Re: [RFC] Add support for shells in the graphical installer

2008-07-24 Thread Jérémy Bobbio
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 04:27:24PM +0200, Davide Viti wrote: On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 02:04:59AM +0200, J??r??my Bobbio wrote: On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 08:04:29PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: That is still with the to-much-reduced font udeb, isn't it? Or did Davide already provide a new version

Re: [RFC] Add support for shells in the graphical installer

2008-07-24 Thread Jérémy Bobbio
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 07:10:38PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: On Tuesday 22 July 2008, Jérémy Bobbio wrote: If you want to have a look, I have updated the test image at: http://people.debian.org/~lunar/g-i+terminal-mini.iso I am quite happy with the result. :) Yes, much more natural

Re: [RFC] Add support for shells in the graphical installer

2008-07-24 Thread Otavio Salvador
Jérémy Bobbio [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [4] NACK [3] Further discussions after Lenny is released [1] Merge now, including cdebconf-gtk-terminal in the gtk initrd [2] Merge now, loading cdebconf-gtk-terminal on demand I would tick the third one myself. As far as I have seen, the memory

Re: [RFC] Add support for shells in the graphical installer

2008-07-23 Thread Davide Viti
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 02:04:59AM +0200, J??r??my Bobbio wrote: On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 08:04:29PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: That is still with the to-much-reduced font udeb, isn't it? Or did Davide already provide a new version for you? I have used the last one mentioned by Davide on the

Re: [RFC] Add support for shells in the graphical installer

2008-07-23 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 22 July 2008, Jérémy Bobbio wrote: If you want to have a look, I have updated the test image at: http://people.debian.org/~lunar/g-i+terminal-mini.iso I am quite happy with the result. :) Yes, much more natural IMO. For the goback confirmation dialog I suggest changing the text

Re: [RFC] Add support for shells in the graphical installer

2008-07-21 Thread Davide Viti
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 08:04:29PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: On Sunday 20 July 2008, Jérémy Bobbio wrote: On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 01:47:17PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: Current size numbers (with the last ttf-dejavu-mono-udeb): That is still with the to-much-reduced font udeb, isn't it? Or did

Re: [RFC] Add support for shells in the graphical installer

2008-07-21 Thread Jérémy Bobbio
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 08:04:29PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: On Sunday 20 July 2008, Jérémy Bobbio wrote: On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 01:47:17PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: Ok, the behaviour I have implemented today: * When the terminal process exits, the plugin exit as well. * The Continue

Re: [RFC] Add support for shells in the graphical installer

2008-07-20 Thread Jérémy Bobbio
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:04:16PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: Davide, is there any special things that we should know about Chinese in DejaVu-Mono? Dejavu* do not contain any glyph falling in the Chinee range, so I guess they're taken out of the ttf-cjk-compact-udeb (which I guess is

Re: [RFC] Add support for shells in the graphical installer

2008-07-20 Thread Jérémy Bobbio
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 01:47:17PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: Why is the Continue button needed? Could an active Go back button be shown instead of the Continue that (after a warning) just kills the plug-in if it is clicked (the mouse is still active after all)? I need to think of a

Re: [RFC] Add support for shells in the graphical installer

2008-07-20 Thread Otavio Salvador
Jérémy Bobbio [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 01:47:17PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: Why is the Continue button needed? Could an active Go back button be shown instead of the Continue that (after a warning) just kills the plug-in if it is clicked (the mouse is still active

Re: [RFC] Add support for shells in the graphical installer

2008-07-20 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 20 July 2008, Jérémy Bobbio wrote: On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 01:47:17PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: Ok, the behaviour I have implemented today: * When the terminal process exits, the plugin exit as well. * The Continue button has been replaced with a Go back button. * When pressed, the

Re: [RFC] Add support for shells in the graphical installer

2008-07-19 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 16 July 2008, Jérémy Bobbio wrote: However, I do see that this implementation is simpler and there were issues with the tabs, so post-Lenny for that is fine. The tabs should, IMHO, come with a wider redesign of the current interface. Debian is going to be installed on more and

