Re: Install on Orange Pi Plus eMMC work but no reboot

Le 07. 10. 16 à 17:09, Lennart Sorensen a écrit : On Fri, Oct 07, 2016 at 02:48:30PM +0200, Jean-Christian de Rivaz wrote: You mean the flash-kernel package and not by the flash-kernel-installer ? flash-kernel takes care of the kernel and the boot script. It doesn't install u-boot. At least

Re: Install on Orange Pi Plus eMMC work but no reboot

Le 07. 10. 16 à 17:09, Lennart Sorensen a écrit : On Fri, Oct 07, 2016 at 02:48:30PM +0200, Jean-Christian de Rivaz wrote: On some system, maybe. Not on the Orange Pi Plus Well I guess it is one of the exceptions. As I user I experience the H3 ROM like a PC BIOS, and the H3 U-Boot like

Re: Install on Orange Pi Plus eMMC work but no reboot

>> 100% correct. People may invest in a board specifically because >> it's listed. It's easy to create angry users if that turns out >> to be false advertisement, which they only discover after >> they've spent money. > > There is no "false advertisement" from Debian. Debian is a > volunteer

Re: Install on Orange Pi Plus eMMC work but no reboot

Le 07. 10. 16 à 16:53, Karsten Merker a écrit : On Fri, Oct 07, 2016 at 02:48:30PM +0200, Jean-Christian de Rivaz wrote: Le 07. 10. 16 à 13:33, Karsten Merker a écrit : On Fri, Oct 07, 2016 at 01:57:41AM +0200, Jean-Christian de Rivaz wrote: Regarding the hd-media image: installing to the SD

Re: Install on Orange Pi Plus eMMC work but no reboot

On Fri, Oct 07, 2016 at 02:48:30PM +0200, Jean-Christian de Rivaz wrote: > On some system, maybe. Not on the Orange Pi Plus Well I guess it is one of the exceptions. > Well, I understand the technical part. But from a user point, when he see > the Orange Pi Plus in the board list of the Debian

Re: Install on Orange Pi Plus eMMC work but no reboot

>> You might have misunderstood the way the SD card images are >> built. The "firmware" part of the images contains only the >> partition table and the system-specific u-boot. The actual >> installer is the same for all platforms. There is no such thing >> as "the installer for the Orange Pi

Re: Install on Orange Pi Plus eMMC work but no reboot

Le 07. 10. 16 à 13:33, Karsten Merker a écrit : On Fri, Oct 07, 2016 at 01:57:41AM +0200, Jean-Christian de Rivaz wrote: The debian-installer doesn't install u-boot, but it takes explicit care not to destroy an existing u-boot installation during the partitioning step. Yes. It take so much

Re: Install on Orange Pi Plus eMMC work but no reboot

Le 07. 10. 16 à 05:25, Lennart Sorensen a écrit : On Fri, Oct 07, 2016 at 01:44:13AM +0200, Jean-Christian de Rivaz wrote: Did you realize that SD card and eMMC uses both exactly the same signaling and controller on all processors, not only on the Allwinner family ? If a board designer is

Re: Install on Orange Pi Plus eMMC work but no reboot

On Fri, Oct 07, 2016 at 01:44:13AM +0200, Jean-Christian de Rivaz wrote: > Did you realize that SD card and eMMC uses both exactly the same signaling > and controller on all processors, not only on the Allwinner family ? If a > board designer is stupid enough to connect the eMMC instead of the SD

Re: Install on Orange Pi Plus eMMC work but no reboot

On Thu, Oct 06, 2016 at 11:28:07PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > Is that actually controlled by straps, though?  For the TI SoC I've > been working with recently, when the boot device is set to eMMC the ROM > code will look for the SPL in: > > 1. boot area > 2. fixed offsets in main area > 3.

