Bug#308095: udev: *1394 devices are not present, a default override would be nice.

2005-05-08 Thread Marco d'Itri
On May 08, Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, why did ubuntu chose to fix it that way ? They obviously have a different opinion about the tradeoffs. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Bug#308095: udev: *1394 devices are not present, a default override would be nice.

2005-05-08 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, May 08, 2005 at 11:31:46AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: On May 08, Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, why did ubuntu chose to fix it that way ? They obviously have a different opinion about the tradeoffs. Yep, they obviously care about their users, which debian seems more and

Bug#308095: udev: *1394 devices are not present, a default override would be nice.

2005-05-07 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 10:57:25PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: On May 07, Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the meantime, it would be nice to have those devices added per default in links.conf, and the correct permissions set in permissions.rules. I think you did not notice the

Bug#308095: udev: *1394 devices are not present, a default override would be nice.

2005-05-07 Thread Marco d'Itri
On May 07, Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure i did read it, it is still a shame that firewire webcam support will not work out of the box with udev because of that. Adding a disclaimer saying you don't care and don't want to be bothered by this is no solution. And if you The point is

Bug#308095: udev: *1394 devices are not present, a default override would be nice.

2005-05-07 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 11:17:07PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: On May 07, Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure i did read it, it is still a shame that firewire webcam support will not work out of the box with udev because of that. Adding a disclaimer saying you don't care and

Bug#308095: udev: *1394 devices are not present, a default override would be nice.

2005-05-07 Thread Marco d'Itri
On May 07, Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: oh well, what are all thos other entries in links.conf for then ? They needed are by drivers which are not hardware-related and cannot be autoprobed or easily autoloaded. I don't think it is against the kernel. But seriouly, why not have the

Bug#308095: udev: *1394 devices are not present, a default override would be nice.

2005-05-07 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 11:51:06PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: No, but I encourage Debian users to switch to it. By making sure that debian is less functional than ubuntu ? No, by explaining that for many uses it is a more useful distribution than debian/stable. Yeah, exact. Debian's X

Bug#308095: udev: *1394 devices are not present, a default override would be nice.

2005-05-07 Thread Marco d'Itri
On May 07, Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Debian's udev sucks because it is not able to add the workaroud to make firewire cameras work out of the box. This is not an udev bug, and I explained my rationale for not adding a workaround there. You should blame the 1394 maintainers instead,

Bug#308095: udev: *1394 devices are not present, a default override would be nice.

2005-05-07 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, May 08, 2005 at 12:03:21AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: On May 07, Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Debian's udev sucks because it is not able to add the workaroud to make firewire cameras work out of the box. This is not an udev bug, and I explained my rationale for not adding a

Bug#308095: udev: *1394 devices are not present, a default override would be nice.

2005-05-07 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, May 08, 2005 at 12:03:21AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: On May 07, Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Debian's udev sucks because it is not able to add the workaroud to make firewire cameras work out of the box. This is not an udev bug, and I explained my rationale for not adding a

Bug#308095: udev: *1394 devices are not present, a default override would be nice.

2005-05-07 Thread Sven Luther
Package: udev Version: 0.056-2 Severity: important Hello, As said, the /dev/raw1394 and /dev/video1394/0 devices are not existent in a udev context. I understand this is because the ieee1394 driver doesn't yet export the correct sys/hotplug magic. In the meantime, it would be nice to have