Bug#560786: gdb: Please make the python dependency optional

2010-01-11 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 07:06:05PM +1030, Ron wrote: You've already said you don't have the space for GDB+Python. So file a wishlist bug to split gdbserver out to its own package, and I'll do that for you happily. I haven't seen anyone object to that idea yet, so we seem to have a rough

Bug#560786: gdb: Please make the python dependency optional

2010-01-11 Thread Miles Bader
Python does seem a very poor choice for this kind of application, given the traditional bloat of a python installation, but I suppose they've made their decision... -Miles -- ... The revolution will be no re-run brothers; The revolution will be live. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Bug#560786: gdb: Please make the python dependency optional

2010-01-10 Thread Ron
Ok, let's see ... On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 06:18:18PM -0500, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 03:30:20AM +1030, Ron wrote: I do appreciate, and share, your concern for not bloating the archive needlessly, but my concern is balancing that against the needs of small Debian

Bug#560786: gdb: Please make the python dependency optional

2009-12-21 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
Picking some arbitrary messages in this thread to respond to. On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 03:30:20AM +1030, Ron wrote: I do appreciate, and share, your concern for not bloating the archive needlessly, but my concern is balancing that against the needs of small Debian systems, where the extra deps

Bug#560786: gdb: Please make the python dependency optional

2009-12-20 Thread Ron
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 02:26:53AM +, Ben Hutchings wrote: On Sun, 2009-12-20 at 11:17 +1030, Ron wrote: [...] I don't understand the pushback I'm getting on this. The bloat that was already added _far_ outweighs the little extra it needs to fix it, and that's before we save on

Bug#560786: gdb: Please make the python dependency optional

2009-12-20 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include hallo.h * Ben Hutchings [Sun, Dec 20 2009, 02:26:53AM]: On Sun, 2009-12-20 at 11:17 +1030, Ron wrote: [...] I don't understand the pushback I'm getting on this. The bloat that was already added _far_ outweighs the little extra it needs to fix it, and that's before we save on

Bug#560786: gdb: Please make the python dependency optional

2009-12-19 Thread Ron
Hi Daniel, On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 09:34:53PM -0500, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: tags 560786 + wontfix thanks On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 08:22:12PM +1030, Ron wrote: Not all machines that it's useful to be able to run gdb on also need or want python installed. Can we please make this extra

Bug#560786: gdb: Please make the python dependency optional

2009-12-19 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2009-12-20 at 03:30 +1030, Ron wrote: Hi Daniel, On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 09:34:53PM -0500, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: tags 560786 + wontfix thanks On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 08:22:12PM +1030, Ron wrote: Not all machines that it's useful to be able to run gdb on also need or

Bug#560786: gdb: Please make the python dependency optional

2009-12-19 Thread Ron
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 08:12:44PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote: Why would you install gdb on a (non-development) system, rather than a gdb stub? Maybe I'm missing something cool and obvious here, but in the particular case this came to my attention: simplicity? The device is amply endowed

Bug#560786: gdb: Please make the python dependency optional

2009-12-19 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2009-12-20 at 08:25 +1030, Ron wrote: On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 08:12:44PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote: Why would you install gdb on a (non-development) system, rather than a gdb stub? Maybe I'm missing something cool and obvious here, but in the particular case this came to my

Bug#560786: gdb: Please make the python dependency optional

2009-12-19 Thread Ron
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 11:15:14PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote: On Sun, 2009-12-20 at 08:25 +1030, Ron wrote: On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 08:12:44PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote: Why would you install gdb on a (non-development) system, rather than a gdb stub? Maybe I'm missing something

Bug#560786: gdb: Please make the python dependency optional

2009-12-19 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2009-12-20 at 11:17 +1030, Ron wrote: [...] I don't understand the pushback I'm getting on this. The bloat that was already added _far_ outweighs the little extra it needs to fix it, and that's before we save on pruning away libgdb. I don't think I'd be going out on a limb to suggest

Bug#560786: gdb: Please make the python dependency optional

2009-12-13 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
tags 560786 + wontfix thanks On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 08:22:12PM +1030, Ron wrote: Not all machines that it's useful to be able to run gdb on also need or want python installed. Can we please make this extra dependency optional? No, we can't. You build GDB either with or without linking to

Bug#560786: gdb: Please make the python dependency optional

2009-12-12 Thread Ron
Package: gdb Version: 7.0-1 Severity: normal Hi, Not all machines that it's useful to be able to run gdb on also need or want python installed. Can we please make this extra dependency optional? Cheers, Ron -- System Information: Debian Release: squeeze/sid APT prefers unstable APT