Bug#302709: Try experimental ifupdown

2005-04-06 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Apr 06, Thomas Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have merged #302709 with #253936. Quotations from the latter: I was just reading it. Unless you are some really compelling reason to not do so I will modify net.agent to ignore ppp interfaces, because using ifupdown to automatically start pppd

Bug#302709: Try experimental ifupdown

2005-04-06 Thread Thomas Hood
On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 15:47 +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Apr 06, Thomas Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless you are some really compelling reason to not do so I will modify net.agent to ignore ppp interfaces, because using ifupdown to automatically start pppd at boot time is the recommended

Bug#302709: Try experimental ifupdown

2005-04-06 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Apr 06, Thomas Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If pppd's persist option is not used then the current state of affairs If persist is not used then starting pppd at boot time is not much useful, and this is the only sensible reason for starting it with ifupdown. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc

Bug#302709: Try experimental ifupdown

2005-04-06 Thread Thomas Hood
On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 17:05 +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: If persist is not used then starting pppd at boot time is not much useful, and this is the only sensible reason for starting it with ifupdown. I think you are right: the majority of people who control PPP interfaces with ifup/ifdown

Bug#302709: Try experimental ifupdown

2005-04-06 Thread Thomas Hood
On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 16:57 +0200, Joerg Dorchain wrote: Maybe ifup and ifdown can use the environment variables to see whether they are run from hotplug scripts or not and accordingly leave pppd alone if they are. It is easier to modify hotplug's net.agent script so that it avoids calling

Bug#302709: Try experimental ifupdown

2005-04-06 Thread Joerg Dorchain
On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 05:54:54PM +0200, Thomas Hood wrote: On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 16:57 +0200, Joerg Dorchain wrote: Maybe ifup and ifdown can use the environment variables to see whether they are run from hotplug scripts or not and accordingly leave pppd alone if they are. It is

Bug#302709: Try experimental ifupdown

2005-04-06 Thread Joerg Dorchain
On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 05:48:22PM +0200, Thomas Hood wrote: On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 17:05 +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: If persist is not used then starting pppd at boot time is not much useful, and this is the only sensible reason for starting it with ifupdown. I think you are right: the

Bug#302709: Try experimental ifupdown

2005-04-06 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Apr 06, Joerg Dorchain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had the impression that pon/poff were going to be deprecated in favour of using ifup/ifdown as with all other interfaces. Not really. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Bug#302709: Try experimental ifupdown

2005-04-06 Thread Thomas Hood
On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 19:13 +0200, Joerg Dorchain wrote: I had the impression that pon/poff were going to be deprecated in favour of using ifup/ifdown as with all other interfaces. It would have made sense to replace pon/poff with ifup/ifdown five years ago. But before the transition could be