Bug#729203: Packaging for FFmpeg avoiding conflicts with libav

2014-02-27 Thread Michael Niedermayer
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 04:49:09PM +0100, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote: On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 02:30:47AM +0100, Michael Niedermayer wrote: Yes, it's the latter: I didn't badmouth ffmpeg in any way: it was said that libav fixed less Google fuzzer samples than libav; for which I added my

Bug#729203: Packaging for FFmpeg avoiding conflicts with libav

2014-02-26 Thread Andreas Cadhalpun
Hi Clint, On 26.02.2014 02:39, Clint Adams wrote: On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 11:30:25PM +0100, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote: Ideally the security team should now evaluate which of the two are better from a security point of view and based on this decide, which one they would prefer to see in jessie.

Bug#729203: Packaging for FFmpeg avoiding conflicts with libav

2014-02-26 Thread Andreas Cadhalpun
Hi Michael, On 26.02.2014 02:44, Michael Gilbert wrote: On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 8:39 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote: Id like to volunteer to help with any future security issues in FFmpeg packages in debian. The best place to start is testing and (more preferably) patches for the present

Bug#729203: Packaging for FFmpeg avoiding conflicts with libav

2014-02-26 Thread Antoine Beaupré
On 2014-02-26 04:56:02, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote: Hi Clint, On 26.02.2014 02:39, Clint Adams wrote: On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 11:30:25PM +0100, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote: Ideally the security team should now evaluate which of the two are better from a security point of view and based on this

Bug#729203: Packaging for FFmpeg avoiding conflicts with libav

2014-02-26 Thread Moritz Mühlenhoff
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 02:30:47AM +0100, Michael Niedermayer wrote: Yes, it's the latter: I didn't badmouth ffmpeg in any way: it was said that libav fixed less Google fuzzer samples than libav; for which I added my observation that when I looked at several CVE assignments for ffmpeg

Bug#729203: Packaging for FFmpeg avoiding conflicts with libav

2014-02-26 Thread Moritz Mühlenhoff
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 11:30:25PM +0100, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote: But then the security team represented by Moritz stated that they would not support both FFmpeg and libav, so they are the only ones affected negatively by FFmpeg in stable. Thus I think it doesn't make much sense to discuss

Bug#729203: Packaging for FFmpeg avoiding conflicts with libav

2014-02-26 Thread Andreas Cadhalpun
Hi Antoine, On 26.02.2014 14:15, Antoine Beaupré wrote: On 2014-02-26 04:56:02, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote: At the moment I think Antoine is still reviewing my packaging before sponsoring an upload. This was a misunderstanding - I thought more work would be done on the package first. :) I

Bug#729203: Packaging for FFmpeg avoiding conflicts with libav

2014-02-26 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 01:39:23AM +, Clint Adams wrote: Ideally someone should upload ffmpeg to unstable instead of endlessly discussing it. I don't see anyone preventing this yet. Seconded. I felt that Moritz's last message (when it was the last message) was fine - let's get it into

Bug#729203: Packaging for FFmpeg avoiding conflicts with libav

2014-02-25 Thread Moritz Mühlenhoff
On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 11:36:36PM +0100, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote: Hi Moritz, On 23.02.2014 22:56, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote: I don't have the time nor the interest to discuss this at length, so EOD from my side. since you started this discussion by effectively preventing FFmpeg from being

Bug#729203: Packaging for FFmpeg avoiding conflicts with libav

2014-02-25 Thread Andreas Cadhalpun
Hi Moritz, On 25.02.2014 17:57, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote: On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 11:36:36PM +0100, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote: Hi Moritz, On 23.02.2014 22:56, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote: I don't have the time nor the interest to discuss this at length, so EOD from my side. since you started this

Bug#729203: Packaging for FFmpeg avoiding conflicts with libav

2014-02-25 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 06:23:20PM +0100, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote: No, it means I don't have the time, nor nerve to discuss this. We're after all busy to keep Debian secure and sick of maintainers who only focus on their pet package and neglegt the overall maintainability of the Debian

Bug#729203: Packaging for FFmpeg avoiding conflicts with libav

2014-02-25 Thread Andreas Cadhalpun
On 25.02.2014 22:18, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 06:23:20PM +0100, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote: No, it means I don't have the time, nor nerve to discuss this. We're after all busy to keep Debian secure and sick of maintainers who only focus on their pet package and neglegt the

Bug#729203: Packaging for FFmpeg avoiding conflicts with libav

2014-02-25 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 11:30:25PM +0100, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote: On 25.02.2014 22:18, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 06:23:20PM +0100, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote: No, it means I don't have the time, nor nerve to discuss this. We're after all busy to keep Debian secure and sick

Bug#729203: Packaging for FFmpeg avoiding conflicts with libav

2014-02-25 Thread Michael Niedermayer
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 11:33:33PM +0100, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 11:30:25PM +0100, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote: On 25.02.2014 22:18, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 06:23:20PM +0100, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote: No, it means I don't have the time, nor

Bug#729203: Packaging for FFmpeg avoiding conflicts with libav

2014-02-25 Thread Michael Niedermayer
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 05:57:02PM +0100, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote: On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 11:36:36PM +0100, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote: Hi Moritz, On 23.02.2014 22:56, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote: I don't have the time nor the interest to discuss this at length, so EOD from my side.

