On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 10:18:38AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
I don't think this is horribly relevant to what we're discussing, namely
how to go about packaging software for inclusion in Debian. Generating
upstream-provided packages that don't meet Debian Policy and therefore
won't be
On Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 04:32:39PM +, Neil Williams wrote:
In general, you seem to rant about a lot of things that may make sense
on their own, but they do not seem to have _anything_ to do with a
package being Debian-native or not. More specifically, you try to imply
that a package being
On Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 04:32:39PM +, Neil Williams wrote:
On Wed, 2007-12-26 at 14:23 +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
On Sun, Dec 23, 2007 at 07:17:16PM +, Neil Williams wrote:
I'd just add:
* it isn't in the spirit of free software to make it hard for others to
use the code -
On Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 03:16:36PM +0100, Vincent Danjean wrote:
I can tell you that this is not a easy way to cleanly package these
softwares. I did not talk to upstream yet because I would like to present
them new clean packages. Nevertheless, for now, I need to recreate a
Gabor Gombas wrote:
You seem to make the mistake to think that the debian/ directory
provided by upstream is there to help the distro maintainer.
[false assumptions]
I remove the upstream debian/ directory because the program that
create the diff.gz (dpkg-deb ?) does not record *removal* of
On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 05:04:17PM +0100, Vincent Danjean wrote:
Gabor Gombas wrote:
You seem to make the mistake to think that the debian/ directory
provided by upstream is there to help the distro maintainer.
[false assumptions]
Huh? I, as a user, routinely use upstream-provided debian/
Gabor Gombas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Huh? I, as a user, routinely use upstream-provided debian/ directory to
create packages for some software (most frequently mplayer). So those
are not assumptions but facts.
And as a user, I can say that if e.g. the debian mplayer maintainer
considers
On Sun, Dec 23, 2007 at 07:17:16PM +, Neil Williams wrote:
Luk Claes wrote:
Neil Williams wrote:
i.e. native should be a last resort - used only when it is all but
impossible for the package to be used outside Debian or some distro
fundamentally based on Debian like Ubuntu.
I
Wouter Verhelst wrote:
On Sun, Dec 23, 2007 at 07:17:16PM +, Neil Williams wrote:
Luk Claes wrote:
Neil Williams wrote:
i.e. native should be a last resort - used only when it is all but
impossible for the package to be used outside Debian or some distro
fundamentally based on Debian
Wouter Verhelst wrote:
Anyone who wants to package your source for something else than Debian
is then free to completely and utterly ignore your debian/ directory...
I'm trying to package two softwares where upstream
1) puts its debian/ directory in their releases (X.Y.Z)
2) provides
On Sun, Dec 23, 2007 at 07:35:12PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
tags 457353 + wontfix
thanks
On Fri, Dec 21, 2007 at 07:20:57PM +, brian m. carlson wrote:
You're missing a .diff.gz, which means that this is a native package. This
package is in no way specific to Debian, which
On Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 03:16:36PM +0100, Vincent Danjean wrote:
Wouter Verhelst wrote:
Anyone who wants to package your source for something else than Debian
is then free to completely and utterly ignore your debian/ directory...
I'm trying to package two softwares where upstream
1)
On Wed, 2007-12-26 at 14:23 +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
On Sun, Dec 23, 2007 at 07:17:16PM +, Neil Williams wrote:
I'd just add:
* it isn't in the spirit of free software to make it hard for others to
use the code - making a package Debian-native when it could work on any
GNU/Linux
On Sun, Dec 23, 2007 at 08:16:07PM +0100, Leo costela Antunes wrote:
Sorry, but I disagree with this interpretation. For me a Debian native
package is a package which contains the official debian packaging stuff
in the upstream tarball. Since I'm also upstream for gdome2-xslt and the
On Sun, Dec 23, 2007 at 09:06:07PM +, brian m. carlson wrote:
[N.B. I am subscribed to -devel; please do not CC me if you are following
up there. ]
[ As you wish, but notice that I didn't have the chance of knowing that
upon my first Cc. I Cc-ed you as bug submitter. Dropping the Cc now.
On Sun, Dec 23, 2007 at 08:01:02PM +0100, Luk Claes wrote:
I thought this consensus was already a fact and that some maintainers
just disagree and nobody forced them to change yet...
Well, before forcing them to change we need a place where it is written
that the practice is front, don't we?
tags 457353 + wontfix
thanks
On Fri, Dec 21, 2007 at 07:20:57PM +, brian m. carlson wrote:
You're missing a .diff.gz, which means that this is a native package. This
package is in no way specific to Debian, which means that this shouldn't be
a Debian-native package.
Sorry, but I
Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
tags 457353 + wontfix
thanks
On Fri, Dec 21, 2007 at 07:20:57PM +, brian m. carlson wrote:
You're missing a .diff.gz, which means that this is a native package. This
package is in no way specific to Debian, which means that this shouldn't be
a Debian-native
Neil Williams wrote:
Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
tags 457353 + wontfix
thanks
On Fri, Dec 21, 2007 at 07:20:57PM +, brian m. carlson wrote:
You're missing a .diff.gz, which means that this is a native package. This
package is in no way specific to Debian, which means that this shouldn't
Luk Claes wrote:
Neil Williams wrote:
i.e. native should be a last resort - used only when it is all but
impossible for the package to be used outside Debian or some distro
fundamentally based on Debian like Ubuntu.
I thought this consensus was already a fact and that some maintainers
just
On Sun, Dec 23, 2007 at 07:35:12PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
Sorry, but I disagree with this interpretation. For me a Debian native
package is a package which contains the official debian packaging stuff
in the upstream tarball. Since I'm also upstream for gdome2-xslt and the
software
On Sun Dec 23 15:26, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
On Sun, Dec 23, 2007 at 07:35:12PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
Sorry, but I disagree with this interpretation. For me a Debian native
package is a package which contains the official debian packaging stuff
in the upstream tarball. Since
[N.B. I am subscribed to -devel; please do not CC me if you are
following up there. ]
On Sun, Dec 23, 2007 at 07:35:12PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
There are other examples of packages in the archive which are no way
Debian specific, but which are native as gdome2-xslt is; a fresh
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