Re: Bug#613796: partman-partitioning: Put swap at begin of disk instead of at end

2011-02-20 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2011-02-17, Lennart Sorensen lsore...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: Assuming 'resize' is defined as 'making bigger', and that you prepared it ahead of time for such future expansions. At least that's what I recall it being. Preparing it ahead of time can just mean root on LVM, though. But

Bug#613796: partman-partitioning: Put swap at begin of disk instead of at end

2011-02-19 Thread Ferenc Wagner
Olaf van der Spek olafvds...@gmail.com writes: On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 10:31 PM, Lennart Sorensen lsore...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 10:18:33PM +0100, Olaf van der Spek wrote: Is it? I thought it was the default. More doesn't make sense. If you have 8GB ram,

Bug#613796: partman-partitioning: Put swap at begin of disk instead of at end

2011-02-17 Thread Olaf van der Spek
Package: partman-partitioning Severity: wishlist Hi, Could swap be put at the begin instead of at the end of a disk? It's better for performance and it allows one to resize the / partition without touching the swap one. Greetings, Olaf Disk /dev/sda: 17.2 GB, 17179869184 bytes 255 heads, 63

Bug#613796: partman-partitioning: Put swap at begin of disk instead of at end

2011-02-17 Thread Miguel Figueiredo
Hi, A Quinta 17 Fevereiro 2011 10:32:54 Olaf van der Spek você escreveu: Package: partman-partitioning Severity: wishlist Hi, Could swap be put at the begin instead of at the end of a disk? It's better for performance and it allows one to resize the / partition without touching the swap

Bug#613796: partman-partitioning: Put swap at begin of disk instead of at end

2011-02-17 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Miguel Figueiredo el...@debianpt.org wrote: Could swap be put at the begin instead of at the end of a disk? It's better for performance and it allows one to resize the / partition without touching the swap one. /boot is very small and usually it's a good idea

Bug#613796: partman-partitioning: Put swap at begin of disk instead of at end

2011-02-17 Thread Michael Tokarev
17.02.2011 23:27, Miguel Figueiredo wrote: Hi, A Quinta 17 Fevereiro 2011 10:32:54 Olaf van der Spek você escreveu: Package: partman-partitioning Severity: wishlist Hi, Could swap be put at the begin instead of at the end of a disk? It's better for performance and it allows one to

Bug#613796: partman-partitioning: Put swap at begin of disk instead of at end

2011-02-17 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 9:52 PM, Michael Tokarev m...@tls.msk.ru wrote: There should be absolutely no difference for performance. If by performance here you mean you want faster swap, I'd say you want _no_ swapping instead, and if you're heavily swapping, no swap relocation will ever help.

Bug#613796: partman-partitioning: Put swap at begin of disk instead of at end

2011-02-17 Thread Michael Tokarev
18.02.2011 00:09, Olaf van der Spek wrote: [] In contrary to that, you really want your main filesystems to be at the beginning of the drive - the data you access most often. A 256 mb swap partition before a 1 tb root partition isn't really going to make a difference. 256mb for swap is

Bug#613796: partman-partitioning: Put swap at begin of disk instead of at end

2011-02-17 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 10:16 PM, Michael Tokarev m...@tls.msk.ru wrote: 256mb for swap is very rare nowadays.  yes, it makes little Is it? I thought it was the default. More doesn't make sense. Not true, ext supports online resize. While ext*fs and xfs supports online resizing, one needs

Bug#613796: partman-partitioning: Put swap at begin of disk instead of at end

2011-02-17 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 10:09:37PM +0100, Olaf van der Spek wrote: On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 9:52 PM, Michael Tokarev m...@tls.msk.ru wrote: There should be absolutely no difference for performance. If by performance here you mean you want faster swap, I'd say you want _no_ swapping instead,

Bug#613796: partman-partitioning: Put swap at begin of disk instead of at end

2011-02-17 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 10:18:33PM +0100, Olaf van der Spek wrote: Is it? I thought it was the default. More doesn't make sense. If you have 8GB ram, 256MB swap is useless. 4 or 8GB might be useful. Some people work with datasets that large sometimes. If you have 32MB ram, 256MB swap is

Bug#613796: partman-partitioning: Put swap at begin of disk instead of at end

2011-02-17 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 10:31 PM, Lennart Sorensen lsore...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 10:18:33PM +0100, Olaf van der Spek wrote: Is it? I thought it was the default. More doesn't make sense. If you have 8GB ram, 256MB swap is useless.  4 or 8GB might be useful. Some