Bug#1065312: RM: deborphan -- ROM; missing too many dpkg features, thus broken and unreliable

2024-04-26 Thread Andres Salomon
On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 15:27:21 + Scott Kitterman wrote: On March 10, 2024 3:23:32 PM UTC, "Martin-Éric Racine" wrote: >On Sat, 2 Mar 2024 18:40:13 +0100 Chris Hofstaedtler wrote: >> * Christoph Biedl [240302 17:02]: >> > Chris Hofstaedtler wrote... >> > >> > > please remove deborphan.

Bug#1065312: RM: deborphan -- ROM; missing too many dpkg features, thus broken and unreliable

2024-04-18 Thread satanic . surfer . 666
One addition, it seems Synaptic is internally also using deborphan: https://github.com/mvo5/synaptic/blob/0.91.3/common/raptoptions.cc#L202-L230 and the removal of deborphan seems to break this integration as well.

Bug#1065312: RM: deborphan -- ROM; missing too many dpkg features, thus broken and unreliable

2024-04-17 Thread satanic . surfer . 666
Hello everyone, just adding the following from a user-perspective: I was quite surprised that a tool i'm using since two decades and on a nearly weekly base is getting suddenly removed from Debian. And when looking at the title of the relevant bug report of the removal to notice a "broken and

Bug#1065312: RM: deborphan -- ROM; missing too many dpkg features, thus broken and unreliable

2024-04-16 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2024-04-17 01:39:48 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2024-03-11 15:18:44 +0100, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote: > > Thus, a good approximation of the default deborphan functionality > > (no additional options passed) is: > > > > $ apt-mark auto '~i !~M > >

Bug#1065312: RM: deborphan -- ROM; missing too many dpkg features, thus broken and unreliable

2024-04-16 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2024-03-11 15:18:44 +0100, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote: > Thus, a good approximation of the default deborphan functionality > (no additional options passed) is: > > $ apt-mark auto '~i !~M (~slibs|~soldlibs|~slibdevel|~sintrospection|~sdebug)' > possibly followed by No, to mimic deborphan, you

Bug#1065312: RM: deborphan -- ROM; missing too many dpkg features, thus broken and unreliable

2024-03-17 Thread Martin-Éric Racine
On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 10:22:25 +0200 =?UTF-8?Q?Martin=2D=C3=89ric_Racine?= wrote: > On Mon, 11 Mar 2024 15:18:44 +0100 Chris Hofstaedtler wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 02, 2024 at 03:16:22PM +0100, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote: > > > Given the C codebase and lack of any patches so far I do not see that > > >

Bug#1065312: RM: deborphan -- ROM; missing too many dpkg features, thus broken and unreliable

2024-03-12 Thread Martin-Éric Racine
On Mon, 11 Mar 2024 15:18:44 +0100 Chris Hofstaedtler wrote: > On Sat, Mar 02, 2024 at 03:16:22PM +0100, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote: > > Given the C codebase and lack of any patches so far I do not see that > > deborphan will ever get these features, and we have other tools > > available that work,

Bug#1065312: Re: Bug#1065312: RM: deborphan -- ROM; missing too many dpkg features, thus broken and unreliable

2024-03-12 Thread Martin-Éric Racine
On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 15:27:21 + Scott Kitterman wrote: > > > On March 10, 2024 3:23:32 PM UTC, "Martin-Éric Racine" > wrote: > >On Sat, 2 Mar 2024 18:40:13 +0100 Chris Hofstaedtler wrote: > >> * Christoph Biedl [240302 17:02]: > >> > Chris Hofstaedtler wrote... > >> > > >> > > please

Bug#1065312: RM: deborphan -- ROM; missing too many dpkg features, thus broken and unreliable

2024-03-11 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
On Sat, Mar 02, 2024 at 03:16:22PM +0100, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote: > Given the C codebase and lack of any patches so far I do not see that > deborphan will ever get these features, and we have other tools > available that work, do not mess with dpkg internals and are actually > maintained. As

Bug#1065312: RM: deborphan -- ROM; missing too many dpkg features, thus broken and unreliable

2024-03-10 Thread Scott Kitterman
On March 10, 2024 3:23:32 PM UTC, "Martin-Éric Racine" wrote: >On Sat, 2 Mar 2024 18:40:13 +0100 Chris Hofstaedtler wrote: >> * Christoph Biedl [240302 17:02]: >> > Chris Hofstaedtler wrote... >> > >> > > please remove deborphan. It is stuck, featurewise, in a very old time >> > > and does

Bug#1065312: RM: deborphan -- ROM; missing too many dpkg features, thus broken and unreliable

2024-03-10 Thread Martin-Éric Racine
On Sat, 2 Mar 2024 18:40:13 +0100 Chris Hofstaedtler wrote: > * Christoph Biedl [240302 17:02]: > > Chris Hofstaedtler wrote... > > > > > please remove deborphan. It is stuck, featurewise, in a very old time > > > and does not support many currently available dpkg features properly > > >

Bug#1065312: RM: deborphan -- ROM; missing too many dpkg features, thus broken and unreliable

2024-03-03 Thread Scott Kitterman
Generally in the FTP Team we trust maintainer's judgement when it comes to deciding if a package should be removed rather than orphaned and left to rot. I looked and it's been about 5 years since anyone other than Chris has uploaded the package and he's the only human maintainer. It is both a

Bug#1065312: RM: deborphan -- ROM; missing too many dpkg features, thus broken and unreliable

2024-03-03 Thread Christoph Biedl
Chris Hofstaedtler wrote... > You are welcome to write a new tool or implement all the missing > parts in deborphan and deal with users thinking deborphan is a magic > tool that knows everything and its output can be used by > non-thinking humans. Various people in the past have suggested its >

Bug#1065312: RM: deborphan -- ROM; missing too many dpkg features, thus broken and unreliable

2024-03-02 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Christoph Biedl [240302 17:02]: > Chris Hofstaedtler wrote... > > > please remove deborphan. It is stuck, featurewise, in a very old time > > and does not support many currently available dpkg features properly > > (multi-arch, versioned provides, etc). > > FWIW, deborphan is part of my

Bug#1065312: RM: deborphan -- ROM; missing too many dpkg features, thus broken and unreliable

2024-03-02 Thread Christoph Biedl
Chris Hofstaedtler wrote... > please remove deborphan. It is stuck, featurewise, in a very old time > and does not support many currently available dpkg features properly > (multi-arch, versioned provides, etc). FWIW, deborphan is part of my regular workflow, and while you claim it has defects,

Bug#1065312: RM: deborphan -- ROM; missing too many dpkg features, thus broken and unreliable

2024-03-02 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
Package: ftp.debian.org Severity: normal User: ftp.debian@packages.debian.org Usertags: remove X-Debbugs-Cc: deborp...@packages.debian.org Control: affects -1 + src:deborphan Dear ftpmasters, please remove deborphan. It is stuck, featurewise, in a very old time and does not support many