Re: sarge3 kernel build r3

2006-06-13 Thread dann frazier
On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 06:50:36PM -0600, dann frazier wrote: The exceptions are: * linux-kernel-di-powerpc appears to require a 2.4 build host - I've poked around looking for help here, but no volunteers yet. Still need help with this one... * linux-kernel-di-m68k-* - I've just

Re: sarge3 kernel build r3

2006-06-13 Thread dann frazier
On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 03:41:42PM -0600, dann frazier wrote: On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 06:50:36PM -0600, dann frazier wrote: The exceptions are: * linux-kernel-di-powerpc appears to require a 2.4 build host - I've poked around looking for help here, but no volunteers yet. Still need

Re: sarge3 kernel build r3

2006-06-12 Thread dann frazier
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 01:32:42PM -0600, dann frazier wrote: On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 09:23:45PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: The more arches are built by the same person, the easier coordination is. So your offer is very welcome. Note that you'll need to check out the kernel udeb package

Re: sarge3 kernel build r3

2006-06-12 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
dann frazier wrote: On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 01:32:42PM -0600, dann frazier wrote: On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 09:23:45PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: The more arches are built by the same person, the easier coordination is. So your offer is very welcome. Note that you'll need to check out

Re: sarge3 kernel build r3

2006-06-09 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Karl Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For people wanting to install Sarge on AMD64 I recommend using the mini.iso found here: http://amd64.debian.net/debian-installer/daily/netboot/ I did a sarge jfs on RAID with home on jfs/raid1/lvm with only minor problems with this iso. There should

Re: sarge3 kernel build r3

2006-06-09 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 09:33:54PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That said, currently, backports are not an easy solution because of udev, which cannot be taken as is without pulling in the whole gnome, so a

Re: sarge3 kernel build r3

2006-06-08 Thread Frans Pop
(Also replying to other mails about Sarge support in Etch installer) On Wednesday 07 June 2006 20:42, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Frans Pop [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I ment that when you select sarge in choose-mirror in expert mode you get the inofficial list and if you choose etch/etch+1/sid

Reboot in d-i (Was: Re: sarge3 kernel build r3)

2006-06-08 Thread Jens Seidel
On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 08:53:34AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: installations which has only really been tested for i386. The real downside of using the Etch installer for Sarge is that, although a current kernel will be used for the installation, it will still install 2.6.8 for the target

Re: Reboot in d-i (Was: Re: sarge3 kernel build r3)

2006-06-08 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 09:50:44AM +0200, Jens Seidel wrote: On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 08:53:34AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: installations which has only really been tested for i386. The real downside of using the Etch installer for Sarge is that, although a current kernel will be used for the

Re: sarge3 kernel build r3

2006-06-08 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Frans Pop [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (Also replying to other mails about Sarge support in Etch installer) On Wednesday 07 June 2006 20:42, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Frans Pop [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I ment that when you select sarge in choose-mirror in expert mode you get the inofficial

Re: sarge3 kernel build r3

2006-06-08 Thread dann frazier
On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 01:33:57PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Frans Pop [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What changes are those? Is Debian finaly going to use LABEL= or UUID= in the generated fstab? I hope not; /dev/disk/by-* names seem a lot less kludgy to me. -- dann frazier -- To

Re: sarge3 kernel build r3

2006-06-08 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 08 June 2006 13:33, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: - increasing differences between the Sarge 2.6.8 and current kernels; That is a reason for. Only if we _would_ include some backports repository that is known to have a current backported kernel and all other packages needed with

Re: sarge3 kernel build r3

2006-06-08 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 07:16:57PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: On Thursday 08 June 2006 13:33, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: - increasing differences between the Sarge 2.6.8 and current kernels; That is a reason for. Only if we _would_ include some backports repository that is known to have

Re: sarge3 kernel build r3

2006-06-08 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Frans Pop [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thursday 08 June 2006 13:33, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: - increasing differences between the Sarge 2.6.8 and current kernels; That is a reason for. Only if we _would_ include some backports repository that is known to have a current backported

Re: sarge3 kernel build r3

2006-06-08 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 08 June 2006 20:08, Sven Luther wrote: On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 07:16:57PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: Only if we _would_ include some backports repository that is known to have a current backported kernel and all other packages needed with that kernel, but without random backports

Re: sarge3 kernel build r3

2006-06-08 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That said, currently, backports are not an easy solution because of udev, which cannot be taken as is without pulling in the whole gnome, so a bit of work is needed. Friendly, Sven Luther What do you mean? You don't seriously mean udev depends on

Re: sarge3 kernel build r3

2006-06-08 Thread Karl Schmidt
For people wanting to install Sarge on AMD64 I recommend using the mini.iso found here: http://amd64.debian.net/debian-installer/daily/netboot/ I did a sarge jfs on RAID with home on jfs/raid1/lvm with only minor problems with this iso. There should be a mention of this iso on the main

