Re: Re: ntfs resize and gtk frontends

2004-01-23 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 11:06:00AM +1100, Andrew Clausen wrote: On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 08:16:32PM +0100, Szakacsits Szabolcs wrote: This is a real problem, but again not one of libparted per see, more one linked to the fact that there is no open CVS or whatever repository. This has to

Re: Re: ntfs resize and gtk frontends

2004-01-23 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 02:19:02AM +0100, Szakacsits Szabolcs wrote: - most distros ship parted but I don't know any who ships ocaml Debian :) Well, in that case Mandrake also :) All major distros do, i think. After all it is used in software as mldonkey, coq, and apparently also

Re: [Linux-NTFS-Dev] Re: Re: ntfs resize and gtk frontends

2004-01-23 Thread Andrew Clausen
On Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 02:19:02AM +0100, Szakacsits Szabolcs wrote: This patch only solves half the problem. I guess it's the important half though. (The other half is getting Parted to talk to you in custom units) Couldn't that part be used/applied until the left is done? I mean,

Re: [Linux-NTFS-Dev] Re: Re: ntfs resize and gtk frontends

2004-01-23 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 09:12:55PM +1100, Andrew Clausen wrote: [ parted in ocaml ] I'm afraid it wouldn't be :) I would like it, if that counts! :)) One thing with O'Caml: would it make it difficult to interface libocamlparted with distro installers? I haven't used

Re: [Linux-NTFS-Dev] Re: Re: ntfs resize and gtk frontends

2004-01-23 Thread Szakacsits Szabolcs
On Fri, 23 Jan 2004, Andrew Clausen wrote: This is one of my favourite stories! Talking about favourites, here is my favourite challange. Since earlier ntfsresize could resize only if there weren't data after the new size, many people made the compromise ok, let's shrink here now and more

Re: [Linux-NTFS-Dev] Re: Re: ntfs resize and gtk frontends

2004-01-23 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Szakacsits Szabolcs [EMAIL PROTECTED] [040123 12:49]: This is one of my favourite stories! Talking about favourites, here is my favourite challange. Since earlier ntfsresize could resize only if there weren't data after the new size, many people made the compromise ok, let's shrink here

Re: Re: ntfs resize and gtk frontends

2004-01-22 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 10:43:33PM +0100, Szakacsits Szabolcs wrote: On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Anton Altaparmakov wrote: On Wed, 2004-01-21 at 16:14, Sven Luther wrote: Well, first, i have no intention to do so myself too, but it would be nice if you could give us an estimation of the

Re: Re: ntfs resize and gtk frontends

2004-01-22 Thread Szakacsits Szabolcs
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004, Sven Luther wrote: On Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 10:43:33PM +0100, Szakacsits Szabolcs wrote: It isn't only about just moving the code to libntfs (I answered this some month ago on bug-parted) but Yep, but it is the necessary step to have do the libparted side of things.

Re: Re: ntfs resize and gtk frontends

2004-01-22 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 04:18:10PM +0100, Szakacsits Szabolcs wrote: On Thu, 22 Jan 2004, Sven Luther wrote: On Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 10:43:33PM +0100, Szakacsits Szabolcs wrote: It isn't only about just moving the code to libntfs (I answered this some month ago on bug-parted) but

Re: Re: ntfs resize and gtk frontends

2004-01-22 Thread Szakacsits Szabolcs
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004, Sven Luther wrote: I know nothing about ntfs, but i suppose it is somewhat silly to have to mount the partition while resizing it. It's called online resizing. XFS, JFS, reiserfs support online expansion. However NTFS resizing is offline and it's indeed unwise to have the

Re: Re: ntfs resize and gtk frontends

2004-01-22 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 08:16:32PM +0100, Szakacsits Szabolcs wrote: On Thu, 22 Jan 2004, Sven Luther wrote: I know nothing about ntfs, but i suppose it is somewhat silly to have to mount the partition while resizing it. It's called online resizing. XFS, JFS, reiserfs support online

Re: Re: ntfs resize and gtk frontends

2004-01-22 Thread Andrew Clausen
On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 04:18:10PM +0100, Szakacsits Szabolcs wrote: - one of the most disliked one described below, even a patch is provided to solve it (at least partly), http://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-parted/2003-05/msg00046.html Knowing where things are in sector

Re: Re: ntfs resize and gtk frontends

2004-01-22 Thread Andrew Clausen
On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 08:16:32PM +0100, Szakacsits Szabolcs wrote: This is a real problem, but again not one of libparted per see, more one linked to the fact that there is no open CVS or whatever repository. This has to be solved soon, or parted will be forked or something. E.g.

Re: Re: ntfs resize and gtk frontends

2004-01-22 Thread Szakacsits Szabolcs
On Fri, 23 Jan 2004, Andrew Clausen wrote: On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 04:18:10PM +0100, Szakacsits Szabolcs wrote: - one of the most disliked one described below, even a patch is provided to solve it (at least partly),

Re: Re: ntfs resize and gtk frontends

2004-01-21 Thread Anton Altaparmakov
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 02:27:12PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 09:24:06PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: NTFS write support at the kernel level is not very well-tested, but resizing partitions with the userspace tools is something that gets used fairly

Re: Re: ntfs resize and gtk frontends

2004-01-21 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 03:15:35PM +, Anton Altaparmakov wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 02:27:12PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 09:24:06PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: NTFS write support at the kernel level is not very well-tested, but resizing

Re: Re: ntfs resize and gtk frontends

2004-01-21 Thread Anton Altaparmakov
On Wed, 2004-01-21 at 15:23, Sven Luther wrote: On Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 03:15:35PM +, Anton Altaparmakov wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 02:27:12PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 09:24:06PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: NTFS write support at the kernel level

