Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-11 Thread Ferenc Wagner
Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org writes: On Dienstag, 10. Februar 2009, Jérémy Bobbio wrote: For Microsoft Windows users, the installer can also be started without having to reconfigure the system BIOS. What does that sentence mean? Why should (only) Windows users need to reconfigure

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-11 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 11:50, Ferenc Wagner wf...@niif.hu wrote: Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org writes: On Dienstag, 10. Februar 2009, Jérémy Bobbio wrote: For Microsoft Windows users, the installer can also be started without having to reconfigure the system BIOS. What does that

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-11 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Mittwoch, 11. Februar 2009, Ferenc Wagner wrote: For Microsoft Windows users, the installer can also be started without having to reconfigure the system BIOS. What does that sentence mean? Why should (only) Windows users need to reconfigure the bios? To boot from CD instead of

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-11 Thread Ferenc Wagner
Richard Hartmann richih.mailingl...@gmail.com writes: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 11:50, Ferenc Wagner wf...@niif.hu wrote: Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org writes: On Dienstag, 10. Februar 2009, Jérémy Bobbio wrote: For Microsoft Windows users, the installer can also be started without

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-11 Thread Tanco
As I understand, this may has a whole other meaning, when installing Debian on a HDD that has a Windows installation, I wanted to use grub to load linux, but didn`t like installing it to the MBR, so I installed it on the Debian root partition boot record, after the installation procedure, I

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-11 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 12:18, Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org wrote: That doesnt really have to do anything with Windows. Or if, it should be explained how/why. Because the installer carries executables for Windows only (well, and Linux). You are right though, it should be explained why.

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-11 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 12:25, Ferenc Wagner wf...@niif.hu wrote: That sounds fishy. As I understand it, win32-loader can start the installer from Windows, not needing a reboot (thus not needing BIOS boot order reconfiguration either). I doubt Windows stays running during installation,

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-11 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Ferenc Wagner wf...@niif.hu wrote: That sounds fishy. As I understand it, win32-loader can start the installer from Windows, not needing a reboot (thus not needing BIOS boot order reconfiguration either). I doubt Windows stays running during installation,

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-11 Thread Jérémy Bobbio
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 12:18:34PM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote: On Mittwoch, 11. Februar 2009, Ferenc Wagner wrote: For Microsoft Windows users, the installer can also be started without having to reconfigure the system BIOS. What does that sentence mean? Why should (only) Windows users

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-11 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, thanks Paul for the explaination! On Mittwoch, 11. Februar 2009, Holger Levsen wrote: For Microsoft Windows users, the installer can also be started without having to reconfigure the system BIOS. Maybe something like this is better: There is also a new tool for Windows users,

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-11 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 13:45, Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org wrote: There is also a new tool for Windows users, win32-loader which can modifiy s/win32-loader/win32-loader,/ the boot.ini from Windows, so it's possible to install Debian without touching the BIOS. touching the BIOS to

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-11 Thread Ferenc Wagner
Richard Hartmann richih.mailingl...@gmail.com writes: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 12:25, Ferenc Wagner wf...@niif.hu wrote: That sounds fishy. As I understand it, win32-loader can start the installer from Windows, not needing a reboot (thus not needing BIOS boot order reconfiguration either).

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-11 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Jérémy Bobbio (lu...@debian.org): That doesnt really have to do anything with Windows. Or if, it should be explained how/why. I wanted to highlight the inclusion of win32-loader. But maybe this does not fit the release announcement and should just be dropped completely. Given

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-11 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
Hi! Christian Perrier schrieb: Given that it might be hard to explain what *exactly* win32-loader is doing, I think it could be safer to drop this new feature from the announcement. Did so when the discussion started waiting for a consensus. Seems we reached it ;) Best regards,

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-11 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 22:45, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl alexan...@schmehl.info wrote: Christian Perrier schrieb: Given that it might be hard to explain what *exactly* win32-loader is doing, I think it could be safer to drop this new feature from the announcement. Did so when the

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-11 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
[ readding debian-boot since the discussion is going to their topic ] Hi! Justin B Rye schrieb: [ several improvements ] Applied. If that last sentence is trying to say without having to boot from it (with the assumption that my BIOS wasn't set up to boot from removable media by default

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-11 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 11 February 2009, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: Okay, that's a bit tricky: Under normal circumstances you would reboot need to check, if your bios allows to boot from CD/DVD/Blu-ray, and could then boot from your optical drive continuing with the installation. Aren't most

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-10 Thread Jérémy Bobbio
On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 06:32:52PM +0100, Christian Perrier wrote: Quoting Alexander Reichle-Schmehl (alexan...@schmehl.info): Especially the second and third paragraphs need a better replacement; maybe the d-i or cd folks have a good idea about that? Let's try to get ideas for the D-I

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-10 Thread Andre Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira
Hello, There is a possibility to include my banner [1] ? Perhaps some screenshots... Link: http://www.debianart.org/cchost/?ccm=/media/files/si0ux/486 Thanks! 2009/2/10 Jérémy Bobbio lu...@debian.org: On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 06:32:52PM +0100, Christian Perrier wrote: Quoting Alexander

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-10 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Jérémy Bobbio (lu...@debian.org): How about something like: The installation process for Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 has been improved in many ways: support for installation from more than 1 CD or DVD has been restored, firmware required by some devices can be loaded by using external USB

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-10 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Dienstag, 10. Februar 2009, Jérémy Bobbio wrote: [good paragraph deleted :)] For Microsoft Windows users, the installer can also be started without having to reconfigure the system BIOS. What does that sentence mean? Why should (only) Windows users need to reconfigure the bios?

Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-09 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
[ Sorry for the cross post; just trying to make sure everyone is aware of the current state ] Hi! Attached you'll find the current draft of the announcement for the lenny release. Based upon the announcement for the last release it's far from ready :( Especially the second and third

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-09 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
On 2009-02-09, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl alexan...@schmehl.info wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --040603030801070601030404 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [ Sorry for the cross post; just trying to make sure

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-09 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Alexander Reichle-Schmehl (alexan...@schmehl.info): Especially the second and third paragraphs need a better replacement; maybe the d-i or cd folks have a good idea about that? Let's try to get ideas for the D-I paragraph. !-- pUsing a now fully integrated installation process,