Bug#499897: Pre-approval for apt 0.7.21: Valid-Until feature and proxy changes

2009-01-26 Thread Luk Claes
Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: Hello Thijs, hello FTP masters, please see problem 2) below... Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: However, it seems there is no better solution, or is there? Why are we trying to invent something new here, with Valid-Until? The problem is that we want to ensure that the

Bug#499897: Pre-approval for apt 0.7.21: Valid-Until feature and proxy changes

2009-01-19 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Hello Thijs, hello FTP masters, please see problem 2) below... Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: However, it seems there is no better solution, or is there? Why are we trying to invent something new here, with Valid-Until? The problem is that we want to ensure that the Release file of the security

Bug#499897: Pre-approval for apt 0.7.21: 'Valid-Until' feature and proxy changes

2009-01-19 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
I've removed some CC's. On Mon, January 19, 2009 12:47, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: 1) insert apt-transport-https and all its deps into base system (libcurl, kerberos etc.) I'm not sure if we need kerberos for this to work. Just like apt uses a small version of gnupg to verify signatures, we

Bug#499897: Pre-approval for apt 0.7.21: 'Valid-Until' feature and proxy changes

2009-01-19 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: I've removed some CC's. On Mon, January 19, 2009 12:47, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: 1) insert apt-transport-https and all its deps into base system (libcurl, kerberos etc.) I'm not sure if we need kerberos for this to work. Just like apt uses a small version of

Bug#499897: Pre-approval for apt 0.7.21: 'Valid-Until' feature and proxy changes

2009-01-19 Thread Otavio Salvador
Eugene V. Lyubimkin jackyf.de...@gmail.com writes: Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: I've removed some CC's. On Mon, January 19, 2009 12:47, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: 1) insert apt-transport-https and all its deps into base system (libcurl, kerberos etc.) I'm not sure if we need kerberos for

Bug#499897: Pre-approval for apt 0.7.21: 'Valid-Until' feature and proxy changes

2009-01-19 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Otavio Salvador wrote: Eugene V. Lyubimkin jackyf.de...@gmail.com writes: Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: I've removed some CC's. On Mon, January 19, 2009 12:47, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: 1) insert apt-transport-https and all its deps into base system (libcurl, kerberos etc.) I'm not sure if we

Bug#499897: Pre-approval for apt 0.7.21: 'Valid-Until' feature and proxy changes

2009-01-19 Thread Otavio Salvador
Eugene V. Lyubimkin jackyf.de...@gmail.com writes: Otavio Salvador wrote: Eugene V. Lyubimkin jackyf.de...@gmail.com writes: Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: I've removed some CC's. On Mon, January 19, 2009 12:47, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: 1) insert apt-transport-https and all its deps into base

Bug#499897: Pre-approval for apt 0.7.21: Valid-Until feature and proxy changes

2009-01-17 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Thursday 15 January 2009 22:37, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: Florian Weimer wrote: And if Valid-Until is only checked against the real-time clock, the attacker can still feed bad data over NTP, so it's not even a complete defense. 8-( As there are questions about the implementation, and

Bug#499897: Pre-approval for apt 0.7.21: Valid-Until feature and proxy changes

2009-01-15 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 06:33:53PM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote: * Eugene V. Lyubimkin [Mon, 05 Jan 2009 23:42:46 +0200]: Hello release folks! Hello, Eugene. (SecTeam please see Change #1 below.) APT team has prepared two important changes in apt, please give us a decision(s) whether

Bug#499897: Pre-approval for apt 0.7.21: Valid-Until feature and proxy changes

2009-01-15 Thread Florian Weimer
* Moritz Muehlenhoff: And there is also the option of including it in the first point release, after a month or two of testing in unstable. Since the replay attack isn't exactly grave, it could just as well be added into 5.0.1 oder 5.0.2 once it has gotten some testing. And if Valid-Until

Bug#499897: Pre-approval for apt 0.7.21: Valid-Until feature and proxy changes

2009-01-15 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Hello Florian, Florian Weimer wrote: And if Valid-Until is only checked against the real-time clock, the attacker can still feed bad data over NTP, so it's not even a complete defense. 8-( However, it seems there is no better solution, or is there? -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, JID:

Bug#499897: Pre-approval for apt 0.7.21: Valid-Until feature and proxy changes

2009-01-15 Thread Florian Weimer
* Eugene V. Lyubimkin: Florian Weimer wrote: And if Valid-Until is only checked against the real-time clock, the attacker can still feed bad data over NTP, so it's not even a complete defense. 8-( However, it seems there is no better solution, or is there? A counter in the style of a

Bug#499897: Pre-approval for apt 0.7.21: Valid-Until feature and proxy changes

2009-01-15 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
(dropping debian-release@ from CC) Florian Weimer wrote: * Eugene V. Lyubimkin: Florian Weimer wrote: And if Valid-Until is only checked against the real-time clock, the attacker can still feed bad data over NTP, so it's not even a complete defense. 8-( However, it seems there is no

Bug#499897: Pre-approval for apt 0.7.21: Valid-Until feature and proxy changes

2009-01-11 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Eugene V. Lyubimkin [Mon, 05 Jan 2009 23:42:46 +0200]: Hello release folks! Hello, Eugene. (SecTeam please see Change #1 below.) APT team has prepared two important changes in apt, please give us a decision(s) whether are they appropriate for Lenny or not. We realize that apt has seen

Bug#499897: Pre-approval for apt 0.7.21: Valid-Until feature and proxy changes

2009-01-11 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Adeodato Simó wrote: * Eugene V. Lyubimkin [Mon, 05 Jan 2009 23:42:46 +0200]: Hello Adeodato, - Change #1 aka Valid-Until for preventing replay attacks - [change details snipped]