Bug#467324: include gnash in desktop?

2008-02-26 Thread Robert Millan
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 04:41:07PM +0100, Alexander Sack wrote: > > So for the time being, its looks far better to put the work into > something that provides users with a superior user experience; for > instance, superior by choice (like what the plugin finder improvement > would do); grow the us

Bug#467564: Processed (with 1 errors): Re: Bug#467324: include gnash in desktop?

2008-02-26 Thread Miriam Ruiz
--- Eddy Petrișor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > I am not sure if gnash shouldn't conflict with the non-free flash plugin. That will probably make sense, as well as maybe conflicting with swfdec-mozilla ... or maybe using alternatives for switching? Miry _

Bug#467324: include gnash in desktop?

2008-02-26 Thread Robert Millan
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 05:17:42PM +0100, Alexander Sack wrote: > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 05:48:47PM +0200, Eddy Petrișor wrote: > > On 26/02/2008, Alexander Sack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Yes, but face the truth: unfortunately, neither debian nor linux in > > > total have enough market pow

Bug#467324: include gnash in desktop?

2008-02-26 Thread Robert Millan
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 04:41:07PM +0100, Alexander Sack wrote: > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 03:40:05PM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 02:28:08PM +0100, Alexander Sack wrote: > > > > > > The negative thing about installing gnash by default is that normal > > > users won't rea

Bug#467324: include gnash in desktop?

2008-02-26 Thread Alexander Sack
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 05:48:47PM +0200, Eddy Petrișor wrote: > On 26/02/2008, Alexander Sack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes, but face the truth: unfortunately, neither debian nor linux in > > total have enough market power (read: userbase) to make much of a > > difference yet. We are gettin

Bug#467324: include gnash in desktop?

2008-02-26 Thread Eddy Petrișor
On 26/02/2008, Alexander Sack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, but face the truth: unfortunately, neither debian nor linux in > total have enough market power (read: userbase) to make much of a > difference yet. We are getting closer to that point, but that doesn't > mean that its wise to start

Bug#467324: include gnash in desktop?

2008-02-26 Thread Alexander Sack
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 03:40:05PM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 02:28:08PM +0100, Alexander Sack wrote: > > > > The negative thing about installing gnash by default is that normal > > users won't really notice what they are running and might perceive > > debian in general

Bug#467564: Processed (with 1 errors): Re: Bug#467324: include gnash in desktop?

2008-02-26 Thread Eddy Petrișor
retitle 467564 gnash: debris from older versions make current ones break # there seems to be a functional workaround, even if complex severity 467564 normal thanks > > retitile -1 gnash: debris from older versions make current ones break > Unknown command or malformed arguments to command. I fi

Bug#467324: include gnash in desktop?

2008-02-26 Thread Robert Millan
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 02:28:08PM +0100, Alexander Sack wrote: > > The negative thing about installing gnash by default is that normal > users won't really notice what they are running and might perceive > debian in general as "being-broken" if they visit a site that has > not-support flash conte

Bug#467324: include gnash in desktop?

2008-02-26 Thread Alexander Sack
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 01:46:13PM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 09:50:37AM +0100, Miriam Ruiz wrote: > > > > > Gnash maintainers: Do you think gnash overall stability is currently in a > > > good > > > state for lenny? If not, how viable is it to make it rock-solid by tha

Bug#467324: include gnash in desktop?

2008-02-26 Thread Robert Millan
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 02:00:33PM +0100, Miriam Ruiz wrote: > > For the moment I'd prefer to keep it for some time in testing and see how it > works for everyone before adding it to the desktop task, even though it works > quite well now for me and for other people I've asked to try it, it needs

Bug#467324: include gnash in desktop?

2008-02-26 Thread Miriam Ruiz
--- Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 09:50:37AM +0100, Miriam Ruiz wrote: > > > > > Gnash maintainers: Do you think gnash overall stability is currently in > a > > > good > > > state for lenny? If not, how viable is it to make it rock-solid by that > > > tim

Bug#467324: include gnash in desktop?

2008-02-26 Thread Robert Millan
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 02:06:34PM +0200, Eddy Petrișor wrote: > >This is no excuse for not contemplating stability, but in my experience > >with > >first-time users, they get the worst impression from youtube not working > >(and > >the response from the browser being utterly confusing) than with

Bug#467324: include gnash in desktop?

2008-02-26 Thread Robert Millan
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 11:29:26AM +0200, Eddy Petrișor wrote: > > Note that usually people think of gnash in terms of the „flash plugin > for firefox”, and since the gnash package doesn't actually offer that > functionality, in tasksel we should talk about "mozilla-plugin-gnash" or > "konquero

Bug#467324: include gnash in desktop?

2008-02-26 Thread Robert Millan
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 09:50:37AM +0100, Miriam Ruiz wrote: > > > Gnash maintainers: Do you think gnash overall stability is currently in a > > good > > state for lenny? If not, how viable is it to make it rock-solid by that > > time? > > I think it is stable enough to be included in Lenny, but

Bug#467324: include gnash in desktop?

2008-02-26 Thread Eddy Petrișor
clone 467324 -1 reassign -1 gnash retitile -1 gnash: debris from older versions make current ones break # don't know if this should be serious, but since gnash was never part # of a release, I guess important is ok severity -1 important thanks Robert Millan wrote: On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 01:40:0

Bug#467324: include gnash in desktop?

2008-02-26 Thread Eddy Petrișor
Miriam Ruiz wrote: Gnash maintainers: Do you think gnash overall stability is currently in a good state for lenny? If not, how viable is it to make it rock-solid by that time? I have removed everything under ~/.local/share/gnash, and now I started looking for anything containing 'gnash' in .

Bug#467324: include gnash in desktop?

2008-02-26 Thread Robert Millan
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 01:40:07AM +0200, Eddy Petrișor wrote: > > > >Please can you be more specific? > > > > - versions you have tried > > All official versions (there has been a regression at some point, but > unfortunately I can't say when it happened). > > I have tried the version from uns

Bug#467324: include gnash in desktop?

2008-02-25 Thread Eddy Petrișor
Robert Millan wrote: On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 12:10:56AM +0200, Eddy Petrișor wrote: I use gnash regularly (in combination with adblock) and I think it's reasonably mature nowadays. At least, it works for the most common flash sites, like youtube. I disagree, lately, none of the official Debian

Bug#467324: include gnash in desktop?

2008-02-25 Thread Robert Millan
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 12:10:56AM +0200, Eddy Petrișor wrote: > >I use gnash regularly (in combination with adblock) and I think it's > >reasonably > >mature nowadays. At least, it works for the most common flash sites, like > >youtube. > > I disagree, lately, none of the official Debian packag

Bug#467324: include gnash in desktop?

2008-02-24 Thread Eddy Petrișor
Robert Millan wrote: Package: tasksel Version: 2.71 Severity: wishlist Tags: patch I'd like to propose gnash browser plugins being added to the desktop task. A significant amount of websites nowadays use flash; significant enough that most of our first-time users are troubled with the difficul

Bug#467324: include gnash in desktop?

2008-02-24 Thread Robert Millan
Package: tasksel Version: 2.71 Severity: wishlist Tags: patch I'd like to propose gnash browser plugins being added to the desktop task. A significant amount of websites nowadays use flash; significant enough that most of our first-time users are troubled with the difficulty of finding and insta