Samuel Thibault samuel.thiba...@ens-lyon.org writes:
Giacomo Catenazzi, le Wed 08 Apr 2009 19:47:55 +0200, a écrit :
Samuel Thibault wrote:
I installed grub (and Debian). Trying the Windows hidden partition
(to install windows), grub stopped working (it was rescue mode, but
without
Giacomo A. Catenazzi c...@debian.org writes:
Ferenc Wagner wrote:
Giacomo A. Catenazzi c...@debian.org writes:
Does grub use the unallocated disk space near the MBR?
Yes. As far as I know, even grub2 does so, but pls. correct me.
So next question: why does windoze installation write to
Samuel Thibault wrote:
Giacomo Catenazzi, le Wed 08 Apr 2009 19:47:55 +0200, a écrit :
Samuel Thibault wrote:
I installed grub (and Debian). Trying the Windows hidden partition
(to install windows), grub stopped working (it was rescue mode, but
without capability to rescue something). Also
Giacomo A. Catenazzi c...@debian.org writes:
Does grub use the unallocated disk space near the MBR?
Yes. As far as I know, even grub2 does so, but pls. correct me.
there was a discussion about poor performance if partitions/
filesystem was not aligned to the physical block sectors.
I also
Ferenc Wagner wrote:
Giacomo A. Catenazzi c...@debian.org writes:
Does grub use the unallocated disk space near the MBR?
Yes. As far as I know, even grub2 does so, but pls. correct me.
So next question: why does windoze installation write to these block
(but not to MBR)? Ah, ok the
Nenolod: sorry for the other mail.
William Pitcock wrote:
On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 13:06 -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote:
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 9:21 PM, William Pitcock
neno...@sacredspiral.co.uk wrote:
Lilo upstream is dead (no release in quite a while), but the lilo
maintainer has also been seen
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
as grub was not really maintained. Also grub2 doesn't seems so fast in
development.
I think these kind of project have difficult to maintain motivated
maintainer.
I would really love to own a computer that used coreboot, Linux and
As the silent co-maintainer of lilo I believe I should now voice my
thoughts on this
I too believe that lilo should belive that lilo should be remove *at
some point* but now is not the time. So I restate my willingness to
take over fully publicly. Upstream made a release of a bootloader in
2007 a
On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 11:05 -0400, Matt Arnold wrote:
As the silent co-maintainer of lilo I believe I should now voice my
thoughts on this
I too believe that lilo should belive that lilo should be remove *at
some point* but now is not the time. So I restate my willingness to
take over fully
On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 16:22 +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
Nenolod: sorry for the other mail.
William Pitcock wrote:
On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 13:06 -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote:
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 9:21 PM, William Pitcock
neno...@sacredspiral.co.uk wrote:
Lilo upstream is dead (no
I installed grub (and Debian). Trying the Windows hidden partition
(to install windows), grub stopped working (it was rescue mode, but
without capability to rescue something). Also rescue disk +
reconfiguring + update-grub did nothing.
Err, did you re-run install-grub?
Samuel
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Hi Frans!
* Frans Pop elen...@planet.nl [2009-04-07 21:37]:
On Tuesday 07 April 2009, Martin Wuertele wrote:
Data from /var/log/installer is available at
http://asteria.debian.or.at/~maxx/.var_log_installer.tar.gz
The syslog shows:
Mar 6 17:19:36 grub-installer: /boot is a lvm volume
Samuel Thibault wrote:
I installed grub (and Debian). Trying the Windows hidden partition
(to install windows), grub stopped working (it was rescue mode, but
without capability to rescue something). Also rescue disk +
reconfiguring + update-grub did nothing.
Err, did you re-run
On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 11:21:12AM -0500, William Pitcock wrote:
Does this mean that you will become lilo upstream as well? Are you
*qualified* to become lilo upstream? Do you know assembly language?
(tip: most of the important parts are assembly language.)
If not, then stop talking now.
On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 11:05:43AM -0500, William Pitcock wrote:
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 08:53 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 10:13:32AM -0500, William Pitcock wrote:
I agree here too. I think these install paths could be replaced by
ext2linux as well, if that is what
On Wednesday 08 April 2009, Martin Wuertele wrote:
* Frans Pop elen...@planet.nl [2009-04-07 21:37]:
The syslog shows:
Mar 6 17:19:36 grub-installer: /boot is a lvm volume
(/dev/mapper/kronos0-root), cannot install grub
Which is confirmed by the hardware summary, which does not show a
Giacomo Catenazzi, le Wed 08 Apr 2009 19:47:55 +0200, a écrit :
Samuel Thibault wrote:
I installed grub (and Debian). Trying the Windows hidden partition
(to install windows), grub stopped working (it was rescue mode, but
without capability to rescue something). Also rescue disk +
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 22:20 +0100, Stephen Gran wrote:
This one time, at band camp, William Pitcock said:
The only way it is feasible to do so is to drop all of the Debian
patches. Without this, upstream is not cooperative with us.
Why is this?
See my other mail, basically, lilo upstream
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 18:46 +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
Quoting Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl):
I'm not sure where the original mail comes from, but IMO this should be
From lilo package BTS which I was tracking for l10n purposes. So I
just happened to notice William's answer to a bug
Stephen Gran wrote:
This one time, at band camp, William Pitcock said:
The only way it is feasible to do so is to drop all of the Debian
patches. Without this, upstream is not cooperative with us.
Why is this?
I think because of William Pitcock with:
- his very strong words,
- his attitude:
Let's move this subthread back to d-boot. Reply-to set.
Please let us know if you'd like to be CCed.
