Re: More tasks option in Tasksel: what tasks do you want there?

2014-09-10 Thread Philipp Kern
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 01:46:08PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Philipp Kern wrote: It should likely be raised to priority=standard, which would make it part of the standard system utilities task. smartctl is relatively important for problem diagnosis with disk

Re: More tasks option in Tasksel: what tasks do you want there?

2014-09-10 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 7:51 PM, Philipp Kern wrote: I guess I would want to see it installed on all non-chroot installs, hence maybe hw-detect makes more sense. If there's a SCSI/ATA disk drive, install smartmontools. Sounds good to me. You also need smart-notifier on desktops where the

Bug#758116: More tasks option in Tasksel: what tasks do you want there?

2014-09-09 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Cyril, On Mon, Sep 08, 2014 at 02:33:06AM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: At some point it would really be nice to have a summary of what happened or what was discussed at DebConf, but on mailing lists. While I'm very happy to see stuff happen during in person meetings, keeping people who

Bug#758116: More tasks option in Tasksel: what tasks do you want there? (reloaded)

2014-09-09 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Thomas, thanks for caring for this topic. On Mon, Sep 08, 2014 at 11:15:48PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: ... So, with what you're proposing, we'll have something like this: │[*] Desktop environment │ │[*] ... Xfce

Re: More tasks option in Tasksel: what tasks do you want there? (reloaded)

2014-09-08 Thread Thomas Goirand
Opening a new thread, trying to sum-up what's been said. sum-up It's looking like some of the options are confusing for both advanced users and newbies. The technologies behind the tasks are hidden, and there's no obvious way to know what will happen (other than looking at the package source of

Re: More tasks option in Tasksel: what tasks do you want there? (reloaded)

2014-09-08 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 11:15 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: sum-up It's looking like some of the options are confusing for both advanced users and newbies. The technologies behind the tasks are hidden, and there's no obvious way to know what will happen (other than looking at the package source

Re: More tasks option in Tasksel: what tasks do you want there? (reloaded)

2014-09-08 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Sep 09, Paul Wise p...@debian.org wrote: Isn't tasksel for people with no expectations? People who know something about the technology they are looking for will install the relevant packages instead of following tasksel recommendations. Tasksel is not about recommendations: its purpose is

Re: More tasks option in Tasksel: what tasks do you want there? (reloaded)

2014-09-08 Thread Peter Samuelson
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 11:15 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: - database-server: commonly one would expect MySQL, and postgress gets installed [Paul Wise] Isn't tasksel for people with no expectations? People who know something about the technology they are looking for will install the relevant

Re: More tasks option in Tasksel: what tasks do you want there? (reloaded)

2014-09-08 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 09/09/2014 06:21 AM, Paul Wise wrote: On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 11:15 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: sum-up It's looking like some of the options are confusing for both advanced users and newbies. The technologies behind the tasks are hidden, and there's no obvious way to know what will happen

Re: More tasks option in Tasksel: what tasks do you want there?

2014-09-07 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org (2014-09-07): During Debconf14, I could chat with Joey about the future of Tasksel, and having a More option task, which would lead to a new screen which would propose more tasks. Before anyone can implement this plan, we have to make sure that we all agree on

Re: More tasks option in Tasksel: what tasks do you want there?

2014-09-07 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com (2014-09-08): This is (almost) exactly what's being worked on after discussions at DebConf. By removing some of the less useful tasks, we'll be able to add some extra more useful options. At some point it would really be nice to have a summary of what happened

Re: More tasks option in Tasksel: what tasks do you want there?

2014-09-07 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Mon, Sep 08, 2014 at 02:33:06AM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com (2014-09-08): This is (almost) exactly what's being worked on after discussions at DebConf. By removing some of the less useful tasks, we'll be able to add some extra more useful options. At some