik Andersen wrote: The slackware installer already uses isolinux, which lets then pack multiple kernels onto a single CD Here is what they do: http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/slackware/isolinux/ The same with gentoo,

Re: 2.4 kernel as default boot kernel on CD #1 ??

2002-04-07 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 11:53:56AM +0200, Christian Leber écrivait: The same with gentoo, they have even managed to fit a 2.4 kernel on their first and only CD. But I have at least one Computer (i386, from end of 1996) where isolinux fails. What kind of failure ? It doesn't boot at all ? It

Re: 2.4 kernel as default boot kernel on CD #1 ??

2002-04-07 Thread Christian Leber
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 12:07:39PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: The same with gentoo, they have even managed to fit a 2.4 kernel on their first and only CD. But I have at least one Computer (i386, from end of 1996) where isolinux fails. What kind of failure ? It doesn't boot at all ?

Re: 2.4 kernel as default boot kernel on CD #1 ??

2002-04-07 Thread Philip Hands
On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 10:53, Christian Leber wrote: On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 12:24:53AM -0700, Erik Andersen wrote: The slackware installer already uses isolinux, which lets then pack multiple kernels onto a single CD Here is what they do:

Re: 2.4 kernel as default boot kernel on CD #1 ??

2002-04-07 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include hallo.h Erik Andersen wrote on Sun Apr 07, 2002 um 12:24:53AM: The slackware installer already uses isolinux, which lets then pack multiple kernels onto a single CD Here is what they do: http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/slackware/isolinux/ I looked at

Re: 2.4 kernel as default boot kernel on CD #1 ??

2002-04-07 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Christian Leber [EMAIL PROTECTED] cum veritate scripsit: P.S. I'm not a developer or know much about kernels, but i can not imagine that 2.4 is less stable then 2.2. But what is with Debian 3.0r6? How many people will be able to install with kernel 2.2 (because of there new boards, USB

Re: 2.4 kernel as default boot kernel on CD #1 ??

2002-04-07 Thread Christian Leber
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 12:01:13PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: The same with gentoo, they have even managed to fit a 2.4 kernel on their first and only CD. But I have at least one Computer (i386, from end of 1996) where isolinux fails. would it be possible to test MEMDISK on that

Re: 2.4 kernel as default boot kernel on CD #1 ??

2002-04-07 Thread Philip Hands
On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 13:37, Christian Leber wrote: On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 12:01:13PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: ... According to this: http://syslinux.zytor.com/memdisk.php MEMDISK is ... a workaround for BIOSes where ISOLINUX image support doesn't work.

Re: 2.4 kernel as default boot kernel on CD #1 ??

2002-04-07 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include hallo.h Philip Hands wrote on Sun Apr 07, 2002 um 02:32:59PM: therefore isolinux would have to start first and it does not even start :( no, I think you've got that back to front. As I understand it, MEMDISK is installed on the CD as though it's a floppy image, it loads and

Re: 2.4 kernel as default boot kernel on CD #1 ??

2002-04-06 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 04:50:50PM -0800, David Kimdon écrivait: aph and I were just talking on irc, how about : cd1: idepci; cd2 scsi; cd3: bf2.4; cd4: vanilla That gives us language chooser on the first CD, a big plus, while still giving us 2.2 as 'default'. IMO leaving the language

Re: 2.4 kernel as default boot kernel on CD #1 ??

2002-04-06 Thread Chris Lawrence
On Apr 06, Philip Hands wrote: The closest I'd be willing to go towards making a change, would be some form of kernel selection menu on the first CD, still with the vanilla 2.2 kernel as the default, but giving people the choice even if they only get CD#1. That would be conditional on some

Re: 2.4 kernel as default boot kernel on CD #1 ??

2002-04-06 Thread Colin Walters
On Sat, 2002-04-06 at 02:55, Raphael Hertzog wrote: We also have the MULTIBOOT feature, that let us select a flavor to boot on but it hasn't been widely tested afaik... This seems to me to be the best option of them all. What are the disadvantages of using this? For example, for the

Re: 2.4 kernel as default boot kernel on CD #1 ??

2002-04-06 Thread Erik Andersen
On Sat Apr 06, 2002 at 12:26:13PM -0600, Chris Lawrence wrote: Now, whether or not this is going to be acceptable to aj on the official CDs is another question. But it's an option that most vendors will probably jump at. The slackware installer already uses isolinux, which lets then pack

Re: 2.4 kernel as default boot kernel on CD #1 ??