Re: sarge3 kernel build r3

2006-06-08 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 09:33:54PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That said, currently, backports are not an easy solution because of udev, which cannot be taken as is without pulling in the whole gnome, so a bit of work is needed. Friendly,

Re: sarge3 kernel build r3

2006-06-08 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 09:33:51PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: On Thursday 08 June 2006 20:08, Sven Luther wrote: On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 07:16:57PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: Only if we _would_ include some backports repository that is known to have a current backported kernel and all other

Re: sarge3 kernel build r3

2006-06-07 Thread dann frazier
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 09:23:45PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: The more arches are built by the same person, the easier coordination is. So your offer is very welcome. Note that you'll need to check out the kernel udeb package sources from the *sarge branch* of the d-i SVN repo for the

Re: sarge3 kernel build r3

2006-06-07 Thread dann frazier
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 09:15:44PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: I seem to remember though that the security update was planned for the end of Debconf, so I was a bit surprised when reading my mail backlog this week that it is not out yet. That was the optimistic plan (I didn't mean to imply

Re: sarge3 kernel build r3

2006-06-07 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 07:41:05PM +0200, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: Martin Schulze wrote: It would be good if we would be able some day to release kernel updates in a more timely fashion and also not accumulate this many security updates in one update. However, due to the number of

Re: sarge3 kernel build r3

2006-06-07 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
dann frazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 09:23:45PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: The more arches are built by the same person, the easier coordination is. So your offer is very welcome. Note that you'll need to check out the kernel udeb package sources from the *sarge

Re: sarge3 kernel build r3

2006-06-07 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Frans Pop [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (Removed irrelevant CCs for this question) On Wednesday 07 June 2006 10:11, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: If possibly it would be nice to have different mirror lists for sarge and etch/sid in choose-mirror. This is not really a problem. choose-mirror

Re: sarge3 kernel build r3

2006-06-07 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 08:42:23PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Frans Pop [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (Removed irrelevant CCs for this question) On Wednesday 07 June 2006 10:11, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: If possibly it would be nice to have different mirror lists for sarge and

Re: sarge3 kernel build r3

2006-06-07 Thread Otavio Salvador
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I ment that when you select sarge in choose-mirror in expert mode you get the inofficial list and if you choose etch/etch+1/sid you get the official one. Might be too much work for a transient problem though. I thought that installing sarge with

Re: sarge3 kernel build r3

2006-06-07 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 08:42:23PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Frans Pop [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (Removed irrelevant CCs for this question) On Wednesday 07 June 2006 10:11, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: If possibly it would be nice to have

Re: sarge3 kernel build r3

2006-06-07 Thread dann frazier
On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 12:59:42AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: If using the testing images to install stable is not possible in the future then we should seriously consider releasing images with newer kernels in point releases or having D-I on backports.org. This is being considered

sarge3 kernel build r3

2006-06-06 Thread dann frazier
I saw some questions on irc about the sarge3 kernel build r3... zobel it's just, i actualy wanted to release sarge r3 with sarge2 kernels. now i get told sarge3-kernels are already prepared, which disapoints me a bit, as noone told the stable release team

Re: sarge3 kernel build r3

2006-06-06 Thread Martin Schulze
dann frazier wrote: I saw some questions on irc about the sarge3 kernel build r3... zobel it's just, i actualy wanted to release sarge r3 with sarge2 kernels. now i get told sarge3-kernels are already prepared, which disapoints me a bit, as noone told the stable release team

Re: sarge3 kernel build r3

2006-06-06 Thread dann frazier
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 06:56:33PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: However, if kernel udebs should be part of the security update, then we'll need proper source packages that build these udebs - or, if these already exist, a pointer which source package has been forgotton in the last kernel

Re: sarge3 kernel build r3

2006-06-06 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 06 June 2006 18:01, dann frazier wrote: I believed aba, joeyh fjp were all in on this decision, but apologies if it didn't get communicated back to everyone involved. That's right, aba agreed to this plan as representative of the stable release team. Also, I posted an update about

Re: sarge3 kernel build r3

2006-06-06 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 06 June 2006 19:22, dann frazier wrote: I've offered to perform these builds for all archs except mips, mipsel m68k (but I can help coordinate those as well - those arch maintainers have always been very responsive to my build requests). This offer is still open, just let me know

Re: sarge3 kernel build r3

2006-06-06 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 06 June 2006 21:32, dann frazier wrote: I don't think its very likely that amd64/sarge will be added to debian.org, I did not mean to imply that of course. but this is a good question for the amd64.debian.net maintainers. The main reason we need to know is that the d-i source

Re: sarge3 kernel build r3

2006-06-06 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
Martin Schulze wrote: It would be good if we would be able some day to release kernel updates in a more timely fashion and also not accumulate this many security updates in one update. However, due to the number of architectures and affected packages I'm not sure this goal can be met any