On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 02:32:58PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
If we want to improve fsck time then the best thing to do would be
to consider a different default value for the -i option of mke2fs.
This advice is not applicable for ext4, since it will not read unused
portions of the
Russell Coker wrote:
On Thu, 22 Dec 2011, Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de wrote:
PS: I myself like a seperate /usr but I wouldn't use it for my parents.
I do want a seperate /var and /home for them though so they can't DOS
the system by filling up their home.
How would filling up
Russell Coker russ...@coker.com.au writes:
On Thu, 22 Dec 2011, Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de wrote:
PS: I myself like a seperate /usr but I wouldn't use it for my parents.
I do want a seperate /var and /home for them though so they can't DOS
the system by filling up their home.
Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org writes:
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 07:32:35PM +0100, Michael Biebl wrote:
On 16.12.2011 18:38, Joey Hess wrote:
Christian PERRIER wrote:
I'm inclined to follow this advice and would indeed propose that the
atomic partman-auto recipe is kept, however without a
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes:
Le samedi 17 décembre 2011 à 17:42 +0800, Thomas Goirand a écrit :
I do recommend a separate /usr to anyone. It's *not* safe to say that,
and I know many people that agree with me. To me, it has, and still is,
the best choice. You have no rights to
On Thu, 22 Dec 2011, Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de wrote:
PS: I myself like a seperate /usr but I wouldn't use it for my parents.
I do want a seperate /var and /home for them though so they can't DOS
the system by filling up their home.
How would filling up /home DOS the system?
The
Russell Coker russ...@coker.com.au writes:
On Sun, 18 Dec 2011, Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org wrote:
Doing this has many advantage. Like, if your laptop has to unexpectedly
reboot (like when you inadvertently removed power cord when batteries
were not plugged, which happens often in
On Thu, 22 Dec 2011, Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de wrote:
Also / and /usr can be read-only and definetly should be on a systems
likely to have power outages like laptops. And with a read-only
partition you have neither fsck nor journal replay.
You don't have a fsck if the time/count
On 12/17/2011 05:12 AM, Josh Triplett wrote:
And while we might
debate the usefulness of a separate /usr back and forth, I think I can
safely say that it won't become a *recommended* configuration anytime
soon. :)
I do recommend a separate /usr to anyone. It's *not* safe to say that,
and I
Le samedi 17 décembre 2011 à 17:42 +0800, Thomas Goirand a écrit :
I do recommend a separate /usr to anyone. It's *not* safe to say that,
and I know many people that agree with me. To me, it has, and still is,
the best choice. You have no rights to arbitrary decide what should
be/was/will be
On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 07:42, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote:
On 12/17/2011 05:12 AM, Josh Triplett wrote:
And while we might
debate the usefulness of a separate /usr back and forth, I think I can
safely say that it won't become a *recommended* configuration anytime
soon. :)
I
On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 05:42:59PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
On 12/17/2011 05:12 AM, Josh Triplett wrote:
And while we might
debate the usefulness of a separate /usr back and forth, I think I can
safely say that it won't become a *recommended* configuration anytime
soon. :)
I do
On Sun, 18 Dec 2011, Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org wrote:
Doing this has many advantage. Like, if your laptop has to unexpectedly
reboot (like when you inadvertently removed power cord when batteries
were not plugged, which happens often in real life), having separated
partitions
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 07:34:16AM +0100, Christian PERRIER wrote:
(reducing CC as I guess that most are subscribed to -devel)
Quoting Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org):
I don't think these things are alike. Separating /var and /tmp from the
rest of the file systems is done because those
On 12/16/2011 04:46 AM, Josh Triplett wrote:
In all of the recent discussions about separate /usr partitions, most
people seem to acknowledge them as unusual, special-purpose
configurations, even those who use them.
I do *not* agree that there's such a consensus.
On 12/16/2011 04:46 AM, Josh
Christian PERRIER wrote:
I'm inclined to follow this advice and would indeed propose that the
atomic partman-auto recipe is kept, however without a separate /usr
partition (discussions on -devel and the current practice convinced me
that a separate /usr is seomthing that probably belongs to
On 16.12.2011 18:38, Joey Hess wrote:
Christian PERRIER wrote:
I'm inclined to follow this advice and would indeed propose that the
atomic partman-auto recipe is kept, however without a separate /usr
partition (discussions on -devel and the current practice convinced me
that a separate /usr
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 07:32:35PM +0100, Michael Biebl wrote:
On 16.12.2011 18:38, Joey Hess wrote:
Christian PERRIER wrote:
I'm inclined to follow this advice and would indeed propose that the
atomic partman-auto recipe is kept, however without a separate /usr
partition (discussions on
Quoting Michael Biebl (bi...@debian.org):
I don't think that d-i should be on the leading edge of this discussion.
Once Debian has made up its mind, d-i can be updated to follow the
consensus.
To me it looks like there is broad consensus that a separate /usr
partition should be
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 09:11:22PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
On 12/16/2011 04:46 AM, Josh Triplett wrote:
In all of the recent discussions about separate /usr partitions, most
people seem to acknowledge them as unusual, special-purpose
configurations, even those who use them.
I do
Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org writes:
On 16.12.2011 18:38, Joey Hess wrote:
Christian PERRIER wrote:
I'm inclined to follow this advice and would indeed propose that the
atomic partman-auto recipe is kept, however without a separate /usr
partition (discussions on -devel and the current
Steve Langasek wrote:
There isn't. There's just a broad consensus among those who are talking
about changing things.
Yes.
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Josh Triplett wrote:
Exactly my point, then. The guided partitioning option I mentioned
makes /home, /usr, /var, and /tmp all separate partitions. You just
said you don't want a separate /home, and you do want a separate /var.
Thus, you have custom requirements that don't fit the guided
On Dec 16, Josh Triplett j...@joshtriplett.org wrote:
A configuration with everything in one partition needs no extra
configuration; anyone who wants such a configuration will like what the
guided partitioner comes up with. A configuration with five separate
partitions seems almost
Steve Langasek wrote:
Michael Biebl wrote:
To me it looks like there is broad consensus that a separate /usr
partition should be considered deprecated and this option removed from
the installer.
There isn't. There's just a broad consensus among those who are talking
about changing
Hi Josh,
Seems you're as much passionate about this topic as I am! :)
At this point, I don't remotely hope to convince you, but perhaps you
will find some of my points valid.
On 12/17/2011 02:46 AM, Josh Triplett wrote:
Hence why I said most people (because I didn't want to imply
unanimity),
On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 04:13:50AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
Seems you're as much passionate about this topic as I am! :)
At this point, I don't remotely hope to convince you, but perhaps you
will find some of my points valid.
Likewise. :)
On 12/17/2011 02:46 AM, Josh Triplett wrote:
Package: partman-auto
Severity: normal
In all of the recent discussions about separate /usr partitions, most
people seem to acknowledge them as unusual, special-purpose
configurations, even those who use them. To the extent they have a use
at all, they primarily have a use for people who have
On Dec 15, Josh Triplett j...@joshtriplett.org wrote:
Anyone desiring a setup with more separate partitions should have no
trouble using the manual partitioner to create whatever custom
configuration they desire.
I agree.
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Josh Triplett j...@joshtriplett.org writes:
In all of the recent discussions about separate /usr partitions, most
people seem to acknowledge them as unusual, special-purpose
configurations, even those who use them. To the extent they have a use
at all, they primarily have a use for people
(reducing CC as I guess that most are subscribed to -devel)
Quoting Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org):
I don't think these things are alike. Separating /var and /tmp from the
rest of the file systems is done because those partitions contain varying
amounts of data and often fill if something
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