Bug#729203: Packaging for FFmpeg avoiding conflicts with libav

2014-02-25 Thread Clint Adams
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 11:30:25PM +0100, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote: Ideally the security team should now evaluate which of the two are better from a security point of view and based on this decide, which one they would prefer to see in jessie. But if they don't, someone else will have to make

Bug#729203: Packaging for FFmpeg avoiding conflicts with libav

2014-02-25 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 8:39 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote: The security team made it abundantly clear that we will only support either solution. If you go ahead with the ITP we'll file an RC bug against ffmpeg to prevent it's transition to testing. You can then sort out how/whether ffmpeg

Bug#729203: Packaging for FFmpeg avoiding conflicts with libav

2014-02-23 Thread Moritz Mühlenhoff
On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 08:18:20PM +0100, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote: Adrian, do you agree that this is sane? If the security team is not willing to support both, they can ask the TC to decide which one to use, but this does not prevent an upload of FFmpeg. I don't see why security would

Bug#729203: Packaging for FFmpeg avoiding conflicts with libav

2014-02-23 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 10:53:18AM +0100, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote: On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 08:18:20PM +0100, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote: ... But should they decide that it will not be possible to support both packages for security updates, your argumentation would clearly favor ffmpeg over

Bug#729203: Packaging for FFmpeg avoiding conflicts with libav

2014-02-23 Thread Andreas Cadhalpun
[Adding the CCs again, I hope you don't mind.] Hi Timothy, thanks for your remarks and sorry for not responding sooner, I got distracted... On 22.02.2014 20:39, Timothy Gu wrote: On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Andreas Cadhalpun andreas.cadhal...@googlemail.com wrote: Upstream thinks

Bug#729203: Packaging for FFmpeg avoiding conflicts with libav

2014-02-23 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 12:38:17PM +0100, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote: ... On 23.02.2014 11:48, Adrian Bunk wrote: ... E.g. except for the idea of removing this pretty popular package in favour of a dead fork, I don't recall any solution proposed for getting MPlayer compile again in unstable.

Bug#729203: Packaging for FFmpeg avoiding conflicts with libav

2014-02-23 Thread Moritz Mühlenhoff
On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 12:48:34PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 10:53:18AM +0100, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote: On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 08:18:20PM +0100, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote: ... But should they decide that it will not be possible to support both packages for security

Bug#729203: Packaging for FFmpeg avoiding conflicts with libav

2014-02-23 Thread Andreas Cadhalpun
Hi Moritz, On 23.02.2014 22:56, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote: I don't have the time nor the interest to discuss this at length, so EOD from my side. since you started this discussion by effectively preventing FFmpeg from being uploaded, I take it that you ending this discussion now means FFmpeg

Bug#729203: Packaging for FFmpeg avoiding conflicts with libav

2014-02-22 Thread Andreas Cadhalpun
Hi all, I have looked at the packaging provided by Antoine and it seems - no offense intended - a little bit messy. Thus I have started from scratch and packaged FFmpeg 2.1.3 [1] (see attached debian.tar.xz). I have taken care to avoid conflicts with libav as far as possible, but the

Bug#729203: Packaging for FFmpeg avoiding conflicts with libav

2014-02-22 Thread Antoine Beaupré
On 2014-02-22 12:39:20, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote: Hi all, I have looked at the packaging provided by Antoine and it seems - no offense intended - a little bit messy. Hehe, none taken. To my defense, I did that in about an hour, using Marillat's packages... :) Thus I have started from

Bug#729203: Packaging for FFmpeg avoiding conflicts with libav

2014-02-22 Thread Andreas Cadhalpun
Hi Antoine, On 22.02.2014 18:56, Antoine Beaupré wrote: On 2014-02-22 12:39:20, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote: Thus I have started from scratch and packaged FFmpeg 2.1.3 [1] (see attached debian.tar.xz). Awesome! ;) I have taken care to avoid conflicts with libav as far as possible, but the

Bug#729203: Packaging for FFmpeg avoiding conflicts with libav

2014-02-22 Thread Timothy Gu
On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Andreas Cadhalpun andreas.cadhal...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Antoine, On 22.02.2014 18:56, Antoine Beaupr=E9 wrote: On 2014-02-22 12:39:20, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote: The ffmpeg package does not provide qt-faststart to avoid a conflict with libav-tools.

Bug#729203: Packaging for FFmpeg avoiding conflicts with libav

2014-02-22 Thread Raphael Geissert
Hi, [only replying with my lintian maintainer hat here, from the sec. point of view it would take a more lengthy mail] On Saturday 22 February 2014 18:39:20 Andreas Cadhalpun wrote: [...] * E: embedded-library: I don't understand this one: Does it complain about libavfilter embedding