Martin Wuertele wrote:
* Frans Pop elen...@planet.nl [2009-04-07 02:54]:
Martin Wuertele wrote:
Actually lilo is installed by lenny d-i if you use root-sw-raid with
LVM, even if your /boot
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 9:21 PM, William Pitcock
neno...@sacredspiral.co.uk wrote:
Lilo upstream is dead (no release in quite a while), but the lilo
maintainer has also been seen as saying in various mailing lists etc,
that since Debian patches lilo that he has no interest in helping to fix
On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 10:52 +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
Stephen Gran wrote:
This one time, at band camp, William Pitcock said:
The only way it is feasible to do so is to drop all of the Debian
patches. Without this, upstream is not cooperative with us.
Why is this?
I think
On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 13:06 -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote:
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 9:21 PM, William Pitcock
neno...@sacredspiral.co.uk wrote:
Lilo upstream is dead (no release in quite a while), but the lilo
maintainer has also been seen as saying in various mailing lists etc,
that since
On Tuesday 07 April 2009, Martin Wuertele wrote:
Data from /var/log/installer is available at
http://asteria.debian.or.at/~maxx/.var_log_installer.tar.gz
The syslog shows:
Mar 6 17:19:36 grub-installer: /boot is a lvm volume
(/dev/mapper/kronos0-root), cannot install grub
Which is confirmed
* Frans Pop elen...@planet.nl [2009-04-07 14:51]:
Let's move this subthread back to d-boot. Reply-to set.
Please let us know if you'd like to be CCed.
CC me if you need any more details than below:
The system runs Lenny, details:
pratitions:
Disk /dev/sda: 250.0 GB, 250059350016 bytes
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Quoting William Pitcock (neno...@dereferenced.org):
lilo is due for removal anyway due to being unmaintained upstream and
the widespread availability of alternatives.
I do not have time to manage the removal at this point, but it will be
gone by June.
This is a heads up mail for the D-I
On Monday 06 April 2009, Christian Perrier wrote:
Quoting William Pitcock (neno...@dereferenced.org):
lilo is due for removal anyway due to being unmaintained upstream and
the widespread availability of alternatives.
I think that last part is debatable.
I do not have time to manage the
On Mon Apr 06 08:55, Frans Pop wrote:
This is a heads up mail for the D-I team.
I'm not sure where the original mail comes from, but IMO this should be
discussed on d-devel, especially since it impacts more than just D-I. I
suspect there are quite a few packages that make some sort of
Matthew Johnson mj...@debian.org writes:
On Mon Apr 06 08:55, Frans Pop wrote:
This is a heads up mail for the D-I team.
I'm not sure where the original mail comes from, but IMO this should be
discussed on d-devel, especially since it impacts more than just D-I. I
suspect there are
On Mon Apr 06 11:07, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
So lets get grub2 working everywhere. :) A worthy goal.
Sure, but don't remove lilo until we're happy that grub2 does work
everywhere.
Matt
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Frans Pop elen...@planet.nl writes:
On Monday 06 April 2009, Christian Perrier wrote:
[...]
I do not have time to manage the removal at this point, but it will
be gone by June.
Has the package already been offered for adoption? Preferably with an
overview of its current (upstream)
Frans Pop wrote:
On Monday 06 April 2009, Christian Perrier wrote:
Quoting William Pitcock (neno...@dereferenced.org):
lilo is due for removal anyway due to being unmaintained upstream and
the widespread availability of alternatives.
I think that last part is debatable.
I do not have time
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 06:42 +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
Quoting William Pitcock (neno...@dereferenced.org):
lilo is due for removal anyway due to being unmaintained upstream and
the widespread availability of alternatives.
I do not have time to manage the removal at this point, but
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 10:44 -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote:
Frans Pop elen...@planet.nl writes:
On Monday 06 April 2009, Christian Perrier wrote:
[...]
I do not have time to manage the removal at this point, but it will
be gone by June.
Has the package already been offered for
William Pitcock wrote:
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 17:26 +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
Frans Pop wrote:
On Monday 06 April 2009, Christian Perrier wrote:
Quoting William Pitcock (neno...@dereferenced.org):
lilo is due for removal anyway due to being unmaintained upstream and
the widespread
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 17:26 +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
Frans Pop wrote:
On Monday 06 April 2009, Christian Perrier wrote:
Quoting William Pitcock (neno...@dereferenced.org):
lilo is due for removal anyway due to being unmaintained upstream and
the widespread availability of
On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 10:13:32AM -0500, William Pitcock wrote:
And, I think this should be mentioned as a release goal (dropping
lilo). Either high priority if we have install paths depending on
lilo, or normal priority otherwise.
I agree here too. I think these install paths could be
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 17:40 +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
William Pitcock wrote:
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 17:26 +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
Frans Pop wrote:
On Monday 06 April 2009, Christian Perrier wrote:
Quoting William Pitcock (neno...@dereferenced.org):
lilo is due for
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 08:53 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 10:13:32AM -0500, William Pitcock wrote:
And, I think this should be mentioned as a release goal (dropping
lilo). Either high priority if we have install paths depending on
lilo, or normal priority
Quoting Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl):
I'm not sure where the original mail comes from, but IMO this should be
From lilo package BTS which I was tracking for l10n purposes. So I
just happened to notice William's answer to a bug report and thought
it would be good for this to be discussed in
This one time, at band camp, William Pitcock said:
The only way it is feasible to do so is to drop all of the Debian
patches. Without this, upstream is not cooperative with us.
Why is this?
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On Mon, 06 Apr 2009, Matthew Johnson wrote:
On Mon Apr 06 11:07, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
So lets get grub2 working everywhere. :) A worthy goal.
Sure, but don't remove lilo until we're happy that grub2 does work
everywhere.
And that we have something resembling acceptable, up-to-date
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