Re: Should D-I install console-setup with kbd and console-tools or not?

2010-03-18 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 15 March 2010, Anton Zinoviev wrote: -apt-install console-setup || true +apt-install --with-recommends console-setup || true Yes, trivial, but somehow I don't like this. I don't see why c-s has to be the package that ensures that kbd is installed. What if for some reason some

Re: Should D-I install console-setup with kbd and console-tools or not?

2010-03-15 Thread Anton Zinoviev
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 06:46:14PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: Changing d-i because of c-s seems wrong to me. It's not actually a change in D-I. There's simply more than one way to Rome. The difference is this: --- kbd-chooser/post-base-installer.d/20kbd-chooser (revision 62565) +++

Re: Should D-I install console-setup with kbd and console-tools or not?

2010-03-14 Thread Anton Zinoviev
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 08:15:53AM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: D-I does not follow Recommends during base-installer (as discussed last month). This means that currently console-setup gets installed without kbd and console-tools. This is wrong. Console-setup can not configure the console

Re: Should D-I install console-setup with kbd and console-tools or not?

2010-03-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
Anton Zinoviev, le Sun 14 Mar 2010 12:39:08 +0200, a écrit : In the past c-s used strong dependency but I changed it to only recommends because of request by porters working on architectures which do not have kbd or console-tools (i.e. BSD). The dependency could be dropped on those archs

Re: Should D-I install console-setup with kbd and console-tools or not?

2010-03-14 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 14 March 2010, Anton Zinoviev wrote: On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 08:15:53AM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: D-I does not follow Recommends during base-installer (as discussed last month). This means that currently console-setup gets installed without kbd and console-tools. This is wrong.

Re: Should D-I install console-setup with kbd and console-tools or not?

2010-03-14 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 14 March 2010, Samuel Thibault wrote: Anton Zinoviev, le Sun 14 Mar 2010 12:39:08 +0200, a écrit : In the past c-s used strong dependency but I changed it to only recommends because of request by porters working on architectures which do not have kbd or console-tools (i.e. BSD).

Re: Should D-I install console-setup with kbd and console-tools or not?

2010-03-14 Thread Anton Zinoviev
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 12:39:20PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: Partly. It depends on how APT is configured. And at that point in the installation it's configured not to install Recommends by default. After base-installer we _do_ install Recommends by default. We can also use a parameter when

Re: Should D-I install console-setup with kbd and console-tools or not?

2010-03-14 Thread Anton Zinoviev
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 06:31:04PM +0200, Anton Zinoviev wrote: and the installer should force the installation of keyboard-configuration instead of console-setup). Only on the architectures without working kbd (the BSD and the Hurd architectures). Anton Zinoviev -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: Should D-I install console-setup with kbd and console-tools or not?

2010-03-14 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 14 March 2010, Anton Zinoviev wrote: I am realy surprised by all of this. What was causing kbd or console-tools to be installed in the past (before console-setup)? We used to explicitly install 'console-tools console-data console-common'. Probably exactly because Recommends were not

Re: Should D-I install console-setup with kbd and console-tools or not?

2010-03-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
Frans Pop, le Sun 14 Mar 2010 18:46:14 +0100, a écrit : Does that mean console-setup itself is essentially useless on kfreebsd and hurd? The Hurd console directly understands xkb keymaps and loads fonts itself. Samuel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Should D-I install console-setup with kbd and console-tools or not?

2010-03-13 Thread Frans Pop
Hi Anton, D-I does not follow Recommends during base-installer (as discussed last month). This means that currently console-setup gets installed without kbd and console-tools. Would it be better in your opinion to force installation of Recommends for console-setup? What exactly is the