On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 12:51:36AM +0100, Samuel Thibault
wrote:
> > If you wanted to show that debian clearly doesn't care much, you
> > succeeded.
>
> Ok, then propose to change that point of the Debian policy, I fully
> agree that it should be a strong requirement.
And why of all people shou
Marc Lehmann, le Thu 10 Feb 2011 00:45:04 +0100, a écrit :
> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 12:24:56AM +0100, Samuel Thibault
> wrote:
> > > > > (*) debian has a long tradition of non-communication with upstream and
> > > > > deliberate bug-introducing patches,
> > > >
> > > > Please don't FUD.
> >
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 12:24:56AM +0100, Samuel Thibault
wrote:
> > > > (*) debian has a long tradition of non-communication with upstream and
> > > > deliberate bug-introducing patches,
> > >
> > > Please don't FUD.
> >
> > And how would you know?
>
> Because that's written in the Debian
Marc Lehmann, le Wed 09 Feb 2011 21:56:53 +0100, a écrit :
> On Wed, Feb 09, 2011 at 04:48:36PM +0100, Samuel Thibault
> wrote:
> > Marc Lehmann, le Thu 09 Dec 2010 12:30:03 +0100, a écrit :
> > > (*) debian has a long tradition of non-communication with upstream and
> > > deliberate bug-intr
On Wed, 9 Feb 2011 16:48:36 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Marc Lehmann, le Thu 09 Dec 2010 12:30:03 +0100, a écrit :
> > (*) debian has a long tradition of non-communication with upstream and
> > deliberate bug-introducing patches,
>
> Please don't FUD. Debian has a long tradition of reques
Marc Lehmann, le Thu 09 Dec 2010 12:30:03 +0100, a écrit :
> (*) debian has a long tradition of non-communication with upstream and
> deliberate bug-introducing patches,
Please don't FUD. Debian has a long tradition of requesting package
maintainers to have good relation with upstream and chec
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 07:20:41PM -0500, micah anderson
wrote:
> > Thats fine with me - since you are here, I assume nobody went agro and
> > started yelling yet?
>
> Nope. You did actaully go agro and started yelling, its hard to read
> your message and think otherwise. The only reason I'm her
On Sat, 11 Dec 2010 15:59:49 +0100, Marc Lehmann wrote:
> > I understand frustration, believe me, and I dont mean to suggest you are
> > wrong, but as an honest, nice person I would like to tell you that I
> > tune the fuck out when people go agro and start yelling.
>
> Thats fine with me - sinc
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 06:47:10PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit
wrote:
> This is the root issue of why it isn't installed by default in Debian
Uhm, could you at least superficially try to check your bullshit before
you publish it? The terminfo description didn't even exist before release
9.09, so your
On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 18:34:07 +0100
Emanuele Giaquinta wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 04:23:32PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> > On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 15:59:38 +0100
> > Marc Lehmann wrote:
> > > > *your* automake-fu that doesn't respect the "prefix" env
> > variable,
> > > > which is
> > >
>
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 04:23:32PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit
wrote:
> Huh ? if you want rxvt-unicode when ssh-ing to systems that haven't it
> installed, yes it's better to make the terminfo entry be included in
> ncurses which is pervasive (unlike urxvt). It has nothing to do with
> Debian...
Exce
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 04:23:32PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 15:59:38 +0100
> Marc Lehmann wrote:
> > > *your* automake-fu that doesn't respect the "prefix" env
> variable,
> > > which is
> >
> > We don't use any automake-fu anywhere, and the far majority of
> > software
On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 15:59:38 +0100
Marc Lehmann wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 03:43:04PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit
> wrote:
> > If you want it to be built in the debian package properly, you have
> > to
>
> No, this is against policy apparently - you need to update ncurses in
> debian, afaik. A
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 03:43:04PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit
wrote:
> If you want it to be built in the debian package properly, you have to
No, this is against policy apparently - you need to update ncurses in
debian, afaik. At least that's the reason why debian usually has outdated
terminfo entri
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 03:43:04PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 09, 2010 at 12:38:26PM -0500, Decklin Foster wrote:
> > Excerpts from Marc Lehmann's message of Thu Dec 09 06:30:03 -0500 2010:
> > > The original urxvt uses "rxvt-unicode" and "rxvt-unicode-256color"
> > > TERM values,
On Thu, Dec 09, 2010 at 12:38:26PM -0500, Decklin Foster wrote:
> Excerpts from Marc Lehmann's message of Thu Dec 09 06:30:03 -0500 2010:
> > The original urxvt uses "rxvt-unicode" and "rxvt-unicode-256color"
> > TERM values, respectively, which are the correct values, and portable.