2002-04-05 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include hallo.h Jim Westveer wrote on Thu Apr 04, 2002 um 05:24:24PM: And last, woody ought to be 2.2 based and not 2.4 based ... but since I also find it lame to use 2.2.x by default nowadays ... I disagree, 2.4.x kernels have been out for over 2 years.we should not release a new

Re: 2.4 kernel as default boot kernel on CD #1 ??

2002-04-05 Thread Ben Collins
On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 10:07:38AM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: #include hallo.h Jim Westveer wrote on Thu Apr 04, 2002 um 05:24:24PM: And last, woody ought to be 2.2 based and not 2.4 based ... but since I also find it lame to use 2.2.x by default nowadays ... I disagree, 2.4.x

Re: 2.4 kernel as default boot kernel on CD #1 ??

2002-04-05 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 10:07:38AM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: #include hallo.h Jim Westveer wrote on Thu Apr 04, 2002 um 05:24:24PM: And last, woody ought to be 2.2 based and not 2.4 based ... but since I also find it lame to use 2.2.x by default nowadays ... I disagree, 2.4.x kernels

Re: 2.4 kernel as default boot kernel on CD #1 ??

2002-04-05 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 07:00:08PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: 2.4 is not the default kernel for woody installs, 2.2 is. Oh, and is already clear to everyone involved, this is for i386. Other ports obviously have 2.4 kernels as default. Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: 2.4 kernel as default boot kernel on CD #1 ??

2002-04-05 Thread Jim Westveer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: MD5 On Friday 05 April 2002 01:00, Anthony Towns wrote: On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 10:07:38AM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: #include hallo.h snip, snip GUYS, _STOP IT_. NOW IS _NOT_ THE TIME TO MAKE CHANGES TO THE WAY THE INSTALL WORKS. snip, snip

Re: 2.4 kernel as default boot kernel on CD #1 ??

2002-04-05 Thread Philip Blundell
On Fri, 2002-04-05 at 19:45, Jim Westveer wrote: Before you lam-bast me with a nastygram, please grab or create a copy of the woody CD's, and try an installation with CD#1 as the disk you innitially boot from, then try the CD#3 with the bf24 kernel. The first thing you will notice is

Re: 2.4 kernel as default boot kernel on CD #1 ??

2002-04-05 Thread Chris Lawrence
On Apr 05, Philip Blundell wrote: On Fri, 2002-04-05 at 19:45, Jim Westveer wrote: Before you lam-bast me with a nastygram, please grab or create a copy of the woody CD's, and try an installation with CD#1 as the disk you innitially boot from, then try the CD#3 with the bf24 kernel.

Re: 2.4 kernel as default boot kernel on CD #1 ??

2002-04-05 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include hallo.h Anthony Towns wrote on Fri Apr 05, 2002 um 07:00:08PM: On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 10:07:38AM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: #include hallo.h Jim Westveer wrote on Thu Apr 04, 2002 um 05:24:24PM: And last, woody ought to be 2.2 based and not 2.4 based ... but since I also

Re: 2.4 kernel as default boot kernel on CD #1 ??

2002-04-05 Thread Thomas Poindessous
Le ven 05/04/2002 à 21:25, Chris Lawrence a écrit : A more conservative way to get the language chooser going would be to put compact or idepci on the first disk. It doesn't require 2.4 as such. It'd be nice to be able to add something like http://www.nu2.nu/diskemu/; however, it's not

Re: 2.4 kernel as default boot kernel on CD #1 ??

2002-04-05 Thread David Kimdon
Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 07:59:05PM +0100 wrote: On Fri, 2002-04-05 at 19:45, Jim Westveer wrote: Before you lam-bast me with a nastygram, please grab or create a copy of the woody CD's, and try an installation with CD#1 as the disk you innitially boot from, then try the CD#3 with the bf24

Re: 2.4 kernel as default boot kernel on CD #1 ??

2002-04-05 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 04:50:50PM -0800, David Kimdon wrote: cd1: idepci; cd2 scsi; cd3: bf2.4; cd4: vanilla Any seconds? seconded. -john -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: 2.4 kernel as default boot kernel on CD #1 ??

2002-04-05 Thread Jim Westveer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: MD5 On Friday 05 April 2002 16:50, David Kimdon wrote: Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 07:59:05PM +0100 wrote: On Fri, 2002-04-05 at 19:45, Jim Westveer wrote: snip,snip aph and I were just talking on irc, how about : cd1: idepci; cd2 scsi; cd3: bf2.4; cd4:

Re: 2.4 kernel as default boot kernel on CD #1 ??