Re: [RFC] Add support for shells in the graphical installer

2008-07-16 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Frans Pop ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I would make that: In the meantime you can make use of the debug shells available on VT2 and VT3. Press Ctrl+Alt+F2 to switch to VT2. When you are done, use Alt+F5 to return to the installer. Isn't VT a little bit of jargon, by the way? Couldn't we

Re: [RFC] Add support for shells in the graphical installer

2008-07-16 Thread Jérémy Bobbio
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 01:35:45AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: Main thing still is that it's great to have a graphical shell and that it would be a real plus if we can get it ready in time for Lenny. At the same time, it should IMO be solid enough to be included. First and most importantly:

Re: [RFC] Add support for shells in the graphical installer

2008-07-16 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 16 July 2008, Davide Viti wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 03:31:56PM +0200, J??r??my Bobbio wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 01:35:45AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: - Chinese looks reasonable: fairly sharp but some characters are much brighter than others (varying from very dark grey

Re: [RFC] Add support for shells in the graphical installer

2008-07-15 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 10 July 2008, Jérémy Bobbio wrote: I'd really like to see this before forming a final opinion, especially as it has an impact on the graphical installer as a whole. Ok, here it is: I've played around with it quite a lot and here are my comments. I realize that this is an

Re: [RFC] Add support for shells in the graphical installer

2008-07-15 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 16 July 2008, Frans Pop wrote: Other problem related to rescue mode: a shell gets executed without any warning just before rescue mode (possibly because the wrong position in the menu). Also, the informational message before entering the rescue shell is a lot less informational

Re: [RFC] Add support for shells in the graphical installer

2008-07-11 Thread Jérémy Bobbio
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 07:50:41PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:  * libncurses5-udeb needed by libvte. For this one we need to be careful that others don't start using it for other purposes which may get it included in normal initrds. It's not huge, but still. This could be prevented

Re: [RFC] Add support for shells in the graphical installer

2008-07-11 Thread Davide Viti
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 07:53:33PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: On Wednesday 09 July 2008, Davide Viti wrote: On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 03:56:28PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: I would not have thought anything higher than 2100 (inclusive, so after general punctuation) will ever be needed in the

Re: [RFC] Add support for shells in the graphical installer

2008-07-11 Thread Frans Pop
On Saturday 12 July 2008, Davide Viti wrote: I think you mean u210 [...] I changed the stripping rule (for mono) as to strip all but u0..u210 No. This strips more than I intended. The Cyrillic and Latin Extended sets for example should IMO remain included. I really meant u2100: Letterlike

Re: [RFC] Add support for shells in the graphical installer

2008-07-10 Thread Jérémy Bobbio
On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 05:02:08PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: The result is quite nice, and the user experience is very similar between the different frontends. The impact on the current code by these changes are really low and they should be seen as strong candidate for inclusion in Lenny.

Re: [RFC] Add support for shells in the graphical installer

2008-07-10 Thread Jérémy Bobbio
On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 05:02:08PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: I can't provide a test image right now as I am lacking the necessary network connectivity. I will try to provide one as soon as possible. I'd really like to see this before forming a final opinion, especially as it has an impact

Re: [RFC] Add support for shells in the graphical installer

2008-07-10 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 10 July 2008, Jérémy wrote: Questions: - What is size increase of initrd with this included? [...] Thanks for the numbers. Those are pretty hefty runtime demands (total of 2.5 MB for first shell). However, I guess it's still not completely absurd for what G-I already uses and

Re: [RFC] Add support for shells in the graphical installer

2008-07-10 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 09 July 2008, Davide Viti wrote: On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 03:56:28PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: I would not have thought anything higher than 2100 (inclusive, so after general punctuation) will ever be needed in the context of a D-I shell. I'm applying the same reduction script

