Andrew Sharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
We only care when you do -- and if bugs are filed, then no one cares.
Um, say what? Did you mean to say 'if no bugs are filed, then no
one cares.'?
Yah, oops.
I don't mind your brainstorming about a much better installation
system, but that
Ethan Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
is debian-installer going to do this the same way? copying the kernel
from the `rescue' disk if thats what it still ends be up being called.
I doubt it -- they use .udebs for this kinda stuff I bet.
--
.Adam Di [EMAIL
Andrew Sharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The answer is another question, how wide spread do we want the use
of Debian to be? In FreeBSD, it works quite well, and there is no
reason it can't work this way on Debian: you enter your network
settings, it goes off and tries to get the packages, it
Adam Di Carlo wrote:
Andrew Sharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The answer is another question, how wide spread do we want the use
of Debian to be? In FreeBSD, it works quite well, and there is no
reason it can't work this way on Debian: you enter your network
settings, it goes off and
On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 01:52:31PM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote:
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 12:40:07AM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
Michael Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The 'rescue floppy' doesn't even work as this on a whole other bunch of
architectures I bet. Can you boot from
Sven LUTHER [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I have installed (on i386) potato (r0 i think) from CD, and this is exactly
how it works. it gets the linux file and the modules.tar.gz to get the
modules.
No, that's wishful thinking. See choose_medium.c:
char kernel_image_path[PATH_MAX+1] =
On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 10:53:35AM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
Sven LUTHER [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I have installed (on i386) potato (r0 i think) from CD, and this is exactly
how it works. it gets the linux file and the modules.tar.gz to get the
modules.
No, that's wishful thinking.
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 12:40:07AM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
Michael Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The 'rescue floppy' doesn't even work as this on a whole other bunch of
architectures I bet. Can you boot from this floppy on sparc?
Sure.
Only on architecture, PowerPC, is in bad
Adam C Powell IV wrote:
Ethan Benson wrote:
well frankly you need to know the fscking network numbers before going
to setup a computer on the network, if you don't know what your
network numbers are that can hardly be blamed on debian. dammit Jim
im an installer not a psychic!
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 05:09:53PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 04:41:28PM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
i don't think its possible to make a generic rescue image that will
boot all the various powerpcs, but isn't there several different
versions of it anyway for the
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 12:40:07AM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
Michael Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The 'rescue floppy' doesn't even work as this on a whole other bunch of
architectures I bet. Can you boot from this floppy on sparc?
Sure.
Only on architecture, PowerPC, is in bad
Sven LUTHER [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
But i was told a long time ago this was not ok, because you have to make sure
that the kernel used is the same as the modules used.
Is this no mor ethe case ?
No, it's the case, but you can grab the right kernel for your flavor
and subarchitecture
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 04:41:28PM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
i don't think its possible to make a generic rescue image that will
boot all the various powerpcs, but isn't there several different
versions of it anyway for the different powerpc sub-archs?
Seems like a moot point since we
Michael Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The 'rescue floppy' doesn't even work as this on a whole other bunch of
architectures I bet. Can you boot from this floppy on sparc?
Sure.
Only on architecture, PowerPC, is in bad enough shape to require one
image for actual booting (when possible at
Andrew Sharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What I was thinking was that a more sophisticated method for
generating the docs could be utilized. Something that would pull
arch specific sections from the right places and insert them into
the doc just before placing that doc at its intended
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 12:40:07AM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
Michael Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The 'rescue floppy' doesn't even work as this on a whole other bunch of
architectures I bet. Can you boot from this floppy on sparc?
Sure.
Only on architecture, PowerPC, is in bad
Does anybody have an idea where to get the 'boot-floppy-hfs.img' from
the potato 2.2r0 release - I believe I will need them to have a chance
to install linux on a naked PowerMac (I have deleted my Mac-OS partitions
when first trying to install Linux ...).
-jr
--
Johannes
Is this what you are looking for?
http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/disks-powerpc/current/powermac/images-1.44/boot-floppy-hfs.img
David
Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 10:13:48PM +0100 wrote:
Does anybody have an idea where to get the 'boot-floppy-hfs.img' from
the potato 2.2r0 release
No, no, yes, and ... no. I have one with a 2.2.17 kernel on it
which isn't good for installations of 2.2r2 because they use the
2.2.18 kernel, so you get these problems with modules but it
_is_ good for a rescue floppy! Just kidding, I don't want to start
the rescue floppy thing again; you
At 16:40 +0100 3/4/01, Ethan Benson wrote:
On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 03:13:10PM +0100, Geert Stappers wrote:
"Boot-floppies" isn't the best name for this software.
the replacment for the current `boot-floppies' is called
debian-installer.
blush/
Will this Mailing list move to debian-testing?
Michael Schmitz wrote:
syslinux actually. and it can take a root= argument but if you don't
give a root= argument you get a root disk prompt.
Yeah, that's what I said/meant. The boot-floppy-hfs.img floppy
doesn't work the same way as the rescue floppy does for other
At 21:34 +0100 3/3/01, Michael Schmitz wrote:
syslinux actually. and it can take a root= argument but if you don't
give a root= argument you get a root disk prompt.