>
> By "respec
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 03:26:19PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit
wrote:
> Marc is right in the sense if urxvt ships a terminfo entry, it should be
> installed (though he's a total asshole about the whole issue), and I
> just explained how to achieve "portability" on other distros.
I know it's just me,
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 10:38:46AM +0100, Emanuele Giaquinta
wrote:
> apply that patch without asking us about it? The only correct approach
> is to contact upstream in these cases, because a package maintainer
> usually lacks the required knowledge to decide.
Or to apply the patch, if it's urge
On Thu, Dec 09, 2010 at 06:24:10PM -0500, micah anderson wrote:
> On Thu, 9 Dec 2010 22:11:32 +0100, Marc Lehmann wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 09, 2010 at 11:23:25AM -0500, micah anderson
> > wrote:
> > > Are you sure about "rxvt-unicode-256color" being portable? This is what
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> > >
On Thu, Dec 09, 2010 at 06:24:10PM -0500, micah anderson
wrote:
> > Lenny is, of course, antique - it predates the 256 color support in urxvt,
> > and obviously cannot have that terminfo file.
>
> It may be antique, but it is still Debian Stable, and I regularly login
> to several hundred produc
On Thu, Dec 09, 2010 at 12:38:26PM -0500, Decklin Foster wrote:
> > (*) debian has a long tradition of non-communication with upstream
>
> OK, I think I must be frank here. I'm not going to randomly send "stupid"
> questions to an upstream that without fail has been abusive to every
> rxvt-unicode
Hi, can you please revert back TERM to rxvt/rxvt-unicode in default
package(s) ?
It does not work well with Debian [Lenny, Squeeze] and FreeBSD [8.1] I
checked so far..
TIA, Z.
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On Thu, 9 Dec 2010 22:11:32 +0100, Marc Lehmann wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 09, 2010 at 11:23:25AM -0500, micah anderson
> wrote:
> > Are you sure about "rxvt-unicode-256color" being portable? This is what
>
> Yes.
>
> > I get when I connect to a lenny system and set that TERM value:
>
> Lenny is, o
On Thu, Dec 09, 2010 at 11:23:25AM -0500, micah anderson
wrote:
> Are you sure about "rxvt-unicode-256color" being portable? This is what
Yes.
> I get when I connect to a lenny system and set that TERM value:
Lenny is, of course, antique - it predates the 256 color support in urxvt,
and obviou
Excerpts from Marc Lehmann's message of Thu Dec 09 06:30:03 -0500 2010:
> The original urxvt uses "rxvt-unicode" and "rxvt-unicode-256color"
> TERM values, respectively, which are the correct values, and portable.
By "respectively", what are you referring to?
> as added "benefit" debian wouldn't
On Thu, 9 Dec 2010 12:30:03 +0100, Marc Lehmann wrote:
> Please note that this "fuck up" is in the debian version only, and
> rxvt-256color is rather buggy to start with, and definitely not the
> correct terminfo file for urxvt. The original urxvt uses "rxvt-unicode" and
> "rxvt-unicode-256color"
Please note that this "fuck up" is in the debian version only, and
rxvt-256color is rather buggy to start with, and definitely not the
correct terminfo file for urxvt. The original urxvt uses "rxvt-unicode" and
"rxvt-unicode-256color" TERM values, respectively, which are the correct
values, and por
Package: rxvt-unicode
Version: 9.09-2
Severity: important
Since the last upload, rxvt-unicode is totally fucked up for vim.
And this is clearly because it still advertises itself as rxvt-unicode
which sets colors to 88 in the terminfo database.
I'm pretty sure this breaks any other console appli
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