Bug#1036400: partman-jfs: JFS is on its way out, please remove from the installer

2023-06-30 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hello!

On Sat, 2023-05-20 at 15:07 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> The JFS filesystem is deprecated in the kernel: on life support since 2009
> and with talks of removal altogether.

Not sure where you got this information from, but JFS [1] unlike ReiserFS [2]
is not marked as deprecated in the kernel. There was a single mail by Christoph
Hellwig suggesting to deprecate JFS in the near future but so far nothing
has been decided yet.

Adrian

> [1] 
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/fs/jfs/Kconfig
> [2] 
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/fs/reiserfs/Kconfig

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Bug#1036400: partman-jfs: JFS is on its way out, please remove from the installer

2023-06-30 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 04:56:37PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
>On Sun, May 21, 2023 at 07:35:36AM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
>> Adam Borowski  (2023-05-20):
>> > The JFS filesystem is deprecated in the kernel: on life support since 2009
>> > and with talks of removal altogether.  Thus, we really shouldn't offer to
>> > format new setups with it.  There are people who kind-of remember JFS being
>> > the fastest back in the day, and it's irresponsible to set them for failed
>> > upgrades past Bookworm.
>> > 
>> > Thus: please remove JFS from the installer.
>> 
>> It doesn't seem reasonable to do that weeks away from the release, without
>> any kind of heads-up. That can be done during the Trixie release cycle,
>> e.g. in Alpha 1.
>
>Aye, sorry for having distracted you during the most busy time.  I filed the
>bug when I learned about plans of giving JFS the axe.
>
>> Feel free to ping this bug report a few weeks/months into the next release
>> cycle
>
>So... it might be a better time now.

Agreed, we'll pick this up shortly.

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Bug#1036400: partman-jfs: JFS is on its way out, please remove from the installer

2023-06-30 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sun, May 21, 2023 at 07:35:36AM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> Adam Borowski  (2023-05-20):
> > The JFS filesystem is deprecated in the kernel: on life support since 2009
> > and with talks of removal altogether.  Thus, we really shouldn't offer to
> > format new setups with it.  There are people who kind-of remember JFS being
> > the fastest back in the day, and it's irresponsible to set them for failed
> > upgrades past Bookworm.
> > 
> > Thus: please remove JFS from the installer.
> 
> It doesn't seem reasonable to do that weeks away from the release, without
> any kind of heads-up. That can be done during the Trixie release cycle,
> e.g. in Alpha 1.

Aye, sorry for having distracted you during the most busy time.  I filed the
bug when I learned about plans of giving JFS the axe.

> Feel free to ping this bug report a few weeks/months into the next release
> cycle

So... it might be a better time now.


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Bug#1036400: partman-jfs: JFS is on its way out, please remove from the installer

2023-05-20 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Hi,

Adam Borowski  (2023-05-20):
> The JFS filesystem is deprecated in the kernel: on life support since 2009
> and with talks of removal altogether.  Thus, we really shouldn't offer to
> format new setups with it.  There are people who kind-of remember JFS being
> the fastest back in the day, and it's irresponsible to set them for failed
> upgrades past Bookworm.
> 
> Thus: please remove JFS from the installer.

It doesn't seem reasonable to do that weeks away from the release, without
any kind of heads-up. That can be done during the Trixie release cycle,
e.g. in Alpha 1.

Feel free to ping this bug report a few weeks/months into the next release
cycle, so that we have a chance to catch our breath, and to deal with
incoming installation reports.


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Bug#1036400: partman-jfs: JFS is on its way out, please remove from the installer

2023-05-20 Thread Adam Borowski
Package: partman-jfs
Severity: important

Hi!
The JFS filesystem is deprecated in the kernel: on life support since 2009
and with talks of removal altogether.  Thus, we really shouldn't offer to
format new setups with it.  There are people who kind-of remember JFS being
the fastest back in the day, and it's irresponsible to set them for failed
upgrades past Bookworm.

Thus: please remove JFS from the installer.


Meow!