Re: Install on Orange Pi Plus eMMC work but no reboot

Le 07. 10. 16 à 03:18, Ben Hutchings a écrit : On Fri, 2016-10-07 at 01:44 +0200, Jean-Christian de Rivaz wrote: Did you realize that SD card and eMMC uses both exactly the same signaling and controller on all processors, not only on the Allwinner family ? This is not true. There are many

Re: Install on Orange Pi Plus eMMC work but no reboot

Le 07. 10. 16 à 01:57, Jean-Christian de Rivaz a écrit : Le 07. 10. 16 à 00:39, Karsten Merker a écrit : was wrote by the installer. The debian-installer doesn't install u-boot, but it takes explicit care not to destroy an existing u-boot installation during the partitioning step. Yes. It

Re: Install on Orange Pi Plus eMMC work but no reboot

On Fri, 2016-10-07 at 01:44 +0200, Jean-Christian de Rivaz wrote: > Le 07. 10. 16 à 00:30, Karsten Merker a écrit : > > > So the boot order might not be problematic on the Orange Pi Plus, but > > it can definitely be problematic on A64-based systems and it might > > possibly be problematic on

Re: Install on Orange Pi Plus eMMC work but no reboot

Le 07. 10. 16 à 00:39, Karsten Merker a écrit : On Thu, Oct 06, 2016 at 08:13:45PM +0200, Jean-Christian de Rivaz wrote: Right. For my curiosity I tested the netboot SD card image of the Debian installer and tried to tell it to partition, format and install Debian into the very same SD card

Re: Install on Orange Pi Plus eMMC work but no reboot

Le 07. 10. 16 à 00:30, Karsten Merker a écrit : So the boot order might not be problematic on the Orange Pi Plus, but it can definitely be problematic on A64-based systems and it might possibly be problematic on other H3-based boards. Did you realize that SD card and eMMC uses both exactly

Re: Install on Orange Pi Plus eMMC work but no reboot

On Thu, 2016-10-06 at 16:53 -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > On Thu, Oct 06, 2016 at 12:29:13PM -0700, Vagrant Cascadian wrote: > > To make matters more complicated, there are definitely some boards > > (Firefly, maybe BeagleBoard-X15) which can install the OS to eMMC, > > but > > u-boot still has

Re: Install on Orange Pi Plus eMMC work but no reboot

Le 06. 10. 16 à 21:29, Vagrant Cascadian a écrit : I don't believe there is any code in debian-installer to install u-boot; the installer did not install it. I don't believe there is any code within all of Debian to install u-boot automatically (unless you count SD image generation). It is at

Re: Install on Orange Pi Plus eMMC work but no reboot

On Thu, Oct 06, 2016 at 12:29:13PM -0700, Vagrant Cascadian wrote: > To make matters more complicated, there are definitely some boards > (Firefly, maybe BeagleBoard-X15) which can install the OS to eMMC, but > u-boot still has to be loaded from SD card. I don't think we have much > information on

Re: Install on Orange Pi Plus eMMC work but no reboot

Thanks Karsten and Jean-Christian for your detailed responses! It's a complicated issue, more details below... On 2016-10-06, Jean-Christian de Rivaz wrote: > Le 06. 10. 16 à 15:26, Karsten Merker a écrit : > Right. For my curiosity I tested the netboot SD

Re: Install on Orange Pi Plus eMMC work but no reboot

Le 06. 10. 16 à 15:26, Karsten Merker a écrit : The raw MLC NAND flash that was commonly used as fixed storage on sunxi-based boards isn't yet properly supported in the mainline kernel and sunxi-based systems with eMMC storage are a fairly recent development. Therefore until recently, on

Re: Install on Orange Pi Plus eMMC work but no reboot

On Thu, Oct 06, 2016 at 11:40:58AM +0200, Jean-Christian de Rivaz wrote: > The U-Boot and the installer was on a SD card that was only created by > decompressing and concatenating this two files: > https://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/armhf/daily/netboot/SD-card-images/firmware.orangepi_plus.img.gz

Re: Install on Orange Pi Plus eMMC work but no reboot

Le 06. 10. 16 à 02:16, Karsten Merker a écrit : On Wed, Oct 05, 2016 at 10:59:06PM +0200, Jean-Christian de Rivaz wrote: First I wish to congratulate the Debian Installer team for there fantastic work on armhf. I tested both the hd-media and netinst on a Allwinner H3 Orange Pi Plus and the

Install on Orange Pi Plus eMMC work but no reboot

Hi all. First I wish to congratulate the Debian Installer team for there fantastic work on armhf. I tested both the hd-media and netinst on a Allwinner H3 Orange Pi Plus and the installer worked without any glitch up to the reboot. But unfortunately the installed system on eMMC don't boot.