Bug#452388: Back on 'standard system' is confusing bug report

2009-07-29 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl): On Tuesday 28 July 2009, Christian Perrier wrote: What about something like: Description: Standard (non-graphical) system  This task installs a reasonably small character-mode system,  that provides the most commonly used tools in non-graphical

Bug#452388: Back on 'standard system' is confusing bug report

2009-07-29 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 29 July 2009, Christian Perrier wrote: My understanding of your point is that having this: [ ] Desktop environment [ ] Foo [ ] Bar [ ] Standard (non-graphical) environment does not make it clear that standard+desktop will end up in a GUI. Correct. If we go back to

Bug#452388: Back on 'standard system' is confusing bug report

2009-07-29 Thread Ferenc Wagner
Christian Perrier bubu...@debian.org writes: My understanding of your point is that having this: [ ] Desktop environment [ ] Foo [ ] Bar [ ] Standard (non-graphical) environment does not make it clear that standard+desktop will end up in a GUI. If we go back to Standard

Bug#452388: Back on 'standard system' is confusing bug report

2009-07-29 Thread Otavio Salvador
Hello, On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 8:10 AM, Frans Popelen...@planet.nl wrote: I guess changing it to Graphical desktop environment would be OK, but that does not make Standard (non-graphical) environment any less wrong! I think it would make clear that it is indeed a graphical system and it makes

Bug#452388: Back on 'standard system' is confusing bug report

2009-07-29 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl): does not make it clear that standard+desktop will end up in a GUI. Correct. If we go back to Standard environment, I guess it does not make things clearer enough. The current short description is Standard *system*, not Standard

Bug#452388: Back on 'standard system' is confusing bug report

2009-07-28 Thread Christian Perrier
(CC'ing some contributors in the thread who might be missing this mail otherwise) I went again on this bug report (against tasksel) about the name of the standard task (and description) being somewhat confusing. The thread in this bug report is very long, but finally concludes that a rewrite is

Bug#452388: Back on 'standard system' is confusing bug report

2009-07-28 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Christian Perrier (bubu...@debian.org): Description: standard (non-graphical) core operating environment This is the subset of the distribution, installed by default, which can be added upon to provide a more featureful and tailored operating system. The current description is

Bug#452388: Back on 'standard system' is confusing bug report

2009-07-28 Thread Justin B Rye
Christian Perrier wrote: Description: Standard system This task installs a reasonably small character-mode system. What about something like: Description: Standard (non-graphical) system This task installs a reasonably small character-mode system, that provides the most commonly used

Bug#452388: Back on 'standard system' is confusing bug report

2009-07-28 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Justin B Rye (j...@edlug.org.uk): However, I worry that this will encourage CLI-phobic users to uncheck the Standard task. It's not for console-only systems; after all, I'm using mutt right now in my window manager. It's a basic neutral user environment, including apt, exim4, perl,

Bug#452388: Back on 'standard system' is confusing bug report

2009-07-28 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 28 July 2009, Christian Perrier wrote: What about something like: Description: Standard (non-graphical) system  This task installs a reasonably small character-mode system,  that provides the most commonly used tools in non-graphical environments. That will look very silly in D-I