2002-04-05 Thread David Kimdon
Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 05:00:45PM -0800 wrote: cd1: idepci; cd2 scsi; cd3: bf2.4; cd4: vanilla SCSI??? is there such a devil ? Its not in bf 3.0.22-2002-04-03 ;-/ s/scsi/compact/ I got a second, any opposed?

Re: 2.4 kernel as default boot kernel on CD #1 ??

2002-04-05 Thread Jordi Mallach
On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 04:06:19AM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: cd1: idepci; cd2 scsi; cd3: bf2.4; cd4: vanilla I got a second, any opposed? After considering this, I'm opposed. If the decision is that the default boot floppies for woody i386 are 2.2 ones (that don't do languages

Re: 2.4 kernel as default boot kernel on CD #1 ??

2002-04-05 Thread Philip Hands
On Sat, 2002-04-06 at 02:40, David Kimdon wrote: Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 05:00:45PM -0800 wrote: cd1: idepci; cd2 scsi; cd3: bf2.4; cd4: vanilla SCSI??? is there such a devil ? Its not in bf

Re: 2.4 kernel as default boot kernel on CD #1 ??

2002-04-05 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 10:45:21AM -0800, Jim Westveer wrote: On Friday 05 April 2002 01:00, Anthony Towns wrote: GUYS, _STOP IT_. NOW IS _NOT_ THE TIME TO MAKE CHANGES TO THE WAY THE INSTALL WORKS. I am not suggesting changing anything in how the install works, or anything to do with the

frame-buffer on vanilla? (was: Re: 2.4 kernel as default boot kernel on CD #1 ??)

2002-04-05 Thread David Kimdon
Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 05:17:57AM +0200 wrote: On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 04:06:19AM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: cd1: idepci; cd2 scsi; cd3: bf2.4; cd4: vanilla I got a second, any opposed? After considering this, I'm opposed. If the decision is that the default boot floppies for woody

Re: frame-buffer on vanilla? (was: Re: 2.4 kernel as default boot kernel on CD #1 ??)

2002-04-05 Thread Herbert Xu
On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 10:31:25PM -0800, David Kimdon wrote: the first CD. Is enabling frame-buffer an option on the vanilla flavor? (Herbert, I cc'd you to get your opinion on that, I don't Enabling VGA16 as a module will be done in the next release. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! (

Re: 2.4 kernel as default boot kernel on CD #1 ??

2002-04-05 Thread Philip Hands
On Sat, 2002-04-06 at 06:22, Anthony Towns wrote: I'm not really sure what part of _STOP IT_ is so difficult to understand, but please _STOP IT_. If you want to move the bf2.4 kernel images onto the CD#2 bootsector, that's fine. But the default kernel for woody, and hence the image that

Re: 2.4 kernel as default boot kernel on CD #1 ??

2002-04-05 Thread Erik Andersen
On Sat Apr 06, 2002 at 08:10:16AM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: The ISOLINUX/MEMDISK thing mentioned earlier looks interesting. Has anyone played with this? Presumably we could use MEMDISK to select I've used Isolinux. It works for me. Lets me select from multiple kernels on CD, with no

2.4 kernel as default boot kernel on CD #1 ??

2002-04-04 Thread Jim Westveer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: MD5 Hi, - -- Question: Would there be any objections to setting the default boot kernel on woody CD#1 to the bf2.4 flavor ??? - -- Jim Westveer - I wish there was a button on my monitor

Re: 2.4 kernel as default boot kernel on CD #1 ??

2002-04-04 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 07:17:58AM -0800, Jim Westveer écrivait: Hi, - -- Question: Would there be any objections to setting the default boot kernel on woody CD#1 to the bf2.4 flavor ??? I guess it's a bit late for this change since it probably means that we have to update the

Re: 2.4 kernel as default boot kernel on CD #1 ??

2002-04-04 Thread Jim Westveer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: MD5 On Thursday 04 April 2002 14:13, Raphael Hertzog wrote: Le Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 07:17:58AM -0800, Jim Westveer écrivait: Hi, - -- Question: Would there be any objections to setting the default boot kernel on woody CD#1 to the bf2.4 flavor

Re: 2.4 kernel as default boot kernel on CD #1 ??

2002-04-04 Thread David Kimdon
Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 07:17:58AM -0800 wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: MD5 Hi, - -- Question: Would there be any objections to setting the default boot kernel on woody CD#1 to the bf2.4 flavor ??? Yes, the bf2.4 kernel is described in the woody release notes as an