Re: GNU within the name (Was: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s))

2003-12-19 Thread Jeremy C. Reed
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003, Scott James Remnant wrote: Debian NetBSD The Debian user land with the NetBSD kernel and core system running on an i386. Again this could be Debian NetBSD/NetBSD except I dislike repetition. I don't think that is ever suggested. None of the Debian

Re: GNU within the name (Was: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s))

2003-12-19 Thread Momchil Velikov
Joel == Joel Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Joel RMS / FSF / GNU ask for the GNU prefix (where they consider it Joel appropriate) Right. Joel *NetBSD* is asking for it to be 'KNetBSD' rather than just 'NetBSD', Joel because the latter, in their view (and theirs is the view one should Joel

Re: GNU within the name (Was: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s))

2003-12-18 Thread viro
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 10:41:46AM +0100, Mathieu Roy wrote: You are currently saying that the GNU in GNU/Linux is justified by the glibc and not by any other GNU software, because these GNU software are common on other unixes. Why? If you are right that others unixes uses widely GNU

Re: GNU within the name (Was: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s))

2003-12-18 Thread Momchil Velikov
Mathieu == Mathieu Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mathieu If we follow your theory, it means that if someday another Mathieu system use the glibc, we should remove the GNU from the Mathieu GNU/Linux name. FWIW, BeOS uses glibc. ~velco

Re: GNU within the name (Was: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s))

2003-12-18 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Julian Mehnle dijo [Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 12:56:15PM +0100]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If we ever get a replacement libc that would really work as replacement... on such system GNU claims would become much weaker. Not that there was a serious chance of that happening - drop-in replacement

Re: GNU within the name (Was: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s))

2003-12-18 Thread Joel Baker
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 12:06:56PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 12:56:15PM +0100, Julian Mehnle wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If we ever get a replacement libc that would really work as replacement... on such system GNU claims would become much weaker. Not

Re: GNU within the name (Was: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s))

2003-12-18 Thread viro
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 02:26:27PM +0200, Momchil Velikov wrote: Mathieu == Mathieu Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mathieu If we follow your theory, it means that if someday another Mathieu system use the glibc, we should remove the GNU from the Mathieu GNU/Linux name. rereads Arrgh... My

Re: GNU within the name (Was: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s))

2003-12-18 Thread Joel Baker
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 11:59:10PM +, Scott James Remnant wrote: [I am not subscribed to debian-bsd, please Cc: me if you feel your reply deserves my attention.] On Thu, 2003-12-18 at 15:51, Joel Baker wrote: GNU represents the Gnu system, running with a native (Hurd) kernel

Re: GNU within the name (Was: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s))

2003-12-18 Thread Miles Bader
Joel Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The impression (and, frankly, not an entirely clear one) I have gotton from RMS's various comments on the naming, especially in regards to NetBSD, boil down to the following (modulo probably screwing up the capitalization, which I can never remember the

Re: GNU within the name (Was: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s))

2003-12-18 Thread Scott James Remnant
[I am not subscribed to debian-bsd, please Cc: me if you feel your reply deserves my attention.] On Fri, 2003-12-19 at 01:55, Joel Baker wrote: *NetBSD* is asking for it to be 'KNetBSD' rather than just 'NetBSD', because the latter, in their view (and theirs is the view one should respect,