Bug#607839: Question about GNOME Trademark and GNOME project packages in Debian

2011-11-16 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Steve Langasek dixit: DFSG #8 is not an issue. DFSG #4 allows authors to require changed versions of their software to be distributed under a different name. If the upstream makes special allowances for Debian to use the name for modified versions, this doesn't fail the DFSG, because everyone

Bug#607839: Question about GNOME Trademark and GNOME project packages in Debian

2011-07-27 Thread Shaun McCance
On Fri, 2011-07-15 at 11:07 -0400, Mike O'Connor wrote: When we are contacted by a owner of a trademark on which we believe we are infringing, the safest thing for us to do legally is to cease all use of the mark. The easiest thing for us to do is to ignore their claim. We'll need to figure

Bug#607839: Question about GNOME Trademark and GNOME project packages in Debian

2011-07-17 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 11:26:02PM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: We feel that it is infeasible for Debian to be in complete compliance with the current GNOME trademark license. In our strict reading of this license, the only way to be in full compliance would require us to perform actions such

Bug#607839: Question about GNOME Trademark and GNOME project packages in Debian

2011-07-15 Thread MJ Ray
Joerg Jaspert wrote: We feel that it is infeasible for Debian to be in complete compliance with the current GNOME trademark license. [...] OK, sorry if this is an old chestnut, but do we actually need a licence in general? Is most of the use in Debian more than honest description of the source

Bug#607839: Question about GNOME Trademark and GNOME project packages in Debian

2011-07-15 Thread Mike O'Connor
On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 13:01:13 +0100 (BST), MJ Ray m...@phonecoop.coop wrote: Joerg Jaspert wrote: We feel that it is infeasible for Debian to be in complete compliance with the current GNOME trademark license. [...] OK, sorry if this is an old chestnut, but do we actually need a licence in

Bug#607839: Question about GNOME Trademark and GNOME project packages in Debian

2011-07-15 Thread Arthur Machlas
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Mike O'Connor s...@debian.org wrote: On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 13:01:13 +0100 (BST), MJ Ray m...@phonecoop.coop wrote: Joerg Jaspert wrote: Is there a tension?  Isn't it obvious that many Free Software related marks are not themselves free software? The way you

Bug#607839: Question about GNOME Trademark and GNOME project packages in Debian

2011-07-15 Thread Russ Allbery
Mike O'Connor s...@debian.org writes: On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 13:01:13 +0100 (BST), MJ Ray m...@phonecoop.coop wrote: OK, sorry if this is an old chestnut, but do we actually need a licence in general? Is most of the use in Debian more than honest description of the source of the software? As

Bug#607839: Question about GNOME Trademark and GNOME project packages in Debian

2011-07-14 Thread Joerg Jaspert
Hello world, [ We got asked how the Debian project (and especially us as delegates handling the archive) has handled trademarks in the past, and our opinion on how restrictive Trademark licenses can (or not) lead to DFSG freeness issues. This topic cooked up with the special example of the