Quoting Tetralet ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
As long as this iso-3166 translation in zh_TW is incomplete,
you will be presented with the English name list...
which you don't like, when choosing zh_TW.
So, go ahead and finish the zh_TW translation of iso_3166.
I'm very willing to do it.
Well, I'm unfortunately pretty sure that whatever solution we find to
this, some people will still think this is not acceptable as long as
the solution does not implement their own solution.
I'd think so.
Is this passible iso-codes package offer a short name for the country code?
I mean, the
As long as this iso-3166 translation in zh_TW is incomplete,
you will be presented with the English name list...
which you don't like, when choosing zh_TW.
So, go ahead and finish the zh_TW translation of iso_3166.
I'm very willing to do it.
But...
For sure,
people using English will
Joey Hess wrote:
I suggest that anyone who has an idea on the matter, tell it to
Christian and Alastair.
Well, I did suggest buying a National Geographic Atlas and using the names
on that.
I also suggested using the long names for *everywhere*.
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On 3.IV.2004 at 03:24 Tetralet wrote:
If somebody goes through the trouble of creating a KDE website,then
we will include it in this list. Furthermore, we will /not/
override the site creator's preference for what to call their
geographical area (e.g., calling the Taiwan site Taiwan
Quoting Denis Barbier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Please have a look at KDE (run kcontrol, select 'Regional accessibility',
then 'Country/Region Language'), they use real short names: Macedonia
and Taiwan in these particular cases.
Their list looks much smarter than the UN one.
Well, smarter is a
--- Christian Perrier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Indeed, I found yesterday that the iso-3166 list and
FAQ gives incorrect reasons for giving TW this
controversial name.
it is correct.
They mention that the name comes from the UN list of
country, regions
and other areas for statistical use.
Alastair McKinstry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Agreed the official short names are ugly ;
(http://www.iso.org/iso/en/prods-services/iso3166ma/02iso-3166-code-lists/list-en1.html)
eg. LAO PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC, LIBYAN ARAB JAMAHIRIYA for
those countries normally called Laos and Libya.
Carlos Z.F. Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Apr 03, 2004 at 05:48:43PM -0800, Anthony Johnson wrote:
No, some of you did, but more don't(especially people
in China mainland), AFAIK.
As a chinese, I think most people in mainland won't mind using Taiwan
here. Even in many governmental
Tetralet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We, the debian users in Taiwan, Hongkong and mainland China, have
discussed about this for several days.
You may visit http://moto.debian.org.tw/viewtopic.php?t=3192 for more
details.
Yeah right, all I see is a bunch Taiwanese separatists. I'm sure
On Sat, Apr 03, 2004 at 11:27:05PM -0800, Anthony Johnson wrote:
--- Carlos Z.F. Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Apr 03, 2004 at 05:48:43PM -0800, Anthony
Johnson wrote:
No, some of you did, but more don't(especially
people
in China mainland), AFAIK.
As a chinese, I think
On Sun, Apr 04, 2004 at 08:27:38AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
Hmmm, yes, that is indeed right. We never found a way to solve this as
the short list is built on the fly.
But, there is AFAIK no bug report about this.or if there is one,
it is not assigned to countrychooser.
Someone
On Sun, Apr 04, 2004 at 06:24:02PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
Carlos Z.F. Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Apr 03, 2004 at 05:48:43PM -0800, Anthony Johnson wrote:
No, some of you did, but more don't(especially people
in China mainland), AFAIK.
As a chinese, I think most people in
Alastair McKinstry wrote:
D Domh, 2004-04-04 ag 02:53 +0200, scrobh Frans Pop:
I really think that using the 'really' short names (that is just plain
Taiwan instead of Taiwan, P.. of C..) would not be a bad compromise
despite what the official so called short UN names say.
And note that it
Herbert Xu wrote:
Carlos Z.F. Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Apr 03, 2004 at 05:48:43PM -0800, Anthony Johnson wrote:
No, some of you did, but more don't(especially people
in China mainland), AFAIK.
As a chinese, I think most people in mainland won't mind using Taiwan
here. Even in
--- Carlos Z.F. Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, you should kick CCTV and communist party's ass,
before you speak
here. IIRC, They alway said Chen Shui-Bian as
You should go back to China mainland and ask for
people there. IIRC, you are NOT located in China
mainland, right?
BTW: Do not
Herbert Xu wrote:
Carlos Z.F. Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Apr 03, 2004 at 05:48:43PM -0800, Anthony Johnson wrote:
No, some of you did, but more don't(especially people
in China mainland), AFAIK.
As a chinese, I think most people in mainland won't mind using Taiwan
here. Even in
Nathanael Nerode wrote:
So I wouldn't worry, as long as this is a list of *countries*, anyway,
since there's no other *country* called Macedonia (given that Greece
Of course, as I said elsewhere, Taiwan can't be in a country list, so you
can't deal with both at once. ;-) Oh well.
Well,
Christian Perrier wrote:
-Alastair and I recently updated the list to the most recent official
list of english and french names for countries, regions are areas of
specific geopolitical interest...exact wording of ISO-3166 list
I love the phrase of specific geopolitical interest. Yeech.
