Re: moving graphical installer to GTK 3

2021-05-20 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 08:54:29AM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 5/20/21 12:54 AM, Steve McIntyre wrote: > > Even if was decided to recommend that new users use live media for > > installations, the flexibility of d-i is massively powerful, and we > > shouldn't give up on it. The

Re: moving graphical installer to GTK 3

2021-05-20 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 5/20/21 12:54 AM, Steve McIntyre wrote: > Even if was decided to recommend that new users use live media for > installations, the flexibility of d-i is massively powerful, and we > shouldn't give up on it. The ability to support everything from a > serial terminal up to a graphical installer on

Re: moving graphical installer to GTK 3

2021-05-20 Thread john doe
On 5/20/2021 12:54 AM, Steve McIntyre wrote: On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 01:27:56AM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Simon McVittie (2021-05-17): Even if was decided to recommend that new users use live media for installations, the flexibility of d-i is massively powerful, and we shouldn't give up

Re: moving graphical installer to GTK 3

2021-05-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
Steve McIntyre, le mer. 19 mai 2021 23:54:06 +0100, a ecrit: > We could quite readily improve some of the more difficult areas of > today's d-i by adding support for (say) Python 3 That would also open the path for the Orca screen reader, that some blind people would like to have :) Samuel

Re: moving graphical installer to GTK 3

2021-05-19 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 01:27:56AM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: >Simon McVittie (2021-05-17): > >> I also think the beginning of Debian 12 would be a good time to >> reconsider whether the graphical d-i mode is really the best way for >> non-expert users to install Debian. The restricted

Re: moving graphical installer to GTK 3

2021-05-17 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Simon McVittie (2021-05-17): > My biggest concern about cdebconf and GTK 3 is that it's relying on the > ability to call into GTK APIs from more than one thread. GTK 2 tried to > support this pattern, with gdk_threads_enter() and gdk_threads_leave() > providing locking, but it turned out not to

Re: moving graphical installer to GTK 3

2021-05-17 Thread Simon McVittie
On Mon, 17 May 2021 at 17:48:45 +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > I've checked what would > happen with GTK 3 in cdebconf and cdebconf-gtk-terminal (I had forgotten > about cdebconf-gtk-entropy until writing this reply). I think it's much too late in the Debian 11 cycle to be doing this for Debian