Bug#452393: [PROPOSAL] clarify overstep between required and important priorities

2012-07-12 Thread Julien Cristau
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 15:31:52 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Could someone who has the time to put together a script for this check to see whether this is actually true? (Namely, that the only thing in required are essential packages and their dependencies.) As far as I can tell the

Bug#452393: [PROPOSAL] clarify overstep between required and important priorities

2012-07-12 Thread Russ Allbery
Julien Cristau jcris...@debian.org writes: As far as I can tell the following packages are Priority: required but not Essential: yes (in sid/amd64/main), or (pre-)depended on by an Essential package (possibly recursively): - debconf-i18n, liblocale-gettext-perl, libtext-charwidth-perl,

Bug#452393: [PROPOSAL] clarify overstep between required and important priorities

2012-07-12 Thread Russ Allbery
Jonathan Nieder jrnie...@gmail.com writes: diff --git i/policy.sgml w/policy.sgml index 52dbb26a..544308f8 100644 --- i/policy.sgml +++ w/policy.sgml @@ -757,16 +757,11 @@ taglist tagttrequired/tt/tag item - Packages which are necessary for the

Bug#452393: [PROPOSAL] clarify overstep between required and important priorities

2012-07-12 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Julien Cristau wrote: - debconf-i18n, liblocale-gettext-perl, libtext-charwidth-perl, libtext-iconv-perl, libtext-wrapi18n-perl: since debconf 1.5.39 -i18n is only a Recommends. Could probably be downgraded to important? I think so. [1] has some context. - mawk: one of the

Bug#452393: [PROPOSAL] clarify overstep between required and important priorities

2012-07-10 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sun, Jul 08, 2012 at 07:52:05PM -0500, Jonathan Nieder a écrit : In practice, my impression is that required usually just means pseudo-essential (that is, essential packages and their transitive dependencies). Is that impression correct? Would it be worth documenting? A part of me

Bug#452393: [PROPOSAL] clarify overstep between required and important priorities

2012-07-10 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Charles Plessy wrote: Given that the Priority field in the debian source control file is used only once, when the package is first uploaded to the Debian archive, deprecating either the required or important priority would not render packages buggy just for that fact. Are you referring to

Bug#452393: [PROPOSAL] clarify overstep between required and important priorities

2012-07-10 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 01:20:19PM -0500, Jonathan Nieder a écrit : Charles Plessy wrote: Given that the Priority field in the debian source control file is used only once, when the package is first uploaded to the Debian archive, deprecating either the required or important priority

Bug#452393: [PROPOSAL] clarify overstep between required and important priorities

2012-07-10 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Charles Plessy wrote: Le Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 01:20:19PM -0500, Jonathan Nieder a écrit : Charles Plessy wrote: deprecating either the required or important priority would not render packages buggy just for that fact. Are

Bug#452393: [PROPOSAL] clarify overstep between required and important priorities

2012-07-10 Thread Russ Allbery
Jonathan Nieder jrnie...@gmail.com writes: It still sounds like work, so let's abandon that part of the proposal. Maybe we can prepare for it with the following, though? @@ -757,16 +757,11 @@ taglist tagttrequired/tt/tag item - Packages which are

Bug#452393: [PROPOSAL] clarify overstep between required and important priorities

2012-07-08 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Hi Robert, In 2007, Robert Millan wrote: In the definition of priorities, required and important seem to collide with each other. In particular, the part of required that reads: Packages which are necessary for the proper functioning of the system with the part of important that reads:

Bug#452393: [PROPOSAL] clarify overstep between required and important priorities

2007-11-22 Thread Robert Millan
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.7.2.2 Severity: wishlist Tags: patch In the definition of priorities, required and important seem to collide with each other. In particular, the part of required that reads: Packages which are necessary for the proper functioning of the system with the part

Bug#452393: [PROPOSAL] clarify overstep between required and important priorities

2007-11-22 Thread Robert Millan
On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 07:41:10PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 04:00:28PM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: Unlike required, important may include packages following other conditions not related to this one (and in fact, most of them aren't), so my proposal is to clarify it