On Sunday 04 April 2004 10:38, Alastair McKinstry wrote:
Agreed the official short names are ugly ;
(http://www.iso.org/iso/en/prods-services/iso3166ma/02iso-3166-code
-lists/list-en1.html) eg. LAO PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC,
LIBYAN ARAB JAMAHIRIYA for those countries normally called Laos
On Sunday 04 April 2004 16:06, Nathanael Nerode wrote:
Well, it's only particularly crazy Greek governments which care;
most Greeks accept that Macedonia (the country) is *not* making
territorial claims on Greece Macedonia, and there are lots of other
situations in the world where a country
Quoting Herbert Xu ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
And, It is a gross disparagement to Taiwan people.
Thus some of us may refuse to use Debian anymore.
Who cares? It'd be much better if you didn't use Debian at all.
I don't think that flaming Tetralet is a big progress in this
thread. Though we have
On Sun, Apr 04, 2004 at 08:51:25PM +0300, Konstantinos Margaritis wrote:
On Sunday 04 April 2004 10:38, Alastair McKinstry wrote:
Agreed the official short names are ugly ;
(http://www.iso.org/iso/en/prods-services/iso3166ma/02iso-3166-code
-lists/list-en1.html) eg. LAO PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC
Herbert Xu wrote:
Tetralet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
People who install Debian via debian-installer will find that Taiwan
was replaced with Taiwan, Province of China.
They may not detect immediately that this country code is based on ISO-3166,
But they will think that Debian is
My original question is:
Must debian-installer use iso-codes package when choosing country,
Even though it will hurt some people, like people who living in Taiwan?
And I think your answer is YES.
We, the debian users in Taiwan, Hongkong and mainland China, have
discussed about this for several
On Sun, Apr 04, 2004 at 04:17:05AM +0800, Tetralet wrote:
Must debian-installer use iso-codes package when choosing country,
Even though it will hurt some people, like people who living in Taiwan?
And I think your answer is YES.
We, the debian users in Taiwan, Hongkong and mainland China
D Domh, 2004-04-04 ag 04:17 +0800, scrobh Tetralet:
My original question is:
Must debian-installer use iso-codes package when choosing country,
Even though it will hurt some people, like people who living in Taiwan?
And I think your answer is YES.
People who install Debian via debian
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On Saturday 03 April 2004 22:28, Steve Langasek wrote:
Will these users be installing using English or Traditional Chinese as
the language?
The problem is that some users in that area will install in English,
especially for servers.
I really think
--- Tetralet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We, the debian users in Taiwan, Hongkong and
mainland China, have
discussed about this for several days.
We all consent that to replace Taiwan with
Taiwan, Province of China
is not suitable.
No, some of you did, but more don't(especially people
in
On Sat, Apr 03, 2004 at 02:28:49PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote:
Will these users be installing using English or Traditional Chinese as
the language?
Unfortunately, even you choose Traditional Chinese in languagechooser,
you will still get english country/area names in the next screen. You
can
On Sun, Apr 04, 2004 at 02:53:08AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
I really think that using the 'really' short names (that is just plain Taiwan
instead of Taiwan, P.. of C..) would not be a bad compromise despite what the
official so called short UN names say.
After all, isn't Linux for a large
On Sat, Apr 03, 2004 at 05:48:43PM -0800, Anthony Johnson wrote:
No, some of you did, but more don't(especially people
in China mainland), AFAIK.
As a chinese, I think most people in mainland won't mind using Taiwan
here. Even in many governmental newspapers, they also use Taiwan
directly
Quoting Carlos Z.F. Liu ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Unfortunately, even you choose Traditional Chinese in languagechooser,
you will still get english country/area names in the next screen. You
can see translated names in full country list only. It's an old bug
since countrychooser was change to
Quoting Tetralet ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
You may visit http://moto.debian.org.tw/viewtopic.php?t=3192 for more
details.
Provided you read Chinese..:-)
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D Domh, 2004-04-04 ag 02:53 +0200, scrobh Frans Pop:
I really think that using the 'really' short names (that is just plain Taiwan
instead of Taiwan, P.. of C..) would not be a bad compromise despite what the
official so called short UN names say.
Agreed the official short names are ugly ;
Then use the translated iso-codes in countrychooser
--- Carlos Z.F. Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Apr 03, 2004 at 02:28:49PM -0600, Steve
Langasek wrote:
Will these users be installing using English or
Traditional Chinese as
the language?
Unfortunately, even you choose Traditional
--- Carlos Z.F. Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Apr 03, 2004 at 05:48:43PM -0800, Anthony
Johnson wrote:
No, some of you did, but more don't(especially
people
in China mainland), AFAIK.
As a chinese, I think most people in mainland won't
mind using Taiwan
I am also Chinese(please do
.
But, does UN really stay politically neutral?
Must debian-installer use iso-codes package when choosing country,
Even though it will hurt some people, like people who living in Taiwan?
I think debian-installer should try to avoid political argument,
Especially debian-installer is the gate
Martin, I try to resume the debate here :
-the country list in Debian Installer countrychooser is taken from
the iso-codes package.
-This package uses the official ISO-3166 list :
http://www.iso.org/iso/en/prods-services/iso3166ma/index.html. This
package is a work by Alastair McKinstry.
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