Am 13.09.2013 05:56, schrieb Marco d'Itri:
On Sep 12, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org wrote:
We could also also show a debconf warning.
udev already has the debconf machinery setup so maybe we just need to
extend those templates.
We definitely need to abort new installs and upgrades exactly
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Package: udev
Version: 204-3
Severity: critical
The new version of udev (or consolekit, the both cannot be down- or
upgraded independently) breaks fuse (at least with encfs). It claims that
the special file is not found and/or the module is not
Am 12.09.2013 15:23, schrieb Michael Biebl:
Am 12.09.2013 15:17, schrieb Klaus Ethgen:
Package: udev
Version: 204-3
Severity: critical
The new version of udev (or consolekit, the both cannot be down- or
upgraded independently) breaks fuse (at least with encfs). It claims that
the special
Am 12.09.2013 15:17, schrieb Klaus Ethgen:
Package: udev
Version: 204-3
Severity: critical
The new version of udev (or consolekit, the both cannot be down- or
upgraded independently) breaks fuse (at least with encfs). It claims that
the special file is not found and/or the module is not
Am 12.09.2013 15:28, schrieb Michael Biebl:
Am 12.09.2013 15:23, schrieb Michael Biebl:
Am 12.09.2013 15:17, schrieb Klaus Ethgen:
Package: udev
Version: 204-3
Severity: critical
The new version of udev (or consolekit, the both cannot be down- or
upgraded independently) breaks fuse (at
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Hi,
Am Do den 12. Sep 2013 um 14:23 schrieb Michael Biebl:
Am 12.09.2013 15:17, schrieb Klaus Ethgen:
Package: udev
Version: 204-3
Severity: critical
The new version of udev (or consolekit, the both cannot be down- or
upgraded
Am 12.09.2013 15:46, schrieb Klaus Ethgen:
Hi,
Am Do den 12. Sep 2013 um 14:23 schrieb Michael Biebl:
Am 12.09.2013 15:17, schrieb Klaus Ethgen:
Package: udev
Version: 204-3
Severity: critical
The new version of udev (or consolekit, the both cannot be down- or
upgraded independently)
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Am Do den 12. Sep 2013 um 14:34 schrieb Michael Biebl:
module is loaded). In logs there are no further information.
[...]
I mean exact error messages here. What exactly you do, how and when.
What commands are executed.
As I wrote, there is
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Am Do den 12. Sep 2013 um 14:56 schrieb Michael Biebl:
And this command just fails silently?
Just with the written error message.
Can you strace the command and attach the output? Nothing in dmesg?
Nothing in dmesg.
I am not sure that a strace
Am 12.09.2013 16:01, schrieb Klaus Ethgen:
Am Do den 12. Sep 2013 um 14:34 schrieb Michael Biebl:
module is loaded). In logs there are no further information.
[...]
I mean exact error messages here. What exactly you do, how and when.
What commands are executed.
As I wrote, there is no. But
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Am Do den 12. Sep 2013 um 15:08 schrieb Michael Biebl:
As I wrote, there is no. But the error message that was written by fuse
was:
fuse failed. Common problems:
- fuse kernel module not installed (modprobe fuse)
- invalid
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Am Do den 12. Sep 2013 um 15:17 schrieb Michael Biebl:
Kernel: Linux 3.9.4 (SMP w/8 CPU cores; PREEMPT)
Is that a selfcompiled kernel
Yes.
with builtin fuse?
No.
~ lsmod G fuse
fuse 67025 5
Is the problem
Am 12.09.2013 15:17, schrieb Klaus Ethgen:
Package: udev
Version: 204-3
Severity: critical
The new version of udev (or consolekit, the both cannot be down- or
upgraded independently) breaks fuse (at least with encfs). It claims that
the special file is not found and/or the module is not
Am 12.09.2013 16:23, schrieb Klaus Ethgen:
Am Do den 12. Sep 2013 um 15:17 schrieb Michael Biebl:
Kernel: Linux 3.9.4 (SMP w/8 CPU cores; PREEMPT)
Is that a selfcompiled kernel
Yes.
with builtin fuse?
No.
~ lsmod G fuse
fuse 67025 5
Is the problem
Am 12.09.2013 16:41, schrieb Michael Biebl:
That is strange. Can you explicitly rmmod fuse and modprobe it again and
check if that changes anything?
When doing that, please run
udevadm monitor --property --kernel --udev
and attach the log.
/dev/fuse should be created by the kernel, so either
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Am Do den 12. Sep 2013 um 15:41 schrieb Michael Biebl:
But only before the upgrade. After the upgrade there was never a
/dev/fuse. I explicitly checked this.
That is strange. Can you explicitly rmmod fuse and modprobe it again and
check
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Am Do den 12. Sep 2013 um 15:43 schrieb Michael Biebl:
That is strange. Can you explicitly rmmod fuse and modprobe it again and
check if that changes anything?
When doing that, please run
udevadm monitor --property --kernel --udev
and
Am 12.09.2013 16:23, schrieb Klaus Ethgen:
Am Do den 12. Sep 2013 um 15:17 schrieb Michael Biebl:
Kernel: Linux 3.9.4 (SMP w/8 CPU cores; PREEMPT)
Is that a selfcompiled kernel
Yes.
Can you send me the output of
# grep DEVTMPFS /boot/config-$(uname -r)
(or whatever your kernel config is
retitle 722580 udev no longer creates device nodes, relies on DEVTMPFS
thanks
Am 12.09.2013 17:22, schrieb Klaus Ethgen:
Am Do den 12. Sep 2013 um 15:43 schrieb Michael Biebl:
That is strange. Can you explicitly rmmod fuse and modprobe it again and
check if that changes anything?
When doing
Am 12.09.2013 17:40, schrieb Michael Biebl:
You'll need to enable that option and also make sure devtmpfs is
mounted. Usuallly that is done by the initramfs. In your case, you'll
also want to enable CONFIG_DEVTMPFS_MOUNT.
Julien suggested a preinst check like
'if ! grep -q devtmpfs
Am 12.09.2013 17:40, schrieb Michael Biebl:
And we found the culprit :-)
Newer versions of udev no longer create any device nodes, that is done
by the kernel now via devtmpfs [1].
Seems I missed the reference:
[1] http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/tree/README#n40
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On Sep 12, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org wrote:
We could also also show a debconf warning.
udev already has the debconf machinery setup so maybe we just need to
extend those templates.
We definitely need to abort new installs and upgrades exactly as we do
when other mandatory kernel features
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