Making the graphical installer the default (was: speakup enabled d-i?)

2008-09-11 Thread Jérémy Bobbio
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 12:31:25PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: I would still argue for adding speakup only to the G-I images and would even suggest removing brltty from the regular images. That would make the G-I images the graphical+accessibility installer. We could combine that with making

Re: speakup enabled d-i?

2008-09-11 Thread Jérémy Bobbio
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 11:48:23AM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: Frans Pop, le Wed 10 Sep 2008 11:38:21 +0200, a écrit : I would also seriously suggest to limit speakup to x86 and possibly powerpc (if someone will test it!). IIRC somebody already tried speakup on powerpc? I can probably

Re: speakup enabled d-i?

2008-09-11 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 10 September 2008, Jérémy Bobbio wrote: On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 04:06:57PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: Index: build/boot/x86/f8.txt This would make this option appear in all images, even those where speakup is not available, wouldn't it? f8.txt should probably be amended in

Re: speakup enabled d-i?

2008-09-11 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 10 September 2008, Samuel Thibault wrote: Frans Pop, le Wed 10 Sep 2008 13:59:22 +0200, a écrit : So we could commit this for now? You should add amd64 as well. Ah, right. Committed with one correction: when you add a line to a help screen, you've got to remove another

Re: speakup enabled d-i?

2008-09-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Frans Pop, le Thu 11 Sep 2008 21:24:34 +0200, a écrit : I've done a quick test with the dummy speakup driver for i386/mini.iso and it seems to work fine. Ok, thanks! Samuel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: speakup enabled d-i?

2008-09-10 Thread Christian Perrier
Contributors from the debian-accessibility group may be able to complete my answer Original mail to -boot: Quoting Terry D. Cudney ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hello, I'm new to this list, so please bear with me. I have been using debian for several years now, with speakup (a

Re: speakup enabled d-i?

2008-09-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Christian Perrier, le Wed 10 Sep 2008 06:39:41 +0200, a écrit : I'm personnally not completely sure about the status of this work, so I prefer leaving others to answer. The script part is integrated, what is left is just to add the kernel modules to the initrd, the question was which

Re: speakup enabled d-i?

2008-09-10 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 10 September 2008, Samuel Thibault wrote: The script part is integrated, what is left is just to add the kernel modules to the initrd, the question was which archs and which targets? For instance, the patch below adds it to x86 cdrom, hd-media and netboot targets. I am opposed to

Re: speakup enabled d-i?

2008-09-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Frans Pop, le Wed 10 Sep 2008 11:38:21 +0200, a écrit : I would suggest to only add speakup to the graphical installer images. That would be better than nothing, as that includes the complete network installer (not the businesscard). I would also seriously suggest to limit speakup to x86 and

Re: speakup enabled d-i?

2008-09-10 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 10 September 2008, Frans Pop wrote: That's the mini.iso for i386. Somehow we have grown by 2MB, over 35%! We really should do an analysis of exactly where this increase comes from. The increase of the netboot images is actually fairly easy to explain. Uncompressed the initrd in

Re: speakup enabled d-i?

2008-09-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Frans Pop, le Wed 10 Sep 2008 11:38:21 +0200, a écrit : I would suggest to only add speakup to the graphical installer images. Those are big already and already have a higher memory requirement. An extra increase there is a lot less harmful than for the regular images. I would also

Re: speakup enabled d-i?

2008-09-10 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 10 September 2008, Samuel Thibault wrote: Frans Pop, le Wed 10 Sep 2008 11:38:21 +0200, a écrit : I would suggest to only add speakup to the graphical installer images. Those are big already and already have a higher memory requirement. An extra increase there is a lot less

Re: speakup enabled d-i?

2008-09-10 Thread Terry D. Cudney
Hello, Thanks for the discussion of my query! For me, x86 and especially, amd64 are of primary interest. I personally know other blind/visually impaired speakup users who would benefit from x86 and amd64 installers... only know of one person using ppc. Inclusion of

Re: speakup enabled d-i?

2008-09-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Frans Pop, le Wed 10 Sep 2008 13:59:22 +0200, a écrit : So we could commit this for now? You should add amd64 as well. Ah, right. Samuel Index: build/boot/x86/f8.txt === --- build/boot/x86/f8.txt (révision 55726) +++

Re: speakup enabled d-i?

2008-09-10 Thread Jérémy Bobbio
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 04:06:57PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: Index: build/boot/x86/f8.txt === --- build/boot/x86/f8.txt (révision 55726) +++ build/boot/x86/f8.txt (copie de travail) @@ -12,6 +12,7 @@ Force static

Re: speakup enabled d-i?

2008-09-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jérémy Bobbio, le Wed 10 Sep 2008 17:14:34 +0200, a écrit : This would make this option appear in all images, even those where speakup is not available, wouldn't it? f8.txt should probably be amended in f8.txt.withgtk… Right, here is an updated patch Samuel Index:

speakup enabled d-i?

2008-09-08 Thread Terry D. Cudney
Hello, I'm new to this list, so please bear with me. I have been using debian for several years now, with speakup (a text-only (cli) screen-review system for blind/visually-impaired users) The last system I installed using a CD netinst image from Shane ??. It installed