Re: [RFC] Add support for shells in the graphical installer

2008-07-10 Thread Joey Hess
Christian Perrier wrote: The 'terminal' plugin, which is required to open a shell, is not available. Please load it from the main menu in 'Loading additional components'. The 'cdebconf-gtk-terminal' module, which is required to open a shell, is not available. Please load it from the main menu

Re: [RFC] Add support for shells in the graphical installer

2008-07-09 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Jérémy Bobbio ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): +Template: debconf/terminal/gtk/child-exit +Type: text +_Description: Shell process has exited. Well, I don't like it..:-) Not sure what would be the best. Where is this displayed ? Inside a box ? Inside the terminal to indicate

Re: [RFC] Add support for shells in the graphical installer

2008-07-09 Thread Jérémy Bobbio
On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 06:56:21AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: Well, then I suggest End of shell process. Done. The 'terminal' plugin, which is required to open a shell, is not available. Please load it from the main menu in 'Loading additional components'. There is no need to

Re: [RFC] Add support for shells in the graphical installer

2008-07-09 Thread Davide Viti
Hi, On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 10:42:39PM +0200, Davide Viti wrote: On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 06:01:54PM +0200, J??r??my Bobbio wrote: The attached patchset adds support for shells in the graphical installer: Execute a shell in menu, and rescue-mode shells can now be used in the graphical

Re: [RFC] Add support for shells in the graphical installer

2008-07-09 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 09 July 2008, Davide Viti wrote: I've worked on your patch and generated a test ttf-dejavu 2.25-2 package whose files are available in [1]; there you will also find an updated version of your patch and a pdf chart showing all the available glyphs. I would not have thought

Re: [RFC] Add support for shells in the graphical installer

2008-07-09 Thread Davide Viti
On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 03:56:28PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: I would not have thought anything higher than 2100 (inclusive, so after general punctuation) will ever be needed in the context of a D-I shell. I'm applying the same reduction script used for stripping ttf-dejavu-udeb_2.25-2_all.udeb;

Re: [RFC] Add support for shells in the graphical installer

2008-07-09 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 08 July 2008, =?iso-8859-1?B?Suly6W15?= Bobbio wrote: The attached patchset adds support for shells in the graphical installer: Execute a shell in menu, and rescue-mode shells can now be used in the graphical installer. Great work Jérémy, but... The result is quite nice, and the

Re: [RFC] Add support for shells in the graphical installer

2008-07-08 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Jérémy Bobbio ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): This patch adds 6 new translatable debconf templates. They worth a review, for sure. :) Grmbl...:-)...maybe some day, I have the hope to have a stable basis for our translators. These days, they're hunting a moving target...:-) OK, let's review the

Re: [RFC] Add support for shells in the graphical installer

2008-07-08 Thread Justin B Rye
Christian Perrier wrote: +Template: di-utils-shell/workaround-gtk +Type: text +# :sl2: +_Description: In the meantime, a shell is still accessible by pressing Ctrl+Alt+F2. Use Alt+F5 to get back to the installer. + Alternatively, you can open a shell by pression Ctrl+Alt+F2. Use Alt+F5

Re: [RFC] Add support for shells in the graphical installer

2008-07-08 Thread Davide Viti
On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 06:01:54PM +0200, J??r??my Bobbio wrote: The attached patchset adds support for shells in the graphical installer: Execute a shell in menu, and rescue-mode shells can now be used in the graphical installer. this is really great! cdebconf-gtk-terminal requires three

Re: [RFC] Add support for shells in the graphical installer

2008-07-08 Thread Davide Viti
On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 10:42:39PM +0200, Davide Viti wrote: On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 06:01:54PM +0200, J??r??my Bobbio wrote: The attached patchset adds support for shells in the graphical installer: Execute a shell in menu, and rescue-mode shells can now be used in the graphical installer.

Re: [RFC] Add support for shells in the graphical installer

2008-07-08 Thread Jérémy Bobbio
On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 07:49:30PM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: Quoting Jérémy Bobbio ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): This patch adds 6 new translatable debconf templates. They worth a review, for sure. :) Grmbl...:-)...maybe some day, I have the hope to have a stable basis for our