Erik Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Oh, thats right.
I wonder if I should trim out some of the fat in the .deb then.
For example, the .deb contains the busybox shell (lash), which
is not being used... I expect a bit of hunting could find a
fw others.
Fat trimming sounds worthwhile
I agree with Erik.
Chris' documentation is good, but should be part of the documentation,
not actually something on the root disk.
/me has spoken.
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New users feel completely lost; even if the information is right there, they
don't know how to get at it.
No, new users shouldn't have to use tty2 at all.
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Chris Tillman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In my case I did end up finding a quick reference sheet on the web after my
first few weeks of trying to get Debian installed. But it didn't include
many of the commands that are available, and was bash-oriented, so it really
wasn't much help.
That's
I agree with Erik.
Chris' documentation is good, but should be part of the documentation,
not actually something on the root disk.
/me has spoken.
Thanks -- I'll probably find a place for it eventually, and it needs some
more work in any case :-)
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On Tue Jun 12, 2001 at 09:46:10PM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
Erik Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Oh, thats right.
I wonder if I should trim out some of the fat in the .deb then.
For example, the .deb contains the busybox shell (lash), which
is not being used... I expect a bit
On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 09:34:50PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 04:41:59PM -0700, Chris Tillman wrote:
nano-tiny -T15 -v /help.txt
why not zcat /help.gz | more ?
That would work, but I used tabs to make two columns; using the editor lets
me choose how
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 03:27:11AM -0300, Peter Cordes wrote:
gzipping a gzipped file doesn't make it any smaller, so compressing before
making it part of the filesystem won't save space. The larger filesystem
created by leaving it uncompressed will be matched by the better
compressability
On Sun Jun 10, 2001 at 08:38:50PM -0700, David Whedon wrote:
That is a good point. The suggestion of dynmically using the busybox help
probably doesn't treat transloations very well, unless busybox wants translated
help.
I'm willing to accept patches to properly internationalize busybox.
On Sun Jun 10, 2001 at 02:52:50PM -0700, David Whedon wrote:
FWIW busybox does have better help if you turn it on :
bb with very little help:
-rwxr-xr-x root/root180316 2001-06-10 14:22:28 ./bin/busybox
bb with better help:
-rwxr-xr-x root/root195804 2001-06-10 14:29:32
On Mon Jun 11, 2001 at 10:29:33AM -0700, David Whedon wrote:
On x86:
[root@slag busybox_udeb_builddir]# ll ./busybox.help
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root 148988 Jun 11 10:48 ./busybox.help*
[root@slag busybox_udeb_builddir]# ll ./busybox.orig
-rwxr-xr-x
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 10:42:51AM -0600, Erik Andersen wrote:
On Sun Jun 10, 2001 at 08:38:50PM -0700, David Whedon wrote:
That is a good point. The suggestion of dynmically using the busybox help
probably doesn't treat transloations very well, unless busybox wants translated
help.
Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 09:55:40PM +0200 wrote:
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 10:42:51AM -0600, Erik Andersen wrote:
On Sun Jun 10, 2001 at 08:38:50PM -0700, David Whedon wrote:
That is a good point. The suggestion of dynmically using the busybox help
probably doesn't treat transloations very
On Mon Jun 11, 2001 at 02:03:21PM -0700, David Whedon wrote:
Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 09:55:40PM +0200 wrote:
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 10:42:51AM -0600, Erik Andersen wrote:
On Sun Jun 10, 2001 at 08:38:50PM -0700, David Whedon wrote:
That is a good point. The suggestion of dynmically using
David Whedon wrote:
The nice things i see about this is that the messages have a chance of being
maintained if put into busybox cvs. The problem is that they are separated from
the people who actually want the messages to exist (Debian), though not too far,
since busybox is pretty Debian
I'll propose the following, and I can help too, probably, if this sounds like
a
good idea:
1. translate config.XX.h in busybox. This would give us a common base for
creating i18n help files.
One of the following:
A. provide just compile time i18n of busybox plus the creation of a number
The online help for the installation system is of course quite limited due
to space limitations. However, the help that is available isn't really
enough for new users who are just being exposed to *nix for the first time.
We can't take on the job of *nix education within the installer, but I
We can't take on the job of *nix education within the installer, but I think
a few k would really be a good investment for new users. I'm willing to
scrounge a few k from other places if need be...
I like this idea.
Let's add a new 'help' command (hard linked to man and info) that just
On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 02:15:16PM -0700, Chris Tillman wrote:
The online help for the installation system is of course quite limited due
to space limitations. However, the help that is available isn't really
enough for new users who are just being exposed to *nix for the first time.
We can't
nano-tiny -T15 -v /help.txt
why not zcat /help.gz | more ?
That would work, but I used tabs to make two columns; using the editor lets
me choose how much space for a tab so it's more readable and also gives the
novice an interface to use to search for keywords, and scroll back and
forth.
FWIW busybox does have better help if you turn it on :
bb with very little help:
-rwxr-xr-x root/root180316 2001-06-10 14:22:28 ./bin/busybox
bb with better help:
-rwxr-xr-x root/root195804 2001-06-10 14:29:32 ./bin/busybox
That is more space than what you are proposing, but it
That is a good point. The suggestion of dynmically using the busybox help
probably doesn't treat transloations very well, unless busybox wants translated
help.
-David
Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 02:16:48AM +0200 wrote:
Would it be an English-only file ??
Or is there a way of integrating it in
That is a good point. The suggestion of dynmically using the busybox help
probably doesn't treat transloations very well, unless busybox wants
translated
help.
-David
I played around with the dynamic thing a little bit, it probably wouldn't
work out well in any case.
As far as duplicated
On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 04:41:59PM -0700, Chris Tillman wrote:
nano-tiny -T15 -v /help.txt
why not zcat /help.gz | more ?
That would work, but I used tabs to make two columns; using the editor lets
me choose how much space for a tab so it's more readable and also gives the
novice
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