On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:16:29 +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
> ... how this policy is compatible with the observed fact of
> a dearth of such all-copyright-notices duplication in the actual Debian
> packages.
I seems you are looking at other packages than me; I know quite a few
which follow the ftp-mast
Hi,
On Sun, Feb 07, 2010 at 11:23:35PM -0600, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
> Steve M. Robbins wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 07, 2010 at 06:59:06PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
>
> >> The motivation is to put an end to the contrafactual interpretation of this
> >> clause in Policy that Ben Finney continues to
Steve M. Robbins wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 07, 2010 at 06:59:06PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
>> The motivation is to put an end to the contrafactual interpretation of this
>> clause in Policy that Ben Finney continues to advance in discussions on
>> Debian mailing lists.
>
> Really? The change is ai
On Sun, Feb 07, 2010 at 06:59:06PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 07, 2010 at 11:49:03AM -0600, Steve M. Robbins wrote:
> > Agreed. The license for using and distributing the files in the
> > BINARY package is useful and necessary. But I can't imagine that many
> > binary package user
On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 10:43:54AM +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
> That it's not called a policy doesn't stop it from being one. See
> http://ftp-master.debian.org/REJECT-FAQ.html>, which in regard to
> this current discussion links to a 2006 message from an FTP Master:
It links to a 2006 message from
On Sun, Feb 07, 2010 at 11:49:03AM -0600, Steve M. Robbins wrote:
> Agreed. The license for using and distributing the files in the
> BINARY package is useful and necessary. But I can't imagine that many
> binary package users would need the hundreds of copyright statements
> from multi-author wo
On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 09:25:48AM -0600, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
> Instead, I have always read that passage to mean
> Every package must be accompanied by a verbatim copy of
> its copyright information and distribution license in
> the file /usr/share/doc//copyright.
I agree th
Hi,
Just wanted to clarify a few points from your message, out of order.
No patch is attached to this message. I will probably download the
policy sources and write one soon, if no one beats me to it.
First a point you made towards the end:
Steve M. Robbins wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 11:5
"Steve M. Robbins" writes:
> On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 09:16:29AM +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
>
> > There is an additional factor here. Reportedly, the ftpmasters have
> > a policy that all Debian packages must have all copyright notices
> > for the package duplicated in the package's ???copyright???
On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 09:16:29AM +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
> There is an additional factor here. Reportedly, the ftpmasters have a
> policy that all Debian packages must have all copyright notices for the
> package duplicated in the package's ???copyright??? file.
Agreed, the ftpmasters have a l
Ben Finney writes:
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2010/01/msg00443.html>
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2010/01/msg00443.html>
The first link should have been
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2009/08/msg00963.html>.
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\ “If you don't know what your program is suppos
"Steve M. Robbins" writes:
> I'd have to agree with Jonathan Nieder and Charles Plessy that the
> proposed change does not reflect current consensus.
That's my impression too.
> On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 11:50:25AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> > Jonathan Nieder writes:
> > > Instead, I have alwa
Hi,
I'd have to agree with Jonathan Nieder and Charles Plessy that the
proposed change does not reflect current consensus.
On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 11:50:25AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Jonathan Nieder writes:
> >> --- a/policy.sgml
> >> +++ b/policy.sgml
> >> @@ -570,7 +570,7 @@
> >>
> >>
Jonathan Nieder writes:
> Steve Langasek wrote:
>> --- a/policy.sgml
>> +++ b/policy.sgml
>> @@ -570,7 +570,7 @@
>>
>>
>>Every package must be accompanied by a verbatim copy of
>> - its copyright and distribution license in the file
>> + its copyright notices and distrib
Hi,
Steve Langasek wrote:
> --- a/policy.sgml
> +++ b/policy.sgml
> @@ -570,7 +570,7 @@
>
>
> Every package must be accompanied by a verbatim copy of
> - its copyright and distribution license in the file
> + its copyright notices and distribution license in the file
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 22:25:56 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
> Package: debian-policy
> Version: 3.8.3.0
> Tags: patch
> User: debian-pol...@packages.debian.org
> Usertags: informative
>
> Clarify what is meant by "verbatim copy of its copyright and distribution
> license" to be explicit about w
Ben Finney writes:
> Steve Langasek writes:
>> If someone wants to argue that Policy should *not* require reproducing
>> the copyright notices when this is not required by the license, let
>> them argue that Policy should be changed rather than wrongly claiming
>> it's not a Policy requirement.
Steve Langasek writes:
> Clarify what is meant by "verbatim copy of its copyright and
> distribution license" to be explicit about what Debian has always
> required for this file, to put to rest the silly arguments that this
> should be parsed as "(copyright and distribution) license". If someon
Package: debian-policy
Version: 3.8.3.0
Tags: patch
User: debian-pol...@packages.debian.org
Usertags: informative
Clarify what is meant by "verbatim copy of its copyright and distribution
license" to be explicit about what Debian has always required for this file,
to put to rest the silly argument
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