Re: reiserfsprogs udebs

2023-09-20 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Felix Zielcke  (2023-09-20):
> thanks for your replies.
> I just uploaded reiserfsprogs-3.6.27-7 which removes them.
> 
> Does this need an unblock from release team since it affects udebs?

Only ftpmaster removals as usual when dropping binaries.

Your package will still be on a list of packages producing udebs until
I remove it, and even then, it's only affected when udeb-producing
packages are frozen (usually a few hours or days when a release is
underway).


Cheers,
-- 
Cyril Brulebois (k...@debian.org)
D-I release manager -- Release team member -- Freelance Consultant


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Re: reiserfsprogs udebs

2023-09-20 Thread Felix Zielcke
Am Dienstag, dem 19.09.2023 um 14:55 +0100 schrieb Steve McIntyre:
> On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 12:37:41PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> > [...]
> > While it can do that as well (to some extent), the installer's
> > primary
> > focus isn't to rescue systems but to install new ones; there are
> > better
> > tools for that anyway.
> > 
> > Since the plan for mainline is to eventually drop support for
> > ReiserFS,
> > I don't think we should actively keep support for it “just in case
> > someone needs to rescue a system”. If some user really wants to use
> > d-i
> > for that, we have a very wide range of versions available.
> 
> Agreed, let's just kill it here.
> 

Hi,

thanks for your replies.
I just uploaded reiserfsprogs-3.6.27-7 which removes them.

Does this need an unblock from release team since it affects udebs?



Re: reiserfsprogs udebs

2023-09-19 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 12:37:41PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
>Felix Zielcke  (2023-09-19):
>> Am 18.09.2023 22:23, schrieb Pascal Hambourg:
>> > On 18/09/2023 at 19:20, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
>> > > 
>> > > I would think so, yes. If that's not too much of a hassle, maybe
>> > > wait a
>> > > few days in case someone can think of a clever case where keeping them
>> > > would make sense; but seeing it unsupported upstream, with the partman
>> > > part removed already, I can't see why that would be the case…
>> > 
>> > Rescue mode ?
>> 
>> But then it still would make sense, to at least remove the
>> mkreiserfsprogs-udeb
>> The reiserfsprogs-udeb which contains fsck maybe could be kept.
>
>While it can do that as well (to some extent), the installer's primary
>focus isn't to rescue systems but to install new ones; there are better
>tools for that anyway.
>
>Since the plan for mainline is to eventually drop support for ReiserFS,
>I don't think we should actively keep support for it “just in case
>someone needs to rescue a system”. If some user really wants to use d-i
>for that, we have a very wide range of versions available.

Agreed, let's just kill it here.

-- 
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"When C++ is your hammer, everything looks like a thumb." -- Steven M. Haflich



Re: reiserfsprogs udebs

2023-09-19 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Felix Zielcke  (2023-09-19):
> Am 18.09.2023 22:23, schrieb Pascal Hambourg:
> > On 18/09/2023 at 19:20, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> > > 
> > > I would think so, yes. If that's not too much of a hassle, maybe
> > > wait a
> > > few days in case someone can think of a clever case where keeping them
> > > would make sense; but seeing it unsupported upstream, with the partman
> > > part removed already, I can't see why that would be the case…
> > 
> > Rescue mode ?
> 
> But then it still would make sense, to at least remove the
> mkreiserfsprogs-udeb
> The reiserfsprogs-udeb which contains fsck maybe could be kept.

While it can do that as well (to some extent), the installer's primary
focus isn't to rescue systems but to install new ones; there are better
tools for that anyway.

Since the plan for mainline is to eventually drop support for ReiserFS,
I don't think we should actively keep support for it “just in case
someone needs to rescue a system”. If some user really wants to use d-i
for that, we have a very wide range of versions available.


Cheers,
-- 
Cyril Brulebois (k...@debian.org)
D-I release manager -- Release team member -- Freelance Consultant


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Re: reiserfsprogs udebs

2023-09-19 Thread Felix Zielcke

Am 18.09.2023 22:23, schrieb Pascal Hambourg:

On 18/09/2023 at 19:20, Cyril Brulebois wrote:


I would think so, yes. If that's not too much of a hassle, maybe wait 
a

few days in case someone can think of a clever case where keeping them
would make sense; but seeing it unsupported upstream, with the partman
part removed already, I can't see why that would be the case…


Rescue mode ?


