Re: Full Debian install impressions and facts (another one)

2004-04-25 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Matt Zimmerman wrote: This question should not be asked on a new install of libssl0.9.7, only on upgrades. Looking at the postinst, it seems correct: It's possible that an upgrade was involved in the install, if the CD had a slightly older version.

Re: Full Debian install impressions and facts

2004-04-20 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Apr 19, 2004 at 10:16:40AM +0100, Alastair McKinstry wrote: On 18.IV.2004 at 13:27 (-0500) Branden Robinson wrote: The main challenge here, as I understand it, is that d-i basically uses console-data's paradigm for keyboard description. So what we need is a gigantic mapping

Re: Full Debian install impressions and facts

2004-04-19 Thread Anton Zinoviev
On 18.IV.2004 at 13:27 (-0500) Branden Robinson wrote: The main challenge here, as I understand it, is that d-i basically uses console-data's paradigm for keyboard description. So what we need is a gigantic mapping table in xserver-xfree86.config to translate console-data keyboard

Re: Full Debian install impressions and facts

2004-04-19 Thread Alastair McKinstry
On 18.IV.2004 at 13:27 (-0500) Branden Robinson wrote: The main challenge here, as I understand it, is that d-i basically uses console-data's paradigm for keyboard description. So what we need is a gigantic mapping table in xserver-xfree86.config to translate console-data keyboard

Re: Full Debian install impressions and facts (another one)

2004-04-19 Thread Joey Hess
Matt Zimmerman wrote: This question should not be asked on a new install of libssl0.9.7, only on upgrades. Looking at the postinst, it seems correct: It's possible that an upgrade was involved in the install, if the CD had a slightly older version. if [ $1 = configure ] then if [ ! -z

Re: Full Debian install impressions and facts (another one)

2004-04-19 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Fri, Apr 16, 2004 at 11:25:42AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: On this install, the noflushd problem didn't happen. So I did the whole install at high priority. Thus, the debconf screens count is exact. Package name Useful Useless Total fr-Translated Should use d-i

Re: Full Debian install impressions and facts (another one)

2004-04-19 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Apr 19, 2004 at 12:37:42PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: Matt Zimmerman wrote: This question should not be asked on a new install of libssl0.9.7, only on upgrades. Looking at the postinst, it seems correct: It's possible that an upgrade was involved in the install, if the CD had a

Re: Full Debian install impressions and facts

2004-04-18 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Apr 16, 2004 at 10:59:33AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: The XFree keyboard was US layout while I had chosen a french layout for the console keyboard during d-i. I think we need some closer interaction between the console-* package settings and the xfree settings. This has been

Re: Full Debian install impressions and facts

2004-04-18 Thread Joey Hess
Christian Perrier wrote: [1] exim4 is first configured when the package is installed but also later when base-config runs its configuration again I don't understand the description of this problem. exim4-config is first installed by debootstrap, thus it runs in noninteractive mode, thus we

Re: Full Debian install impressions and facts

2004-04-17 Thread Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo
On Sat, Apr 17, 2004 at 09:55:25AM +1000, Andrew Pollock wrote: Speaking both as a user and developer I'd like to thank you for going through this install and writing up your results. Creating a good initial user experience is important for Debian. Speaking of which, I've been meaning to

Re: Full Debian install impressions and facts

2004-04-17 Thread Frans Pop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Why don't you run through some old issues of Debian Weekly News? I remember having read most reviews from links included there. FJP -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux)

Full Debian install impressions and facts

2004-04-16 Thread Christian Perrier
(people in CC list, you're concerned by some parts of this mail, imho) I had today a new server to be installed and got some time for doing some tests regarding a normal life Debian installation. The purpose was doing a install everything test and see what happens, how long it takes, how many

Full Debian install impressions and facts (another one)

2004-04-16 Thread Christian Perrier
This report is similar to the one I sent a few minutes ago but with some different test conditions. I had today a new server to be installed and got some time for doing some tests regarding a normal life Debian installation. The purpose was doing a standard desktop install test and see what

Re: Full Debian install impressions and facts (another one)

2004-04-16 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Christian Perrier] Package name Useful Useless Total fr-Translated Should use d-i [...] xserver-xfree866 0 6 6 Why do you believe these 6 questions are useful? In Skolelinux, we are able to configure X almost every time based on the automaticly

Re: Full Debian install impressions and facts (another one)

2004-04-16 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Petter Reinholdtsen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): [Christian Perrier] Package name Useful Useless Total fr-Translated Should use d-i [...] xserver-xfree866 0 6 6 Why do you believe these 6 questions are useful? In Skolelinux, we are able to

Re: Full Debian install impressions and facts

2004-04-16 Thread Alexander Schmehl
* Christian Perrier [EMAIL PROTECTED] [040416 10:59]: The XFree keyboard was US layout while I had chosen a french layout for the console keyboard during d-i. I think we need some closer interaction between the console-* package settings and the xfree settings. See #242605 and #238778.

Re: Full Debian install impressions and facts

2004-04-16 Thread Sam Hartman
Speaking both as a user and developer I'd like to thank you for going through this install and writing up your results. Creating a good initial user experience is important for Debian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Re: Full Debian install impressions and facts

2004-04-16 Thread Andrew Pollock
On Fri, Apr 16, 2004 at 10:59:33AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: The display manager daemon is GDMwhile the default desktop environment is KDE. This is kinda strange as the first screen users see mentions Gnome while they boot into KDE after entering their login/password?! Yeah,

Re: Full Debian install impressions and facts

2004-04-16 Thread Andrew Pollock
On Fri, Apr 16, 2004 at 03:30:22PM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: Speaking both as a user and developer I'd like to thank you for going through this install and writing up your results. Creating a good initial user experience is important for Debian. Speaking of which, I've been meaning to go

Re: Full Debian install impressions and facts (another one)

2004-04-16 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Fri, Apr 16, 2004 at 11:52:01AM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: Why do you believe these 6 questions are useful? In Skolelinux, we are able to configure X almost every time based on the automaticly detected HW info. I believe the X configuration by default _at most_ should ask one