Re: Re: ntfs resize and gtk frontends

2004-01-21 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 03:25:28PM +, Anton Altaparmakov wrote: On Wed, 2004-01-21 at 15:23, Sven Luther wrote: On Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 03:15:35PM +, Anton Altaparmakov wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 02:27:12PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 09:24:06PM

Re: Re: ntfs resize and gtk frontends

2004-01-21 Thread Anton Altaparmakov
On Wed, 2004-01-21 at 16:14, Sven Luther wrote: On Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 03:25:28PM +, Anton Altaparmakov wrote: On Wed, 2004-01-21 at 15:23, Sven Luther wrote: On Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 03:15:35PM +, Anton Altaparmakov wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 02:27:12PM -0600, Steve

Re: Re: ntfs resize and gtk frontends

2004-01-21 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Anton Altaparmakov [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-01-21 16:25]: I am afraid I have no idea as I haven't really looked at the ntfsresize code. I am CC:-ing Szaka who wrote and maintains ntfsresize in the hope that he will comments. BTW, it would be really excellent to get this merged into

Re: Re: Re: ntfs resize and gtk frontends

2004-01-21 Thread Fabri
Flatcap are working on insert the ntfs tools (ntfsresize is a part of it) in the usable library libntfs but need help. You can find it on irc.freenode.net #ntfs channel or at [EMAIL PROTECTED] address. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble?

Re: Re: ntfs resize and gtk frontends

2004-01-21 Thread Szakacsits Szabolcs
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Anton Altaparmakov wrote: On Wed, 2004-01-21 at 16:14, Sven Luther wrote: Well, first, i have no intention to do so myself too, but it would be nice if you could give us an estimation of the work needed to move the resize code to libntfs ? It isn't only about just

Re: Re: ntfs resize and gtk frontends

2004-01-21 Thread Szakacsits Szabolcs
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Martin Michlmayr wrote: BTW, it would be really excellent to get this merged into libparted. (I understand this might be low or no priority for you at all, but many people would benefit from it.) I don't doubt. But the need for full relocation support is _MUCH_ higher.

Re: ntfs resize and gtk frontends

2004-01-20 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 05:52:53PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 10:02:14PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: But is not in any way related to the libntfs library ? Package: ntfstools Source: linux-ntfs Version: 1.8.0-2 Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.2.ds1-4), libntfs5

Re: ntfs resize and gtk frontends

2004-01-20 Thread Anton Zinoviev
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 10:02:14PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: Still, i wonder what the use of many outside library would mean to libparted and its use in debian-installer, where size matters. It is not necessary for libparted to depend strongly on libntfs but the same way as on libreiserfs.

ntfs resize and gtk frontends

2004-01-19 Thread Fabri
Any plan on support ntfs resize in the new debian installer? Any update or plan on gtk frontends to d-i and an integration with bootsplash (bootsplash packages are now on debian mentors repos)? Regards. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble?

Re: ntfs resize and gtk frontends

2004-01-19 Thread Thorsten Sauter
* Fabri [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-01-19 18:52]: | Any plan on support ntfs resize in the new debian installer? | | Any update or plan on gtk frontends to d-i and an integration with | bootsplash (bootsplash packages are now on debian mentors repos)? any plan to help us writing a gtk frontend? or

Re: ntfs resize and gtk frontends

2004-01-19 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 06:52:50PM +0100, Fabri wrote: Any plan on support ntfs resize in the new debian installer? There has been some discussion in the parted mailing list about linking libparted with libntfs and provide advanced ntfs functionality. That said, it seems that libntfs doesn't

Re: ntfs resize and gtk frontends

2004-01-19 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 01:29:01PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 07:22:13PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 06:52:50PM +0100, Fabri wrote: Any plan on support ntfs resize in the new debian installer? There has been some discussion in the parted

Re: ntfs resize and gtk frontends

2004-01-19 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 01:37:31PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 08:33:42PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 01:29:01PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 07:22:13PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 06:52:50PM

Re: ntfs resize and gtk frontends

2004-01-19 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 02:27:12PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 09:24:06PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: NTFS write support at the kernel level is not very well-tested, but resizing partitions with the userspace tools is something that gets used fairly

Re: ntfs resize and gtk frontends

2004-01-19 Thread Erik Andersen
On Mon Jan 19, 2004 at 09:24:06PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: Yes, it's the tool named ntfsresize that the original poster was referring to, and it's found in the ntfstools package. But is not in any way related to the libntfs library ? $ dlocate /usr/sbin/ntfsresize ntfstools:

Re: ntfs resize and gtk frontends

2004-01-19 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 09:24:06PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: NTFS write support at the kernel level is not very well-tested, but resizing partitions with the userspace tools is something that gets used fairly frequently. So, there is NTFS resizing user space tool ? Anything that is

Re: ntfs resize and gtk frontends

2004-01-19 Thread Finn-Arne Johansen
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 08:02:16PM +0100, Geert Stappers wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 07:41:34PM +0100, Thorsten Sauter wrote: * Fabri [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-01-19 18:52]: Any plan on support ntfs resize in the new debian installer? Any update or plan on gtk frontends to d-i and an

Re: ntfs resize and gtk frontends

2004-01-19 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 10:02:14PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: But is not in any way related to the libntfs library ? Package: ntfstools Source: linux-ntfs Version: 1.8.0-2 Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.2.ds1-4), libntfs5 (= 1.8.0) I haven't looked at the source to know which pieces are