But then it still would make sense, to at least remove the 
mkreiserfsprogs-udeb

The reiserfsprogs-udeb which contains fsck maybe could be kept.



Re: reiserfsprogs udebs

2023-09-18 Thread Pascal Hambourg

On 18/09/2023 at 19:20, Cyril Brulebois wrote:


I would think so, yes. If that's not too much of a hassle, maybe wait a
few days in case someone can think of a clever case where keeping them
would make sense; but seeing it unsupported upstream, with the partman
part removed already, I can't see why that would be the case…


Rescue mode ?



Re: reiserfsprogs udebs

2023-09-18 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Felix Zielcke  (2023-09-18):
> I just found out that partman-reiserfs has been removed in 2013
> already.  So I assume it's safe to upload a new version of
> reiserfsprogs without them?

I would think so, yes. If that's not too much of a hassle, maybe wait a
few days in case someone can think of a clever case where keeping them
would make sense; but seeing it unsupported upstream, with the partman
part removed already, I can't see why that would be the case…


Cheers,
-- 
Cyril Brulebois (k...@debian.org)
D-I release manager -- Release team member -- Freelance Consultant


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Re: reiserfsprogs udebs

2023-09-18 Thread Felix Zielcke
Am Montag, dem 18.09.2023 um 18:48 +0200 schrieb Cyril Brulebois:
> Hallo Felix,
> 
> Felix Zielcke  (2023-09-18):
> > reiserfsprogs still provide 2 udebs: reiserfsprogs-udeb and
> > mkreiserfs-udeb.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ReiserFS has been now deprecated in linux upstream and is scheduled
> > to
> > be removed in 2025 [1]
> > And there's now a patch and discussion[2] on going to have it
> > removed
> > fro m the defconfig profile.
> > 
> > Are they actually still used in debian-installer or can they be
> > removed? Nobody should be creating now a reiserfs on a fresh new
> > Debian
> > installation.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Felix
> > 
> > [1]
> > https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=eb103a51640e
> > [2]
> > https://lore.kernel.org/all/20230910232640.113938-1-pe...@n8pjl.ca/
> 
> Thanks for reaching out. They're probably good to go away.
> 
> 

Hi Cyril,

thanks for your fast reply.
I just found out that partman-reiserfs has been removed in 2013
already.
So I assume it's safe to upload a new version of reiserfsprogs without
them?

Cheers
Felix



Re: reiserfsprogs udebs

2023-09-18 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Hallo Felix,

Felix Zielcke  (2023-09-18):
> reiserfsprogs still provide 2 udebs: reiserfsprogs-udeb and
> mkreiserfs-udeb.
> 
> 
> 
> ReiserFS has been now deprecated in linux upstream and is scheduled to
> be removed in 2025 [1]
> And there's now a patch and discussion[2] on going to have it removed
> fro m the defconfig profile.
> 
> Are they actually still used in debian-installer or can they be
> removed? Nobody should be creating now a reiserfs on a fresh new Debian
> installation.
> 
> Regards,
> Felix
> 
> [1] 
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=eb103a51640e
> [2] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20230910232640.113938-1-pe...@n8pjl.ca/

Thanks for reaching out. They're probably good to go away.


Cheers,
-- 
Cyril Brulebois (k...@debian.org)
D-I release manager -- Release team member -- Freelance Consultant


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reiserfsprogs udebs

2023-09-18 Thread Felix Zielcke
Hi,

reiserfsprogs still provide 2 udebs: reiserfsprogs-udeb and
mkreiserfs-udeb.



ReiserFS has been now deprecated in linux upstream and is scheduled to
be removed in 2025 [1]
And there's now a patch and discussion[2] on going to have it removed
fro m the defconfig profile.

Are they actually still used in debian-installer or can they be
removed? Nobody should be creating now a reiserfs on a fresh new Debian
installation.

Regards,
Felix

[1] 
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=eb103a51640e
[2] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20230910232640.113938-1-pe...@n8pjl.ca/