Yeah, that's what I said/meant. The boot-floppy-hfs.img floppy
doesn't work the same way as the rescue floppy does for
On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 03:29:06AM -0800, Andrew Sharp wrote:
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that in fact the rescue floppy is
bootable on any arch that can boot a CD. Because the bootable part
of the CD is really just the rescue floppy image. So technically
uh no, only on x86 or any
On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 03:13:10PM +0100, Geert Stappers wrote:
"Boot-floppies" isn't the best name for this software.
the replacment for the current `boot-floppies' is called
debian-installer.
--
Ethan Benson
http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/
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syslinux actually. and it can take a root= argument but if you don't
give a root= argument you get a root disk prompt.
Yeah, that's what I said/meant. The boot-floppy-hfs.img floppy
doesn't work the same way as the rescue floppy does for other
architectures. My point is that for
Ethan Benson wrote:
On Mon, Feb 26, 2001 at 08:21:18PM -0800, Andrew Sharp wrote:
I've never needed rescue.bin for that. Granted I've only done two
installs. ~:^) But there are two images called driver-1.bin and
driver-2.bin which one might guess have drivers on them. Never used
At 13:45 +0100 2/27/01, Marco d'Itri wrote:
On Feb 27, Andrew Sharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There are two floppy images in the powerpc dist that might be
mentioned. One is called rescue.bin, the other boot-floppy-hfs.img,
and hence a newbie might easily think that the former is the rescue
Why can't we just use a Disk Tools floppy or something to run that
m68k booting app? (The Debian version of BootX, I forgot the name.) That's
what I'm planning to do anyway, within a few days...taking the minimal
System/Finder from the Net Install floppy (the README that comes with it
spefically
A slight correction to my message: I meant "BootX-like Debian-tool for
m68k/Mac"...BootX itself is for powermacs. *sigh* I'm so very sleepy...
On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, John Anthony Kazos Jr. wrote:
Why can't we just use a Disk Tools floppy or something to run that
m68k booting app? (The Debian
On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 07:18:14PM -0500, John Anthony Kazos Jr. wrote:
Why can't we just use a Disk Tools floppy or something to run that
m68k booting app? (The Debian version of BootX, I forgot the name.) That's
what I'm planning to do anyway, within a few days...taking the minimal
On Mon, Feb 26, 2001 at 08:21:18PM -0800, Andrew Sharp wrote:
Ethan Benson wrote:
On Mon, Feb 26, 2001 at 02:48:40PM -0800, Andrew Sharp wrote:
Um, yeah, that must be what I meant. Actually, what I meant is
this: the docs constantly talk about booting the rescue floppy for
this
On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote:
On Mon, Feb 26, 2001 at 11:35:50PM -0800, Tovar wrote:
just my crazy suggestion, if you can't get the keyboard to work right
for the rootdisk prompt, what about changing it to wait 10 or 15
seconds for a rootdisk insertion and then
On Feb 27, Andrew Sharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There are two floppy images in the powerpc dist that might be
mentioned. One is called rescue.bin, the other boot-floppy-hfs.img,
and hence a newbie might easily think that the former is the rescue
floppy mentioned often in the docs, but is
Hallo Kenney,
The boot-floppies are indeed for all architectures.
But for this question, debian-powerpc is a better place to ask.
( there CC-ed )
At 20:25 +0100 2/26/01, Kenney Mark wrote:
All,
I want to install Debian on a Mac, and can get my Power Macintosh 8500/120
to the Open Firmware
Welcome to the powerpc boot floppy fiasco. The rescue floppy will
only work on New World macs, and yours is an old world. The
boot-floppy-hfs.img file is the image of a bootable floppy for the
old world macs for install purposes, but it has a keyboard issue and
doesn't work without some
On Mon, Feb 26, 2001 at 02:28:55PM -0800, Andrew Sharp wrote:
Welcome to the powerpc boot floppy fiasco. The rescue floppy will
only work on New World macs, and yours is an old world. The
That's just not true. The rescue floppy is not meant to be booted off
of on this architecture at all.
Um, yeah, that must be what I meant. Actually, what I meant is
this: the docs constantly talk about booting the rescue floppy for
this that and the other. But the "rescue" floppy for the powerpc
port is an ext2 file system, and doesn't boot at all on old world
macs, and I just assumed that it
On Mon, Feb 26, 2001 at 02:48:40PM -0800, Andrew Sharp wrote:
Um, yeah, that must be what I meant. Actually, what I meant is
this: the docs constantly talk about booting the rescue floppy for
this that and the other. But the "rescue" floppy for the powerpc
port is an ext2 file system, and
Ethan Benson wrote:
On Mon, Feb 26, 2001 at 02:48:40PM -0800, Andrew Sharp wrote:
Um, yeah, that must be what I meant. Actually, what I meant is
this: the docs constantly talk about booting the rescue floppy for
this that and the other. But the "rescue" floppy for the powerpc
port is
On Mon, Feb 26, 2001 at 08:21:18PM -0800, Andrew Sharp wrote:
I've never needed rescue.bin for that. Granted I've only done two
installs. ~:^) But there are two images called driver-1.bin and
driver-2.bin which one might guess have drivers on them. Never used
those either.
every
just my crazy suggestion, if you can't get the keyboard to work right
for the rootdisk prompt, what about changing it to wait 10 or 15
seconds for a rootdisk insertion and then continuing? would that be
difficult/messy to implement?
Well, the standard Mac way of doing things is
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