Bug#642914: debian-policy: 10.8 Log files : logrotate compression should result from good judgment

2011-09-27 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 07:26:12PM +0200, Jérôme Bouat wrote: Hello Raphael, you have been filing such bugs in Ubuntu and I closed at least one you filed against dpkg. Ubuntu isn't exactly the same than Debian. Otherwise it would be called Debian ;) In many areas there is no reason for

Bug#642914: debian-policy: 10.8 Log files : logrotate compression should result from good judgment

2011-09-26 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hello Jérôme, you have been filing such bugs in Ubuntu and I closed at least one you filed against dpkg. I hope that if this debian-policy request gets turned off, you will stop filing such wishlist bugs everywhere. On Sun, 25 Sep 2011, Jérôme wrote: Most of the time I think that log files

Bug#642914: debian-policy: 10.8 Log files : logrotate compression should result from good judgment

2011-09-26 Thread Russ Allbery
Jérôme jerome.bo...@wanadoo.fr writes: Most of the time I think that log files compression lowers the system performance on desktop computers which have now enough disk space for storing old logs. I really doubt there is any noticable effect on a desktop system where the size of the logs is

Bug#642914: debian-policy: 10.8 Log files : logrotate compression should result from good judgment

2011-09-26 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Mon, 26 Sep 2011, Raphael Hertzog wrote: Thinking is not enough, we would like to see facts. I just wanted to add that changing this means changing the names of many compressed log files and potentially breaking some (custom) scripts which are relying on the current configuration. So I think

Bug#642914: debian-policy: 10.8 Log files : logrotate compression should result from good judgment

2011-09-26 Thread Jérôme Bouat
Hello Raphael, you have been filing such bugs in Ubuntu and I closed at least one you filed against dpkg. Ubuntu isn't exactly the same than Debian. Otherwise it would be called Debian ;) I hope that if this debian-policy request gets turned off, you will stop filing such wishlist bugs

Bug#642914: debian-policy: 10.8 Log files : logrotate compression should result from good judgment

2011-09-26 Thread Jérôme Bouat
available). When it does make a difference is when some process goes insane and logs tons of similar lines, at which point the compression allows one to retain such logs without much impact, which I think is valuable. Maybe the logging facility should filter the duplicate message with

Bug#642914: debian-policy: 10.8 Log files : logrotate compression should result from good judgment

2011-09-26 Thread Russ Allbery
Jérôme Bouat jerome.bo...@wanadoo.fr writes: rotated log files be compressed; there certainly isn't in 10.8. There is an example of a logrotate configuration file that happens to compress the log files, but that's an example, not a normative requirement. It seems that many package

Bug#642914: debian-policy: 10.8 Log files : logrotate compression should result from good judgment

2011-09-26 Thread Bill Allombert
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 07:26:12PM +0200, Jérôme Bouat wrote: I first filed a bug into rsyslog package and someone advised me to report this question to the Debian policy team : that is the reason of this current bug report. I don't want to enforce a point of view but just trigger a

Bug#642914: debian-policy: 10.8 Log files : logrotate compression should result from good judgment

2011-09-25 Thread Jérôme
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.9.1.0 Severity: normal Most of the time I think that log files compression lowers the system performance on desktop computers which have now enough disk space for storing old logs. I think that files compression is a good tradeoff only in case the compressed