Bug#612610: lintian: should suggest switching to 3.0 (quilt)

2013-04-25 Thread Russ Allbery
Ron writes: > Since there were strong arguments against this in the past, from more > than one person, and since nothing has changed since, including members > of the release team from time to time still voicing their > dissatisfaction with the 3.0 quilt format and intent to continue not > using

Bug#612610: lintian: should suggest switching to 3.0 (quilt)

2013-04-25 Thread Ron
On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 08:51:26 +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > The devil is in your quotes here :) The point here, I think, is that in > a project as large as Debian you will always find "somebody" that > disagrees with a specific "new" practice. Unfortunately that practice > might be beneficial f

Bug#612610: lintian: should suggest switching to 3.0 (quilt)

2013-04-21 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 10:47:03PM +0200, Niels Thykier wrote: > > Generally speaking, Debian needs a way to promote best practices, > > because there *are* practices that are better than others and uniforming > > on them is a way to both improve the quality of our maintenance work and > > reduce b

Bug#612610: lintian: should suggest switching to 3.0 (quilt)

2013-04-11 Thread Niels Thykier
On 2013-04-09 09:23, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > Thanks for this interesting discussion. I think it's an important one to > have, too. > Hi, > Generally speaking, Debian needs a way to promote best practices, > because there *are* practices that are better than others and uniforming > on them is

Bug#612610: lintian: should suggest switching to 3.0 (quilt)

2013-04-09 Thread Russ Allbery
Stefano Zacchiroli writes: > Personally, I'd love if the lintian maintainers could assume their > responsibility as promoting the adoption of best-practices. After all, > it is you people who are the first steward of package quality, thanks to > lintian. As a developer I'd have no problem whatsoe

Bug#612610: lintian: should suggest switching to 3.0 (quilt)

2013-04-09 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
Thanks for this interesting discussion. I think it's an important one to have, too. Generally speaking, Debian needs a way to promote best practices, because there *are* practices that are better than others and uniforming on them is a way to both improve the quality of our maintenance work and re

Bug#612610: lintian: should suggest switching to 3.0 (quilt)

2013-04-02 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Niels Thykier , 2013-03-29, 01:28: With #359059 being fixed in 2.5.12, perhaps it is worth for us to consider if Lintian could be used for more than "mere" flaw reporting. Like adding a new "kind" of tag that is not a "flaw" but simply a "property" of the package[2]. [...] [2] Originally

Bug#612610: lintian: should suggest switching to 3.0 (quilt)

2013-03-29 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 29/03/13 at 01:28 +0100, Niels Thykier wrote: > Hi, > > I am not sure we can in general promote the use of 3.0 (quilt) over 1.0 > via Lintian at the moment[1]. > > Though I noticed that people are writing their own tools to extract > things like "what source format is used" or "what build syst

Bug#612610: lintian: should suggest switching to 3.0 (quilt)

2013-03-28 Thread Niels Thykier
Hi, I am not sure we can in general promote the use of 3.0 (quilt) over 1.0 via Lintian at the moment[1]. Though I noticed that people are writing their own tools to extract things like "what source format is used" or "what build systems are used". With #359059 being fixed in 2.5.12, perhaps it

Bug#612610: lintian: should suggest switching to 3.0 (quilt)

2011-02-09 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
Package: lintian Version: 2.4.3 Severity: normal (this request sounds obvious, but I couldn't find a bug about it) Hi, According to http://upsilon.cc/~zack/stuff/dpkg-v3/, there is now basically one third of the packages using the 3.0 (quilt) format. It would be great if lintian could suggest a