Re: partman-zfs warning template wording

2011-02-08 Thread Robert Millan
2011/2/8 Christian PERRIER bubu...@debian.org: Hello Robert (CC'ed to get attention...of course no need to CC me back in answers), Hi Christian, If I understand well, partman-zfs is unstable on kfreebsd-i386 but fine on kfreebsd-amd64. However, would it be a problem to talk about 32 bits

Re: partman-zfs warning template wording

2011-02-08 Thread Robert Millan
2011/2/8 Christian PERRIER bubu...@debian.org: I corrected the last filesystem to file system but, more generally, I'm wondering about the general idea. [...] (also dropping one occurrence or *your* partitionsas partitions are not mine) Btw thanks for these corrections. -- Robert

Re: partman-zfs warning template wording

2011-02-08 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2011-02-08, Robert Millan r...@debian.org wrote: This is a common missconception. ZFS has stability and performance problems on Intel 386 due to limitations of this architecture, it's not because of word length. I386 carries on with 30 years of ill design decisions and legacy baggage.

Re: partman-zfs warning template wording

2011-02-08 Thread Robert Millan
Your tone looks unnecessarily accusational. I gave brief information because starting an in-depth debate about the actual technical reasons didn't seem useful. What matters to the template text in partman-zfs is that ZFS has trouble with i386, not with 32-bit arches in general. But if you

Re: partman-zfs warning template wording

2011-02-08 Thread Robert Millan
2011/2/8 Robert Millan r...@debian.org: I'm not aware of huge changes that cannot be emulated by PAE, too. If that works it could be considered, but I heard PAE is very inefficient.  This should be discussed in -bsd. I checked documentation in FreeBSD wiki and it seems PAE would solve the

Re: partman-zfs warning template wording

2011-02-08 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Robert Millan (r...@debian.org): Hi Christian, If I understand well, partman-zfs is unstable on kfreebsd-i386 but fine on kfreebsd-amd64. However, would it be a problem to talk about 32 bits systems and 64 bits systems instead of i386 and amd64? This is a common

Re: partman-zfs warning template wording

2011-02-08 Thread Robert Millan
2011/2/8 Christian PERRIER bubu...@debian.org: My main point is to avoid jargon. Here, we are talking about kfreebsd ports where only two flavours exist: -i386 and -amd64. Both run on the same family of processors and the main difference between them is that one is 32-bits and the other is

Re: partman-zfs warning template wording

2011-02-08 Thread Robert Millan
2011/2/8 Robert Millan r...@debian.org: I checked documentation in FreeBSD wiki and it seems PAE would solve the stability problem, but it may have an unbearable performance cost. I'll do some tests and then bring this up in -bsd. I've disabled the string for translation until this option

Re: partman-zfs warning template wording

2011-02-08 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Feb 08, 2011 at 09:14:34PM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: Actually, disregard this. I forgot that PAE is only available on modern CPUs, which most likely support AMD64 ISA anyway. PAE goes back to the P6 era as far as I remember, so lost of them don't have amd64 support, but do have PAE.

Re: partman-zfs warning template wording

2011-02-08 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Robert Millan (r...@debian.org): I propose something like this: Description: Go back to the menu and correct this problem? You have configured one or more partitions with the ZFS file system. Although ZFS is supported on 32-bit i386, using it without special tuning may lead to

partman-zfs warning template wording

2011-02-07 Thread Christian PERRIER
Hello Robert (CC'ed to get attention...of course no need to CC me back in answers), I'd like to comment on the reinstated partman-zfs template: _Description: Go back to the menu and correct this problem? You have configured one or more partitions with the ZFS file system. Although ZFS is