Bug#682010: #682010 re celt and mumble referred to the TC

2012-07-19 Thread Ron
Hi Ian, Being cc'd on this would have been nice, so apologies in advance if I messed up any quoting by pasting stuff in. On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 12:26:01AM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: Note: this evening we think we have found a security expert who is willing to audit the CELT 0.7.1 codec

Bug#682010: #682010 re celt and mumble referred to the TC

2012-07-19 Thread Ian Jackson
Ron writes (Re: #682010 re celt and mumble referred to the TC): You understand this is a fairly arbitrary 'daily' snapshot of an experimental research codec, from ~2.5 years ago, that nobody has looked at since that day, that nobody has committed to maintaining, that its author has explicitly

Bug#682010: #682010 re celt and mumble referred to the TC

2012-07-19 Thread Chris Knadle
On Thursday, July 19, 2012 05:38:47, Ron wrote: ... - This is a serious problem for mumble at least and is arguably RC. Yes, mumble has a serious problem, that is arguably RC. In fact it has several of them aside from this corner that people have painted themselves into with it ... […]

Bug#682010: #682010 re celt and mumble referred to the TC

2012-07-19 Thread Ian Jackson
Chris Knadle writes (Bug#682010: #682010 re celt and mumble referred to the TC): There was no indication of any kind that the discussion was going to continue, otherwise I would have delayed the summary to the TC. I think you were right to escalate this to the TC when you did. The longer we

Bug#682010: #682010 re celt and mumble referred to the TC

2012-07-19 Thread Ron
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 12:55:59PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: Ron writes (Re: #682010 re celt and mumble referred to the TC): You understand this is a fairly arbitrary 'daily' snapshot of an experimental research codec, from ~2.5 years ago, that nobody has looked at since that day, that

Bug#682010: #682010 re celt and mumble referred to the TC

2012-07-19 Thread Ian Jackson
Ron writes (Bug#682010: #682010 re celt and mumble referred to the TC): I don't want to niggle over words here, but chosen would imply that somebody actually exercised some conscious judgement in that decision. Which there doesn't really seem to be a whole lot of evidence for. Nobody from

Bug#682010: #682010 re celt and mumble referred to the TC

2012-07-19 Thread Ron
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 07:39:37PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: Ron writes (Bug#682010: #682010 re celt and mumble referred to the TC): I don't want to niggle over words here, but chosen would imply that somebody actually exercised some conscious judgement in that decision. Which